Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: eskimospy
So as long as Obama gave an ineffective appeal to students so that only a tiny fraction of them would watch it or even be aware that it existed, you would be ok with it. (actually you wouldn't, you would have started shrieking in another thread with "HOW MANY TIMES IS HE GOING TO BE ON TV")
You're the guy who earlier in this thread... when shown evidence from an objective source that the people you were quoting were 'pants on fire' false, and you responded with 'and now I'm even more convinced I'm right'. If you heard someone else say this, what would you think of them?
What the hell are you going on about now. But please keep up the diversion and not address the 4 points I and honey-bun have made. One of us has a masters in teaching, and it sure as hell ain't me.
So what really are you going on about with your post, I'm not getting the point.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Spidey, your quixotic crusade on this issue isn't doing anything other than make people think you're even crazier than we thought. As I've asked you before, take a step back and look at what you're flipping out about. Do you think this is normal?
That's why I asked the opinion of my girl, since she has a masters in education and doing her doctorate right now. I wanted to get her professional opinion. I got it and I posted it.
She brings up good points:
1) Why at at school and why the lesson plan from the education department?
2) Why not at night where parents can talk about this "historic moment" together?
3) Why the removal of "what can I do for Obama"?
4) What did he possibly mean to achieve with these combined actions when the message could be delivered in much less controversial means?
And lastly, why does anybody that speaks out, and ACTS in protest of this president a crazy? It's almost comical to watch all the name calling with no real point.
It's not anybody who speaks out, it's you. There are plenty of people who disagree with Obama that do so in a sane manner, but you're not one of them. Just look at your posts, they should embarrass you.
What percentage of kids in America would watch Obama (or anyone else) at 8PM? Once you figure that out, you'll have your answer.
Originally posted by: spidey07
She brings up good points:
1) Why at at school and why the lesson plan from the education department?
2) Why not at night where parents can talk about this "historic moment" together?
3) Why the removal of "what can I do for Obama"?
4) What did he possibly mean to achieve with these combined actions when the message could be delivered in much less controversial means?
Originally posted by: Modelworks
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I really wish the media had stayed out of it. I would love to see what the original speech and lesson plans were comprised of.
Originally posted by: spidey07
What he's failing to understand is the public isn't as dumb as he believes us to be.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Modelworks
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I really wish the media had stayed out of it. I would love to see what the original speech and lesson plans were comprised of.
I would give anything to see what the original speech and lesson plans were.
It is only by our resistance and outrage that it's getting tempered. Not that I'm trying to associate you with my apparent "craziness".
This is a typical pattern from Obama that I alluded to earlier. He puts out crazy shit and then backs off from the public resistance. He's smart. He's trying to see just what he can get away with.
What he's failing to understand is the public isn't as dumb as he believes us to be.
Originally posted by: mizzou
Children had always had the right to opt out of general activities due to religous/philosophical/political views. Ever have kids sit outside during christmas?
Not sure what the hub-bub is all about. Apparently the president can't address the people that voted him in. If you want to control what your child sees on TV to an amazing extent because you are afraid they may think differently then you, then just have your kid sit out in the freaking hall.
Heaven forbid he might have something encouraging to say so that kids can say they like him.
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I'm glad my kids have Tuesday off from school. Some staff development day that was planned long ago.
I don't see why anyone is against people pulling their kids that day. It's their/your right/responsibility as a parent to choose what they are exposed to. I've not been keeping up on this exact issue due to being on the road but if anyone thinks that the idea was just some "innocent" little pep talk then they've been drinking too much of the change colored kool-aid. BHO (and any President for that matter) doesn't exert effort for trivial things. But hey - it's good to see people paying attention!
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Withholding judgment until the contents are made public.
Originally posted by: alphatarget1
Withholding judgment until the contents are made public.
Originally posted by: Perknose
This senseless idol worship must stop! :|
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I'm glad my kids have Tuesday off from school. Some staff development day that was planned long ago.
