President and first Lady test positive for Covid-19 (Trumps)

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Wreckem

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Maybe I missed it but now there are leaks saying he had cardiac issues and 103 fever on Friday.

I also love how they are to incompetent to cover their digits trails when releasing the videos and photos. It was so quickly and easily discovered the video was edited and the photos of him working were taken less then 10 minutes apart. They aren’t even good at trying to cover stuff up.
 

VRAMdemon

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These two pictures were taken ten minutes apart, according to their EXIF data.


That just makes it all the stranger that he’s wearing the same suit he wore to the hospital on Friday - I would’ve assumed the pics were taken on Friday in anticipation that his condition might worsen overnight.

Does the presidential suite at Walter Reed not have a change of clothes on hand, or was everyone involved just so completely incompetent that they thought nobody would notice? And especially notice he's signing a blank piece of paper right in the middle of the sheet...And he still isn't wearing a mask ... lol
 
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These two pictures were taken ten minutes apart, according to their EXIF data.


That just makes it all the stranger that he’s wearing the same suit he wore to the hospital on Friday - I would’ve assumed the pics were taken on Friday in anticipation that his condition might worsen overnight.

Does the presidential suite at Walter Reed not have a change of clothes on hand, or was everyone involved just so completely incompetent that they thought nobody would notice? And especially notice he's signing a blank piece of paper right in the middle of the sheet...And he still isn't wearing a mask ... lol
Not to mention anything he signed would be required to be fucking burned since he’s positive for a potent deadly disease. So what good is him signing anything?!
 
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VRAMdemon

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Also ... distracting from really bad stuff with something that also makes him look really bad, and in his mind "weak" seems like a long and risky con with no clear benefit. Remember, COVID is the number one election issue, and Trump polls really badly with it. Now, he has the disease that he downplayed. That looks terrible for him.

The problem for Trump in trying to “milk this” is that he’s psychologically incapable of admitting to himself or to others that he’s ever experienced a single moment of weakness or vulnerability. That’s why he’s (reportedly) furious with Meadows for putting out that his condition was serious. He can’t play this for sympathy without admitting that he’s actually sick. And he can’t really pursue an “I overcame COVID” narrative without admitting that at some point it really was some kind of threat to him. Right now I expect that he’s in a state of confusion and panic and convinced that he must PROJECT STRENGTH at all costs.
 
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this new briefing so far is at least a little more open about his condition. Clearly they realize how horribly yesterday went.
 

Commodus

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Not to mention anything he signed would be required to be fucking burned since he’s positive for a potent deadly disease. So what good is him signing anything?!

You could use a UV light to disinfect the documents, although you'd still have to be careful how you handled it until you were sure it was completely safe to touch. Either that or wait two or three days before handling it.
 
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BonzaiDuck

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Host Chris Rock said "President Trump is in the hospital due to COVID, and my heart goes out to COVID."

I feel bad that I laughed. Or maybe not so much.
I'm not equal these days to showing high character in civilly-worded sentiments like the media-present Dems and the news pundits.

For a few years, I'd contemplated buying a bag of tinsel confetti, a CD of John Phillip Souza marches, some kazoos and noisemakers with party hats, little American flags for the SUV with dowel rod extension to fly them high or just below freeway overpasses -- and an external loudspeaker to play the CD. All with the idea that somebody with nothing to lose would put a neo-Nazi in a book warehouse just for a cover story, and I could celebrate.

Now, I'm caught off-guard. Maybe I'll drive by Party-Time tomorrow and work the visit into my regular errands.

The other despicable thought for which I lack any shame is an idea to start a mass-mailing campaign by citizens all over the country to send "Get sicker and die!" cards to Walter Reed Hospital. If you could totally demoralize that creep, it might put him over the edge and usher his way through a ventilator hook-up to a tidy end.

At this point, the celebration gear would still come in handy if there's a clear, sane outcome to the November election.

Maybe a person could make money from "after-election" bumper stickers: you know -- something like "Trumpers are Losers and F*** You!"

I've long passed the point where I could still nod when someone asks "Can't we all agree to disagree?"
 
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Stopsignhank

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These two pictures were taken ten minutes apart, according to their EXIF data.


That just makes it all the stranger that he’s wearing the same suit he wore to the hospital on Friday - I would’ve assumed the pics were taken on Friday in anticipation that his condition might worsen overnight.

Does the presidential suite at Walter Reed not have a change of clothes on hand, or was everyone involved just so completely incompetent that they thought nobody would notice? And especially notice he's signing a blank piece of paper right in the middle of the sheet...And he still isn't wearing a mask ... lol
People are dying alone in a bed because their families are not allowed in the room and here he is in a room with a photographer and no mask on.
 
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Failure to acknowledge the fact that he would likely be morbidly ill over the next few weeks but for the intervention of as yet unapproved but rather effective treatments that you and I will not get if we get sick this week. The hubris and hypocrisy of this so called man has no limits.

So far it is a Democrat failure.
1st not speaking about how the President didn’t have the fucking balls to call people he may have exposed
2nd running to the hospital like a scared man
3rd What would the Presidents treatments cost the average citizen
4th the President likely has paid fewer federal taxes than the typical mid range earner for his life
5th wouldn’t it be great if we all had similar healthcare as the President?
Get sick
Get taken to the hospital for free
Get immediate care at the hospital
No in-network vs out of network hospital bullshit
No fighting with someone about what treatment is approved & covered
No chance of bankruptcy because you got Covid
Appropriate treatment given immediately.

6th I’m not talking about identical coverage as the President because obviously we all cannot have our own personal medical staff. I’m talking something similar to what the President has.
 
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Grey_Beard

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These two pictures were taken ten minutes apart, according to their EXIF data.


That just makes it all the stranger that he’s wearing the same suit he wore to the hospital on Friday - I would’ve assumed the pics were taken on Friday in anticipation that his condition might worsen overnight.

Does the presidential suite at Walter Reed not have a change of clothes on hand, or was everyone involved just so completely incompetent that they thought nobody would notice? And especially notice he's signing a blank piece of paper right in the middle of the sheet...And he still isn't wearing a mask ... lol

That’s not a blank document, it’s one of his executive orders. Same difference. I love how the Republicons railed against Obama for running the country by executive order, “circumvents the legislative process.” But this guy had both chambers and still had a ton of them which continues today. By signing that blank piece of paper, they can make up an executive order he did to say he’s doing fine.
 
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You could use a UV light to disinfect the documents, although you'd still have to be careful how you handled it until you were sure it was completely safe to touch. Either that or wait two or three days before handling it.

I was going to say this, isn’t the 48 hour standard still considered 99.9999% effective?
 

Greenman

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I'm not equal these days to showing high character in civilly-worded sentiments like the media-present Dems and the news pundits.

For a few years, I'd contemplated buying a bag of tinsel confetti, a CD of John Phillip Souza marches, some kazoos and noisemakers with party hats, little American flags for the SUV with dowel rod extension to fly them high or just below freeway overpasses -- and an external loudspeaker to play the CD. All with the idea that somebody with nothing to lose would put a neo-Nazi in a book warehouse just for a cover story, and I could celebrate.

Now, I'm caught off-guard. Maybe I'll drive by Party-Time tomorrow and work the visit into my regular errands.

The other despicable thought for which I lack any shame is an idea to start a mass-mailing campaign by citizens all over the country to send "Get sicker and die!" cards to Walter Reed Hospital. If you could totally demoralize that creep, it might put him over the edge and usher his way through a ventilator hook-up to a tidy end.

At this point, the celebration gear would still come in handy if there's a clear, sane outcome to the November election.

Maybe a person could make money from "after-election" bumper stickers: you know -- something like "Trumpers are Losers and F*** You!"

I've long passed the point where I could still nod when someone asks "Can't we all agree to disagree?"
Everyone we hate is inferior and deserves to die. The concept has been used again and again throughout history. It's easy to promote, and surprisingly effective. Demonize, kill, then revel in the knowledge that you've vanquished a deadly enemy.
 

