President and first Lady test positive for Covid-19 (Trumps)

[Roger Wilco]

Discharging Trump tomorrow seems like the worst possible decision, so naturally that is what they will do.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Listening to radio news now
QAnon (Qtips) are saying the President being away isn’t due to him having Covid, it isn’t because the deep state plants are going to be removed while the President is in hiding. Assuringly so he cannot be assassinated. They expect Hillary to be jailed plus a bunch others in the days to come.

Theory came from something in some tweet the President sent.
**not blaming the President these dudes are nuts**

 

[VRAMdemon]

He’s on dexamethsone but they want to send him home Monday? Does not compute.

yeah really ... In today’s evasive press conference, the doctor can’t remember whether Trump was given oxygen yesterday (which is impossible to believe, and obviously he would say “no” if he wasn’t given oxygen, so we can conclude that he was). And, he is on dexamethasone, which is not a drug given to deal with COVID, it is a drug given to deal with the Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome that COVID causes. It is recommended for patients with "severe and critical COVID-19" I'm no doctor, so correct me if I'm wrong, The way I understand is the point of dex is to inhibit the immune system. Because the respiratory distress caused by an over active immune system is more of a danger to that patient at that point than the virus itself. It is not something you would give lightly to a patient with a virus because it is not specific with regard to immune suppression.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Discharging Trump tomorrow seems like the worst possible decision, so naturally that is what they will do.

I’m baffled why they would create this expectation. Now if he doesn’t leave the hospital on Monday, it seems to mean that he’s doing worse than they expected. Why say anything at all about a discharge date?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I’m baffled why they would create this expectation. Now if he doesn’t leave the hospital on Monday, it seems to mean that he’s doing worse than they expected. Why say anything at all about a discharge date?

Because like all things Covid, there is no plan.

 

[Grey_Beard]

Because like all things Covid, there is no plan.

There is no competence.

 

[ecogen]

I’m baffled why they would create this expectation. Now if he doesn’t leave the hospital on Monday, it seems to mean that he’s doing worse than they expected. Why say anything at all about a discharge date?

Who fucking cares at this point, let them dig their own grave.

 

[sportage]

Leaving the hospital? They say whatever Trump tells them to say and as with anyone that has ever been in a hospital you want to get out. Trump probably seen the latest polls with Biden up 14 points and Trump took off running down the hall to the exit with hospital gown and exposed buttocks flapping all the way. I think about all the terrible things Donald Trump has done. Making fun of the handicapped, making fun of American heroes, and remember the murder of Washington post journalist Jamal khashoggi by the Saudi’s and Trump sided with the Saudi’s. I don’t care if Donald Trump IS in the hospital fighting the Covid, Trump is one evil mother fucker. NEVER forget that, especially come November 3rd. I mean, one can have only so much sympathy especially when none is deserved.

 

[Viper1j]

*ALLOWED* ? This is Trump doing what Trump wants ... he needs a DOCTOR to tackle him given a fucking positive covid19 test? If anyone should lose their job its Trump!

There's one other dynamic at play. "Doctor" Conley isn't just Doctor Conley. He's Also Commander Conley, a U.S. Navy officer. This isn't just a doctor-patient relationship, it's also a commander-in-chief – subordinate relationship. As a U.S. Navy officer, he's bound by the UCMJ to follow the orders of his superior officer.

If he's told not to say something, he doesn't have much of a say in the matter.

 

[Grooveriding]

There's one other dynamic at play. "Doctor" Conley isn't just Doctor Conley. He's Also Commander Conley, a U.S. Navy officer. This isn't just a doctor-patient relationship, it's also a commander-in-chief – subordinate relationship. As a U.S. Navy officer, he's bound by the UCMJ to follow the orders of his superior officer.

If he's told not to say something, he doesn't have much of a say in the matter.

Everything his physicians say will have been vetted beforehand, they need permission from him to discuss any detail regardless.

I had been thinking about whether or not they may have been misleading about his condition, and what it would take for that to happen. I had not considered that his primary was also a military officer. So he would be obligated to outright lie if Trump asked him to? Has he been the only physician talking to the media?

 

[skyking]

does he not sound like the prevaricator's mouthpiece?

 

[Puffnstuff]

Discharging Trump tomorrow seems like the worst possible decision, so naturally that is what they will do.

So seeing that he's full of sh!t will he discharge into the sewer main rather than get sent back to the WH? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

So seeing that he's full of sh!t will he discharge into the sewer main rather than get sent back to the WH? Inquiring minds want to know.

Hospitals aren’t jails, you can sign yourself out and leave.

