Mike Pence will likely be our 46th President, if only for a day, just so he can pardon Trump. Fixie-fixie. All done. Fuck you, libtards.
yup, got mueller to say the a sitting president can be indicted after he leaves office, trumps gotta be shitting bricks
And yet, it will change no one's mind. Everyone will take from this that which reinforces what they are already inclined to believe, the underlying facts be damned. Trumptards will imbibe what Fox News opionators present. Sad but true.So far I've been very impressed with the Democrats, we now have Mueller in sworn testimony describing how the president committed multiple felonies.
Excellent work by Judiciary so far, this is the most effective questioning I have ever seen.
Where's Pelosi?
LIEU (D-CA): "The reason, again, that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the OLC opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?
MUELLER: That is correct.
And yet, it will change no one's mind. Everyone will take from this that which reinforces what they are already inclined to believe, the underlying facts be damned. Trumptards will imbibe what Fox News opionators present. Sad but true.
None of which removes the fact that you're still a bitch and married to a whore we have to keep in a box because she's so ugly no one wants to fuck her.
But I also don't think that anyone engaged enough to care in any depth, pro or con, will have their minds changed, simply selectively reinforced. As for the rest of our electorate not engaged in any depth, nothing will impact their consciousness enough to make them say, "Whereas everything up to now left me not having any strong opinion whatsoever, NOW I do."I disagree. It won't change the hard core Trumpers' minds but that's not the point. The hard core Trumpsters are only about 30% of the electorate and they can simply be ignored.
Don't be so sure. Support for Nixon impeachment was incredibly low until the hearings. Then everything changed. The hard core won't budge but the independents and those on the fence already... I'll admit this is a lot more damning than I thought it would be.And yet, it will change no one's mind. Everyone will take from this that which reinforces what they are already inclined to believe, the underlying facts be damned. Trumptards will imbibe what Fox News opionators present. Sad but true.
Yeah but at that time both parties in general cared about the truth...this time, not so sure.Don't be so sure. Support for Nixon impeachment was incredibly low until the hearings. Then everything changed. The hard core won't budge but the independents and those on the fence already... I'll admit this is a lot more damning than I thought it would be.
But I also don't think that anyone engaged enough to care in any depth, pro or con, will have their minds changed, simply selectively reinforced. As for the rest of our electorate not engaged in any depth, nothing will impact their consciousness enough to make them say, "Whereas everything up to now left me not having any strong opinion whatsoever, NOW I do."
It needs public support. If the GOP see public support shifting they might, just might, realize what that could mean to them in 2020 and shift as well.Yeah but at that time both parties in general cared about the truth...this time, not so sure.
Anything to do with impeachment needs GOP support...do you see that happening?
And yet, it will change no one's mind. Everyone will take from this that which reinforces what they are already inclined to believe, the underlying facts be damned. Trumptards will imbibe what Fox News opionators present. Sad but true.
We can see how Republicans will be spinning this and it looks to be the same as how Barr spun this.
They are looking to hammer how the investigation started in the first place and they will focus on the reports conclusions instead of the evidence found. The conclusion, I will remind everyone, was highly influenced by department policy to not indict a sitting president.
It's fucking amazing watching the GOP, after weeks of saying Mueller must stick to the report only and nothing else are now flipping their shit because he won't go into detail about things outside the report.
It's almost like they want sound bites so they can say he was evasive.
Video carries more punch than text. It shouldn't, but it does. Having Mueller state aloud, on camera, what is in his report is a big deal.This looks like a bust to me. No minds will be changed and those who have bothered to follow this investigation will only be further entrenched in a position they've already had.
This turned out exactly how I expected it to.
Don't be so sure. Support for Nixon impeachment was incredibly low until the hearings. Then everything changed.
The average person just watches the nightly news where you will see things like this played: