President is really winding up the anti-immigrant crowd - order to end birthright citizenship

[brycejones]

Yes.

So you would have sent the Jews back to Germany?

 

[Jhhnn]

They are all gaming the system. All of them regardless of their color or origin.

And the children? Are they gaming the system? Their rights are at issue, not the rights of their parents.

 

[pcgeek11]

An illegal action should not be rewarded.

NOTE: I am not discussing aliens that show up IAW the law at designated ports of entry. I am talking about illegal aliens ( people that enter the US by breaking the law ).

 

[pcgeek11]

So you would have sent the Jews back to Germany?

Apples and Oranges.

 

[pcgeek11]

And the children? Are they gaming the system? Their rights are at issue, not the rights of their parents.

These children are the responsibility of their parents. Some parents make bad choices.

 

[jackstar7]

OK since you want to play word games, let me word it this way: People that are here illegally should not be allowed to have children automatically become citizens.

Better?

I mean you're a xenophobe, but since that seems fine for you, I guess do whatever, coward.

 

[fskimospy]

Well the odds are slim to none for either of these options. I would be open to some changes in the 2nd amendment...

I agree the odds are slim for both but I’m not looking for changes, I want it repealed.

 

[Engineer]

You guys are wasting your time.

 

[Victorian Gray]

So you would have sent the Jews back to Germany?

Probably not a fair question because pretty much everyone turned them away back then.

 

[brycejones]

Probably not a fair question because pretty much everyone turned them away back then.

Treating others like we treated the Jews then means we haven't learned a damn thing. Its a very fair question.

 

[sportage]

CNN or was it MSNBC interviewed a mother that gave birth during the caravan exodus.
CNN was hyping up how this mother, with her newborn in arms, decided to remain with the caravan heading for the US.
And how courageous and determined this mother was, regardless of the risk to her newborn, to caravan to America.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

I'd bet money that this pregnant mother HAD HOPED to give birth within the US borders so that her child would then be a legal American citizen.
And I'd bet this was the real reason why this expecting mother risked her unborn child and joined the caravan.
She was expecting, and hoped to give birth within US borders.
But that plan didn't quite work out for this mother....
She went into labor BEFORE reaching the US, gave birth , and well... so much for that bright idea.

I wonder how many pregnant expecting women are traveling in this caravan with the same idea?
All hoping to hold off long enough to somehow someway give birth to that child within US borders?
I just don't know.... I don't get it..... But that seems sooooo wrong.
A loophole in our constitution only to be taken advantage of, and an American practice that must be stopped then changed.

If I were Trump, I wouldn't concentrate on ISIS or gang members possibly traveling with this caravan, I'd focus on the expecting mothers that hope to give birth once reaching US borders.
And thus a child legally a US citizen.
And it then only goes to follow, a mother that must be granted citizenship as well, for the sake of her American child.

 

[fskimospy]

CNN or was it MSNBC interviewed a mother that gave birth during the caravan exodus.
CNN was hyping up how this mother, with her newborn in arms, decided to remain with the caravan heading for the US.
And how courageous and determined this mother was, regardless of the risk to her newborn, to caravan to America.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

I'd bet money that this pregnant mother HAD HOPED to give birth within the US borders so that her child would then be a legal American citizen.
And I'd bet this was the real reason why this expecting mother risked her unborn child and joined the caravan.
She was expecting, and hoped to give birth within US borders.
But that plan didn't quite work out for this mother....
She went into labor BEFORE reaching the US, gave birth , and well... so much for that bright idea.

I wonder how many pregnant expecting women are traveling in this caravan with the same idea?
All hoping to hold off long enough to somehow someway give birth to that child within US borders?
I just don't know.... I don't get it..... But that seems sooooo wrong.
A loophole in our constitution only to be taken advantage of, and an American practice that must be stopped then changed.

If I were Trump, I wouldn't concentrate on ISIS or gang members possibly traveling with this caravan, I'd focus on the expecting mothers that hope to give birth once reaching US borders.
And thus a child legally a US citizen.
And it then only goes to follow, a mother that must be granted citizenship as well, for the sake of her American child.

Why would anyone focus on this? It’s weird that anyone considers this to be a meaningful problem.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why would anyone focus on this? It’s weird that anyone considers this to be a meaningful problem.

It's crap, and like Jerry Springer once said, crap sells.

 

[Viper1j]

Apples and Oranges.

Apples and apples.

The only difference between the Jews fleeing Germany, and the current situation, is that the Jews weren't brown.

Both were fleeing persecution, murder, and forced sexual and nonsexual slavery. Both showed up as refugees, and both showed up requesting asylum. The president then, didn't order the US armed forces to shoot women and children, like the current Baby Killer in Chief.

I can't help but wonder if the fact that Trump can trace his ancestry back to German roots might not have something to do with that.

These children are the responsibility of their parents. Some parents make bad choices.

That doesn't make the children any less United States citizens. I would actually like to see Trump get away with that, if only for the fact that once that precedent has been set, the second amendment can be wiped out by Executive Order and a lot of guns can be taken off the streets.

 

[rudder]

Blatantly unconstitutional, it will go nowhere. 14th amendment.

I bet we hear basically nothing from the ‘strict adherence to the constitution’ party about this though.

Well if we were strictly adhering to the 14th amendment... a Chinese national would not be able to come to the U.S. on a tourist visa while she is 8.5 months pregnant then leave a few weeks later with her newborn who is now a U.S. citizen.

 

[pcgeek11]

I mean you're a xenophobe, but since that seems fine for you, I guess do whatever, coward.

No that doesn't fit either as I am not afraid of anyone.

I guess you are a lot like ivwshane and have nothing to add but name calling and insults... You lose.

 

[pcgeek11]

Apples and apples.

The only difference between the Jews fleeing Germany, and the current situation, is that the Jews weren't brown.

Both were fleeing persecution, murder, and forced sexual and nonsexual slavery. Both showed up as refugees, and both showed up requesting asylum. The president then, didn't order the US armed forces to shoot women and children, like the current Baby Killer in Chief.

I can't help but wonder if the fact that Trump can trace his ancestry back to German roots might not have something to do with that.

That doesn't make the children any less United States citizens. I would actually like to see Trump get away with that, if only for the fact that once that precedent has been set, the second amendment can be wiped out by Executive Order and a lot of guns can be taken off the streets.

Wow, You are quite a liar. Unless you have a link where President Trump ordered US Troops to kill anyone.

Post it or admit your lie.

 

[UberNeuman]

You guys are wasting your time.

Why so many waste the time, I'll never know....

 

[Viper1j]

Wow, You are quite a liar. Unless you have a link where President Trump ordered US Troops to kill anyone.

Post it or admit your lie.

Here's your link..
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/trump-the-baby-killer.2556156/

There's an entire thread about it Sparky, but I'll repost the relevant portion here..

President Donald Trump said members of the U.S. military sent to the southern border to keep out thousands in a migrant caravan would "fight back" if immigrants throw stones and suggested soldiers might open fire on the group because there's "not much difference" between a rock or gun.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

They are all gaming the system. All of them regardless of their color or origin.

Now youre just being stupid. There is no way for you to know or prove that.


What we do know is that right wing nativists supported by a racist president are the ones pushing this idea of reinterpreting or changing the 14th.

Like you for example.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Apples and Oranges.

Whites and browns.

 

[Viper1j]

I agree the odds are slim for both but I’m not looking for changes, I want it repealed.

How do you feel about repealing the 5th?

Then cops can just snatch you up for no reason, and beat a confession out of you... Like the "good ole' days"..

 

[pcgeek11]

Here's your link..
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/trump-the-baby-killer.2556156/

There's an entire thread about it Sparky, but I'll repost the relevant portion here..

President Donald Trump said members of the U.S. military sent to the southern border to keep out thousands in a migrant caravan would "fight back" if immigrants throw stones and suggested soldiers might open fire on the group because there's "not much difference" between a rock or gun.

Nowhere in there did I see where he ordered anyone to shoot anyone. The military cannot do law enforcement as it is against the law. They are there for support of the border patrol only.

That being said, If someone is cornered and being pelted with rocks they do have a right to defend themselves, a rock is considered a deadly weapon when used as such. I don't think women and children are going to be throwing rocks.

I don't see a gun anywhere:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-troops-seen-setting-up-barbed-wire-near-mexico-border

But keep twisting your panties.

 

[pcgeek11]

Now youre just being stupid. There is no way for you to know or prove that.


What we do know is that right wing nativists supported by a racist president are the ones pushing this idea of reinterpreting or changing the 14th.

Like you for example.

Yes, I would like to see it changed or better defined.

 

[pcgeek11]

Whites and browns.

Now who is being stupid?