 

[skyking]

Signing out AMA is not the same when your doctor and a medical team follows you home. The optics of the next few weeks are going to be interesting. Trump et al will be playing theater like they never have before.
The press and critics will be critiquing the performances.
Expect more photoshopped and edited videos from them, and more detective work from the rest of the world. The bullshit detectors will set on super sensitive.

 

[Grooveriding]

The obvious giveaway is going to be rally or no rally. I guess if it's no rally, now it's Trump who can't leave the 'basement'.

 

[kitkat22]

You are correct with the dex. It shouldnt be used except in respiratory failure. Before o2 is needed, steroids can increase the viral load making matters worse.

 

[Viper1j]

Everything his physicians say will have been vetted beforehand, they need permission from him to discuss any detail regardless.

I had been thinking about whether or not they may have been misleading about his condition, and what it would take for that to happen. I had not considered that his primary was also a military officer. So he would be obligated to outright lie if Trump asked him to? Has he been the only physician talking to the media?

There's not a single civilian doctor working on Trump.

 

[kitkat22]

The previous research with SARS showed increased viral load with use of steroids too early. The recovery trial showed no benefit and may have showed harm with using steroids too early.

 

[skyking]

You are correct with the dex. It shouldnt be used except in respiratory failure. Before o2 is needed, steroids can increase the viral load making matters worse.

It rings of a hail mary attempt for immediate improvement. Not good medicine.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is how deeply the BS is ingrained.

After the President, the first lady and so many others have tested positive for covid after failing to wear masks, a senior advisor to the Trump campaign says that "Joe Biden uses face masks as a 'prop'...(Wearing a) mask is very important, but even if he's -- he could be 20, 30 feet away from the nearest person and still have the mask on." That, even after being shown photos of recent Trump events where supporters are largely maskless and standing within six feet of one another in clear violations of federal health guidelines..., "Trump's team takes health guidelines meant to curb the spread of the deadly disease 'very seriously.'"

Take a position and stick to it, double down on it, even after the facts show how incredibly stupid it has been and how incredibly bad the results have been. Continue to point at the side that is fine and claim they are wrong.

Trump campaign adviser claims Biden's mask is a 'prop' as President hospitalized with Covid-19

A senior adviser to President Donald Trump's reelection campaign claimed that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden uses face masks as a "prop," two days after the President was hospitalized after contracting the coronavirus.

www.cnn.com

"It's why we give everyone coming to rallies or events, we give them a mask." He forgot to add "We know the delusional fools won't wear them, because Trump, but it's a nice prop." When & if Trump gets out of the hospital he'll want to rally like it's 2016, I'm sure.

 

[Grooveriding]

There's not a single civilian doctor working on Trump.

Okay. I should have read more into it. The entire hospital is a military one, I had no idea. If it's serious, it's going to come out one way or another.

 

[Commodus]

It rings of a hail mary attempt for immediate improvement. Not good medicine.

I can't help but think that Trump may prove to be his own doom if he's the one pushing for this. Mind you, that would be a good encapsulation of Trump as a whole: self-defeating behavior is almost in his genes.

 

[Lanyap]

LOL Clearwater. Isn't that a huge Scientology hub?

Yeah, if I had panned to the right you would have seen their Flag Service headquarters. I’m not sure if those people were Scientologists. Who knows, they might have their hands in his pocket too.

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[Lanyap]

So Michael Moore floats a conspiracy theory that Trump may be faking his Covid diagnosis. He makes some good points.

https://news.yahoo.com/michael-moore-floats-conspiracy-theory-213228956.html

"There is one absolute truth about Trump: He is a consistent, absolute, unrelenting, fearless, and professional liar. A serial liar. A factually proven liar. How many lies now has the Washington Post proven in these four years? 25,000? A lie at least twice during every waking hour? Think of all the bad people you’ve known in your life. Even the worst ones you couldn’t say that about.,"

Mr Moore then asked "so why on earth would we believe him today? Has he earned your trust now?"

"Democrats, liberals, the media and others have always been wrong to simply treat him as a buffoon and a dummy and a jackass. Yes, he is all those things. But he’s also canny. He’s clever. He outfoxed Comey. He outfoxed Mueller. He outfoxed 20 Republicans in the GOP primary and then did the same to the Democrats, winning the White House despite receiving fewer votes than his opponent," Mr Moore wrote. "He’s an evil genius and I raise the possibility of him lying about having Covid-19 to prepare us and counteract his game. He knows being sick tends to gain one sympathy. He’s not above weaponizing this."

 

[Greenman]

Article says he's a buffoon, a dummy, a jackass, and an evil genius. One doesn't often come across all four of those traits in one person.