Predictions for mueller's testimony

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Jhhnn

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What the fuck are you talking about? Who said I speak for Democrats?

In claiming to be using "democrats own standards" when no Democrat has said it was a failure. Maybe you'd care to define the "standards" you reference.
 

HomerJS

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Which charges again? The ones without sufficient evidence to bring? No one is refuting the charges that Clinton, members of the DNC, and senior officials of the DOJ colluding with foreign nationals to interfere with the federal presidential election process.
You can just answer one charge, obstruction of justice. Trump ordered Don McGahn to fire Mueller and that is illegal. Doesn't matter that McGahn didn't follow through
 
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You can just answer one charge, obstruction of justice. Trump ordered Don McGahn to fire Mueller and that is illegal. Doesn't matter that McGahn didn't follow through
It's not illegal in and of itself. It's having corrupt intent that would make it illegal.
 

Jhhnn

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Totally ignoring his own boss that he could have made a charging decision. This is why Barr pursued that avenue. He was confident it wouldn't blowback because he knew who Mueller was. Barr is like the typical ebay buyer who scams a seller into giving a partial or full refund without a return; the seller just needed to repeat "return for refund" to call the bluff.

That's bullshit. It's perfectly clear Mueller operated under rules defined by Rosenstein & the OLC from the beginning. Barr didn't change the rules. He just threw in some bullshit. He lied. He wasn't the slightest bit surprised that Mueller didn't make a charging recommendation.
 

brandonbull

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That's bullshit. It's perfectly clear Mueller operated under rules defined by Rosenstein from the beginning. Barr didn't change the rules. He just threw in some bullshit. He lied. He wasn't the slightest bit surprised that Mueller didn't make a charging recommendation.

When you don't have the evidence, a lack of charges or indictments shouldn't be a surprise. I guess, when you are told 24/7 that Trump was guilty of something, it would be.
 
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Dem candidate must play song "lock him up" at campaign rallys nationwide.

The Democrats shouldn't do that. But the American people should by gathering and shouting that. At the White House. At the Capitol. Anywhere that politicians (beyond local level and maybe even there). But especially everywhere Turmp and his lackeys go.
 

HomerJS

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Did we get an answer why Mueller didn't insist on interviewing Trump in person?
 

Maxima1

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That's bullshit. It's perfectly clear Mueller operated under rules defined by Rosenstein from the beginning. Barr didn't change the rules. He just threw in some bullshit. He lied. He wasn't the slightest bit surprised that Mueller didn't make a charging recommendation.

The OLC guideline is just bullshit opinion anyway. Technically, Mueller could have fought it prior to Barr coming on board. Nonetheless, Barr handed Mueller the opportunity to change his past position to fight the deeply corrupt GOP. Yet he didn't? Why? To add insult to injury, he corrected his statement to Lieu despite Barr making a deeply corrupt decision with the corrupt Rosenstein (literally makes no sense for Rosenstein to make a charging decision when he was a witness/conspirator).
 

fskimospy

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When you don't have the evidence, a lack of charges or indictments shouldn't be a surprise. I guess, when you are told 24/7 that Trump was guilty of something, it would be.

How do you feel about Mueller's statement that Trump ordered subordinates to falsify documents in order to obstruct a criminal investigation into himself? Does that sound like a crime to you?
 

zinfamous

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Early on in Russia's meddling their goal was to sew chaos and to divide the country. Therefore the Russia's used tactics that were pro Clinton, pro trump, and pro Bernie, as well as tactics that were anti the above people. The basically used anything to sew discord in America.

However the Russians didn't gain any traction on the Democrat side and focused most of their attention to being pro trump since the right was more gullible to such propaganda.

They did, though. That whole "Bernie Bros" campaign was actually a Russian operation at the beginning.
 
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zinfamous

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Dem candidate must play song "lock him up" at campaign rallys nationwide.

Calling for the imprisonment of your opponent is the type of thing that fascists everywhere have been known for. This is why Trump and all the Trump humpers scream it loudly.
 

ivwshane

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They did, though. That whole "Bernie Bros" campaign was actually a Russian operation at the beginning.

True, I should have clarified; Democrats in general except for Bernie supporters. Which I might add, I considered Bernie supporters to be the trump supporters of the left.
 

vi edit

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Hurd is one of the only Republicans that actually seems like he cares about this country still. I actually like when he does interviews.
 

dank69

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Did we get an answer why Mueller didn't insist on interviewing Trump in person?
I think his original explanation for that was that they already had all the answers they needed and/or didn't expect any new information from such an interview. As such it wouldn't have been worth the legal battle and delay to try to get him to answer in person.
 

ivwshane

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Finally someone is bringing up examples of the trump campaign actually conspiring with Russia. Thank you mr Welch.
 

ivwshane

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These latest questions are getting good. I think they are making some progress here.
 

thilanliyan

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These latest questions are getting good. I think they are making some progress here.
Can't watch right now. Any republicans asking that or is it just the Dems? Until GOP start asking pertinent questions instead of rambling on about conspiracy theories this hearing is not going to be useful.
 

Jhhnn

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The OLC guideline is just bullshit opinion anyway. Technically, Mueller could have fought it prior to Barr coming on board. Nonetheless, Barr handed Mueller the opportunity to change his past position to fight the deeply corrupt GOP. Yet he didn't? Why? To add insult to injury, he corrected his statement to Lieu despite Barr making a deeply corrupt decision with the corrupt Rosenstein (literally makes no sense for Rosenstein to make a charging decision when he was a witness/conspirator).

Barr didn't offer up his charging recommendation bullshit until he had the report in his hand. It's not like he went to Mueller & said "Forget previous constraints & charge Trump if you want."
 
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