Prescott- AT calls it a flop??

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JBT

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It doesn't look bad though it doesn't look good right now. Just wait a bit it will be a nice upgrade though.
 

videoclone

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The race is on..... Lets see how well a 4Ghz P4E does when the Athlon64 4000+ comes out with windowsXP 64bit
 

BDSM

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The A64 3700+ will definitely give the performance crown in gaming back to AMD and cut things a lot closer in other areas. The A 4000+ will give AMD the overall performance crown back. I wonder if AMD can get their 0.13 micron process stable and viable at 2,4 ghz. And if so, when.


Personally I am going to go for a Northwood 2,8 ghz or maybe 3 ghz and overclock moderately. They are good value now.

 

ronnn

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I also will be interested in heat and how they do in a quiet computer. I find that noise has for me become a big factor and the new amd offerings seem to be very cool - so looks like I may have to switch to amd next upgrade. But I am hoping my 2.4c at 3 ghz will last a bit.
 

MDE

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Originally posted by: ronnn
I also will be interested in heat and how they do in a quiet computer. I find that noise has for me become a big factor and the new amd offerings seem to be very cool - so looks like I may have to switch to amd next upgrade. But I am hoping my 2.4c at 3 ghz will last a bit.
Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
HardOCP's review showed their 3.2E (Prescott) running at 72C load and 54C idle on stock cooling.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
Originally posted by: ronnn
I also will be interested in heat and how they do in a quiet computer. I find that noise has for me become a big factor and the new amd offerings seem to be very cool - so looks like I may have to switch to amd next upgrade. But I am hoping my 2.4c at 3 ghz will last a bit.
Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
HardOCP's review showed their 3.2E (Prescott) running at 72C load and 54C idle on stock cooling.

That must be some crappy stock cooling.
 

ronnn

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Sorry, i missed that, thanks for the repost. Must say that sounds hot to me. So I guess that means silent solutions will not be cheap. :beer:
 

SilverBack

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Sid59,
That's the goal, I'm shooting for 4 GHz. I don't think that's to much of a reach for a water cooling setup.
I have my fingers crossed anyway






 

Soulkeeper

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yeah i don't like the performance it gives on a clock for clock basis
kinda weak even with the other enhancements

but i still might get a 2.8 and hope with the best aircooling i could find that i am able to oc it to atleast 3.5ghz
if all else fails atleast i'll have HT which should in itself make it a nice upgrade from my 1.8ghz P4m

i wish intel would just done something to give it the edge on a clock for clock basis like increase the L1 cache a lot more than they did

maybe when these chips hit 1ghz fsb with ddr-2 and high clock speeds of over 3.8ghz then people will love it

 

SilverBack

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Well the way I read Anand's review is that at 4GHz the Prescott is faster than the Northwood at the same clock.
What we need to see are some numbers from 3.6c to 3.6e.
 

adams828

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i'll pass (cause i'm poor ) well that and at the current clockings, nothing special.

interesting though how anandtech says it shows good OC potential, while toms said it was so bad they didn't even try. lame-o
 

Soulkeeper

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yeah i read a few reviews and a few of them said they weren't overclocking very well either
this kinda suprises me but none of them were testing store bought one tho
so i dunno it might make a big difference

intel sent out a few review samples that had a few clock mults unlocked so they could run it at 2.8 3.2 and 3.4
i thought that was cool
 

jpetermann

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Well, maybe we got a fluke chip, but our Prescott ES that we have at Legit is able to do over 4.0 on air with no problem. I would rather see overclocking results from the peeps on the forums anyways. Those are the retail chips that we will all be buying anyways.

PJ
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
What a piece of crap this processor is, I think I'll stick to my Northy at 2.8ghz or look into an Athlon 64.
This hunk of junk doesn't overclock, runs hot as hell, and slow as crap. Maybe if this thing could do a guaranteed 3.6ghz overclock it might be worthwhile but Hardocp and Toms hardware said it was a piece of crap overclocker.


I'm gonna save this post of yours and post it again 6 months from now to remind you how stupid it was today.
 

beatle

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Ok, so how are these things named? Are they P4E chips? I assume the P4EE is still a Northwood w/1MB cache and HT? What happened to the P4D?
 

MadRat

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You probably are even more excited to hear what happened to the P4EEE.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: SilverBack
Well the way I read Anand's review is that at 4GHz the Prescott is faster than the Northwood at the same clock.
What we need to see are some numbers from 3.6c to 3.6e.

There wont be a 3.6C i dont believe, i think the northwood track ends at 3.4ghz. Unless you just mean OCing, in which case the northwoods would have an fsb advantage.
 

lookin4dlz

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Originally posted by: SilverBack
Well the way I read Anand's review is that at 4GHz the Prescott is faster than the Northwood at the same clock.
What we need to see are some numbers from 3.6c to 3.6e.

I read all of the available reviews and I agree. As soon as the Prescott starts passing the current top speed of the Northwood, the Prescott is faster.

I also read that everyone is hitting 4GHz easily on stock settings with their sample chips. So, if you overclock this chip is a winner. However, none of the reviewers wanted to experiement with overclocking their samples - very strange. Most stated more or less that they didn't want to lead anyone on since these were sample chips. So, perhaps it's such an easy overclock that the reviewers didn't want to believe it & want to see if the results hold with retail chips or Intel has a muzzle on them for some reason...

I'll bet that in 2-3 weeks as mainstream overclockers get these chips we'll see 4.2GHz and huge raves over the speed.
 

jpetermann

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We will have our overclocking experience with the Prescott up likely tomorrow at Legit Reviews... Our chip is an ES chip as well, BUT we are looking forward to seeing some retail chips hit to see what the real deal will be...

PJ
 

TAKKLE

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Originally posted by: Shimmishim
yeah i'm sure we'll see some xtreme results soon....

just go check out xtreme tomorrow and see what's out...

i personally am not in favor of the new prescott for the moment...

if i get a prescott, it won't be until they switch over the socket and have pci express...

I totally agree with ya there
 

lookin4dlz

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That will be cool pastorjay! I want to upgrade to a HT chip, but will now wait a couple of weeks to see how well the Prescott's do. I'd hate to buy a Northwood because of a couple of naysayers, then find out the Prescott's a jewel.
 

Engineer

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It must do some programs right....as kokomo has one running SETI@home and his 2.8GHz gets 20 to 22 WU's per day....my 3.2GHz P4 HT gets 17 per day! :Q

BIG difference...at least in that program!

 
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