Puffnstuff

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So far it is a Democrat failure.
1st not speaking about how the President didn’t have the fucking balls to call people he may have exposed
2nd running to the hospital like a scared man
3rd What would the Presidents treatments cost the average citizen
4th the President likely has paid fewer federal taxes than the typical mid range earner for his life
5th wouldn’t it be great if we all had similar healthcare as the President?
Get sick
Get taken to the hospital for free
Get immediate care at the hospital
No in-network vs out of network hospital bullshit
No fighting with someone about what treatment is approved & covered
No chance of bankruptcy because you got Covid
Appropriate treatment given immediately.

6th I’m not talking about identical coverage as the President because obviously we all cannot have our own personal medical staff. I’m talking something similar to what the President has.
Trump's getting a hell of a lot of bang for the buck right now isn't he? I mean look at what $750 has bought him thus far.

In all of this I have one important question to ask? Have any of the other so called "positives" sought medical treatment since the announcement of his positive test results?
 
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BonzaiDuck

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Everyone we hate is inferior and deserves to die. The concept has been used again and again throughout history. It's easy to promote, and surprisingly effective. Demonize, kill, then revel in the knowledge that you've vanquished a deadly enemy.
I prefer to use the word "despise". But on your ending phrase -- "deadly enemy" -- looking at the real costs of this presidency to various and all segments of the population but for a lucky few high-enders, "deadly" seems like a fairly accurate assessment.

"Loathe" is another good word, I suppose . . . . .

It's simplistic to think that the purpose of the original Nuremberg trials was simply to seek "Justice". They had a target audience, for a defined purpose. In that example, it seemed to have worked properly to some degree.
 

compcons

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Everyone we hate is inferior and deserves to die. The concept has been used again and again throughout history. It's easy to promote, and surprisingly effective. Demonize, kill, then revel in the knowledge that you've vanquished a deadly enemy.
I think you are missing the part where the people that are receiving the hate deserve it based on their poor track record and not the color of their skin or some preconceived, stereo-type expectations.

On the one hand, people hate Trump because:
Terrible track record for important things - Covid response and economy
Malicious character traits - Constantly berating women, the press, people of color, anyone not him
Serial Liar - Like always!
Team mentality - MOST divisive leader . EVER

On the other hand, some people (like Trump and his deplorables) hate "the other" because:
They are on the other team
The color of their skin

Note that one group hates the others not because of their actions and ineptitude, but just because they are not the same as them.

The fact that there are people who don't see that distinction is likely why they continue to miss the point time and time again. This isn't a choice that they make, they simple are wired that way. It's not politics, it's personality. I am not sure if they can ever change.
 

MtnMan

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Yes, that is the question. However, I would point out that the messaging on that at the presser was vague. At one point, the doctor said it had been 72 hours, which implied early Wednesday. Then he said Trump was tested early Thursday but did not get the diagnosis until late Thursday. When the doctor said 72 hours, he may have either slipped and accidentally told the truth or he may just have gotten the number of hours wrong.
I suspect that 72 hours was accurate. This man is a doctor that deals in facts. In his mind he is viewing the timeline of the disease progression of his patient, not putting the "republican" filter on what he says, until he is 'reminded' to filter what he says.
 

MtnMan

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Don't know if anyone covered this yet, around here, but while Donald Trump is in the hospital and since everyone around him are now testing pos, has Donald Trump once tweeted to his administration staff, or to his base, or to ANYONE a simple note of "I'm sorry" ??? Sorry America, for downplaying the virus. Sorry America, for not wearing the mask. Sorry America, for not only setting a bad example but for setting a deadly example? And Sorry America, that I have failed you completely as a president and a leader and with keeping you safe. While Donald Trump "could" be on his death bed, would it hurt Donald Trump to at least say..... I'M SORRY?
If he is sorry, he is sorry like the criminal that was caught committing a crime saying they are sorry. They are not sorry the committed the crime, they are sorry they got caught. I'm sure Trump is sorry "he" caught the virus, but that would be as far as it goes.
 
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