President and first Lady test positive for Covid-19 (Trumps)

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Zorba

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Article says he's a buffoon, a dummy, a jackass, and an evil genius. One doesn't often come across all four of those traits in one person.
Yeah, most conspiracies fall apart if you expect them to be consistent for more than a sentence or two.
 

Commodus

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esquared

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Plus, do you think these doctors are going to risk their reputations by promoting a fake
COVID19 diagnosis? Even for the orange menace?
The AMA would yank their license.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Anything is possible with Trump; however, I think Michael Moore has jumped the shark/flown over the cuckoo's nest, whatever you wish to call it.

He is not the man he once was.

He was the one person sounding the alarm back when the media idiots were saying Clinton had a 98% chance to can.
 
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fskimospy

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It’s unclear to me as to why Trump would think highlighting his own massive failures and incompetence would be a wise campaign move.
 

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From CNBC earlier today. Gottlieb says he probably has at least moderate pneumonia.


“Sounds very much like POTUS has inflammatory changes on chest CT,” Gottlieb told CNBC, referring to scans of the president’s chest. Trump’s medical team Sunday refused to discuss what they saw in images of Trump’s lungs.
“They threw the kitchen sink at POTUS. But they saw signs he was decompensating,” Gottlieb said of the president’s medical team.
 

fskimospy

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There’s a reason why he hasn’t released any communications other than that pre-recorded video and it’s most likely because he’s very sick.
 
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Grooveriding

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I don't think he is, because that wouldn't explain why so many others were isolating or why the unofficial reports were saying it was more serious than claimed. But it says a lot about Trump that the very notion of him faking it is plausible.

Like any ridiculous conspiracy, if it didn't have to involve so many people, and people that would be making serious ethical violations; it would be plausible for a person like Trump.

Given just how many people would have to be in on it though, bunch of BS. They keep expanding upon the information about Trump's condition, and every new piece of data has been negative for his condition. I think it's more likely he is quite ill, and the calculus is that it's better to paint a rosy picture and wait for him to come out the other side. Makes him look 'strong' and he can spin it however yada yada.

If things do not go well, there is no sense in saying so until it's at the point of things becoming dire. Probably for political and national security reasons as well.
 

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Trump fucking knew Monday and still did the debate with the hopes of infecting Biden. What a fucking piece of shit.

Trump seems like the type who would both not care about other people's welfare even if he knew he was sick, and possibly would want to infect others. He seems like that much of an asshole.
 
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fskimospy

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Like any ridiculous conspiracy, if it didn't have to involve so many people, and people that would be making serious ethical violations; it would be plausible for a person like Trump.

Given just how many people would have to be in on it though, bunch of BS. They keep expanding upon the information about Trump's condition, and every new piece of data has been negative for his condition. I think it's more likely he is quite ill, and the calculus is that it's better to paint a rosy picture and wait for him to come out the other side. Makes him look 'strong' and he can spin it however yada yada.

If things do not go well, there is no sense in saying so until it's at the point of things becoming dire. Probably for political and national security reasons as well.
I don’t feel like he will come out of this looking strong either. Strong people don’t get hospitalized.
 

BUTCH1

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Plus, do you think these doctors are going to risk their reputations by promoting a fake
COVID19 diagnosis? Even for the orange menace?
The AMA would yank their license.
Yea, agree, Trump might get an outlying asshole like Barr to go along with anything but not an entire team of top-shelf
Dr's, plus his complete disregard for anything that would make him safe from the virus is well documented. Surprised
it took this long for the GOP idiots to get infected.
 

Muse

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“I didn’t want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction, and in doing so, you know, it came off that we were trying to hide something, which wasn’t necessarily true,” Dr. Sean P. Conley, the White House physician, said in a briefing with reporters Sunday.



This is not a straight talker, Dr. Conley

This is not a mild infection. From the NY Times today: "Dr. Conley said that the president had been given the steroid dexamethasone on Saturday, in addition to remdesivir, an antiviral drug. Dexamethasone has been shown to help patients who are severely ill with Covid-19, but it is typically not used in mild or moderate cases of the disease. "
 
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Commodus

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Like any ridiculous conspiracy, if it didn't have to involve so many people, and people that would be making serious ethical violations; it would be plausible for a person like Trump.

Given just how many people would have to be in on it though, bunch of BS. They keep expanding upon the information about Trump's condition, and every new piece of data has been negative for his condition. I think it's more likely he is quite ill, and the calculus is that it's better to paint a rosy picture and wait for him to come out the other side. Makes him look 'strong' and he can spin it however yada yada.

If things do not go well, there is no sense in saying so until it's at the point of things becoming dire. Probably for political and national security reasons as well.

That makes sense to me. Medical staff for the White House have historically downplayed presidential illnesses (I'm guessing for PR and to avoid giving enemies any ideas), and that might be true even if the Trump administration wasn't fundamentally dishonest.
 

Muse

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This is how deeply the BS is ingrained.

After the President, the first lady and so many others have tested positive for covid after failing to wear masks, a senior advisor to the Trump campaign says that "Joe Biden uses face masks as a 'prop'...(Wearing a) mask is very important, but even if he's -- he could be 20, 30 feet away from the nearest person and still have the mask on." That, even after being shown photos of recent Trump events where supporters are largely maskless and standing within six feet of one another in clear violations of federal health guidelines..., "Trump's team takes health guidelines meant to curb the spread of the deadly disease 'very seriously.'"

Take a position and stick to it, double down on it, even after the facts show how incredibly stupid it has been and how incredibly bad the results have been. Continue to point at the side that is fine and claim they are wrong.

Insanity. I call shens, the campaign advisor is a serious nutcase if he calls out Biden for wearing a mask when he's not close to other people. I see people in the streets wearing a mask. You never know when you'll be close to someone, it can happen in 3 seconds. You're supposed to don your mask in 1.5 seconds? Bonkers. Well, what can you expect from someone who would stoop so low as take a job from Donald Trump?
 

Muse

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*ALLOWED* ? This is Trump doing what Trump wants ... he needs a DOCTOR to tackle him given a fucking positive covid19 test? If anyone should lose their job its Trump!
Yeah, but Conley could have gone public. Yes, he would have lost his job but gained credibility. Now he looks like part of the corrupt infrastructure of the Trump machinery.

Edit: OK, maybe not. As a member of the military he was possibly muzzled. That just sucks.
 
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Muse

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Maybe I missed it but now there are leaks saying he had cardiac issues and 103 fever on Friday.

I also love how they are to incompetent to cover their digits trails when releasing the videos and photos. It was so quickly and easily discovered the video was edited and the photos of him working were taken less then 10 minutes apart. They aren’t even good at trying to cover stuff up.
Ya know, I won't be surprised if Trump is dead before Nov. 3. Not a bit.
 

Muse

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Not to mention anything he signed would be required to be fucking burned since he’s positive for a potent deadly disease. So what good is him signing anything?!
Brilliant! I swear on a stack of bibles I don't open my mail for several days after receiving. For all I know the mailman is positive. I write the reception date on it and wait a spell. Protocols. I'm high risk and figure, why take chances?
 
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