I don't see why anyone is against people pulling their kids that day. It's their/your right/responsibility as a parent to choose what they are exposed to. I've not been keeping up on this exact issue due to being on the road but if anyone thinks that the idea was just some "innocent" little pep talk then they've been drinking too much of the change colored kool-aid. BHO (and any President for that matter) doesn't exert effort for trivial things. But hey - it's good to see people paying attention!
To think your kids are going to be hurt by a speech from the president of the united states is asinine. Of course, it's your right for your kids to control what your kids see however I and the majority of adults think its a gross parental error.
To CADsortaGuy and others whom aren't allowing their children to see Obama's speech. What do you predict Obama is going to say? How will this impact your children?
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Where did I state they were going to be "hurt"? I do as a parent have every right and responsibility to choose what they are exposed to. A good parent does that anyway...
From the looks of it, it was a piss poorly planned stunt and he/they got called on it. They've already removed the what can you do for BHO BS - so that alone shows how incompetent and or partisan this was from the start.
I don't know what exactly he is going to say and thus I can not opine on how it would impact my child. However, due to the nature and circumstances - I'm happy our school district does not have school that day.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Where did I state they were going to be "hurt"? I do as a parent have every right and responsibility to choose what they are exposed to. A good parent does that anyway...
From the looks of it, it was a piss poorly planned stunt and he/they got called on it. They've already removed the what can you do for BHO BS - so that alone shows how incompetent and or partisan this was from the start.
I don't know what exactly he is going to say and thus I can not opine on how it would impact my child. However, due to the nature and circumstances - I'm happy our school district does not have school that day.
Uhmmm, no it doesn't. I'll ask you the same question I asked Spidey. If a child is throwing a temper tantrum and his mom eventually gives in to him, does that mean that the kid was right?
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Where did I state they were going to be "hurt"? I do as a parent have every right and responsibility to choose what they are exposed to. A good parent does that anyway...
From the looks of it, it was a piss poorly planned stunt and he/they got called on it. They've already removed the what can you do for BHO BS - so that alone shows how incompetent and or partisan this was from the start.
I don't know what exactly he is going to say and thus I can not opine on how it would impact my child. However, due to the nature and circumstances - I'm happy our school district does not have school that day.
Uhmmm, no it doesn't. I'll ask you the same question I asked Spidey. If a child is throwing a temper tantrum and his mom eventually gives in to him, does that mean that the kid was right?
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Where did I state they were going to be "hurt"? I do as a parent have every right and responsibility to choose what they are exposed to. A good parent does that anyway...
From the looks of it, it was a piss poorly planned stunt and he/they got called on it. They've already removed the what can you do for BHO BS - so that alone shows how incompetent and or partisan this was from the start.
I don't know what exactly he is going to say and thus I can not opine on how it would impact my child. However, due to the nature and circumstances - I'm happy our school district does not have school that day.
Uhmmm, no it doesn't. I'll ask you the same question I asked Spidey. If a child is throwing a temper tantrum and his mom eventually gives in to him, does that mean that the kid was right?
? That has nothing to do with this situation. It is entirely inappropriate for BHO or ANY President to ask kids to do things for him. The country? Fine. Their Family? fine. Him? No, and he/they rightly got called on it.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Where did I state they were going to be "hurt"? I do as a parent have every right and responsibility to choose what they are exposed to. A good parent does that anyway...
From the looks of it, it was a piss poorly planned stunt and he/they got called on it. They've already removed the what can you do for BHO BS - so that alone shows how incompetent and or partisan this was from the start.
I don't know what exactly he is going to say and thus I can not opine on how it would impact my child. However, due to the nature and circumstances - I'm happy our school district does not have school that day.
Uhmmm, no it doesn't. I'll ask you the same question I asked Spidey. If a child is throwing a temper tantrum and his mom eventually gives in to him, does that mean that the kid was right?
? That has nothing to do with this situation. It is entirely inappropriate for BHO or ANY President to ask kids to do things for him. The country? Fine. Their Family? fine. Him? No, and he/they rightly got called on it.
Your response has nothing to do with what I wrote.