President is really winding up the anti-immigrant crowd - order to end birthright citizenship

[pcgeek11]

How do you feel about repealing the 5th?

Then cops can just snatch you up for no reason, and beat a confession out of you... Like the "good ole' days"..

What has that have to do with anything?

How do you feel about peanut butter and coffee ice cream?

 

[Viper1j]

Nowhere in there did I see where he ordered anyone to shoot anyone. The military cannot do law enforcement as it is against the law. They are there for support of the border patrol only.

That being said, If someone is cornered and being pelted with rocks they do have a right to defend themselves, a rock is considered a deadly weapon when used as such. I don't think women and children are going to be throwing rocks.

It was the bolded part, but you're in denial.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle

The M16 uses the 5.56mm NATO (.223) caliber cartridge, with a muzzle velocity (the speed of bullet leaving the rifle) of over 900 meters per second (over 3,000 feet per second), and has a maximum effective range of 550 meters, with a rate of fire (how fast the gun shoots) of approximately 800 rounds per minute.

If you know any rock throwers moving rocks that fast, pro baseball teams would love to talk to them.

A rifle against a rock is not "self defense".

What has that have to do with anything?

How do you feel about peanut butter and coffee ice cream?

It seems the most basic of concepts are beyond your comprehension. If one amendment can be changed by executive order, then any or ALL of the amendments can be changed the same way.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.

Citizenship is not something that should be strategized or circumvented. Obviously the founders of the amendments probably didn't foresee the issues in relation to today's air travel.

I agree that I dont believe this will go anywhere based on the 14th amendment, so I'm not discussing that.

For all of you that love to get a hardon for European countries, the majority do not allow anchor babies.

 

[Paratus]

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.

Citizenship is not something that should be strategized or circumvented. Obviously the founders of the amendments probably didn't foresee the issues in relation to today's air travel.

I agree that I dont believe this will go anywhere based on the 14th amendment, so I'm not discussing that.

For all of you that love to get a hardon for European countries, the majority do not allow anchor babies.

Its more like 6% at 250,000 down 36% since 2007. So meh?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fewer-...igrant-parents-us-pew-research-center-report/

I’m having a hard time freaking out about this.

 

[sdifox]

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-birth-rate-hit-all-time-low-demographic-time-bomb-2018-5


You guys need all the babies you can get.

 

[fskimospy]

Well if we were strictly adhering to the 14th amendment... a Chinese national would not be able to come to the U.S. on a tourist visa while she is 8.5 months pregnant then leave a few weeks later with her newborn who is now a U.S. citizen.

Yes, she would. What conservatives want to do is NOT strictly adhere to the plain language of the amendment because they don’t like what it says.

Funny how that works where we need to strictly adhere to some amendments (second) and not others (fourteenth). It’s almost like their claims of originalism and textualism were not genuine.

 

[fskimospy]

How do you feel about repealing the 5th?

Then cops can just snatch you up for no reason, and beat a confession out of you... Like the "good ole' days"..

I don’t support repealing the fifth amendment as it serves a valuable purpose, unlike the second.

 

[Viper1j]

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.

Citizenship is not something that should be strategized or circumvented. Obviously the founders of the amendments probably didn't foresee the issues in relation to today's air travel.

I agree that I dont believe this will go anywhere based on the 14th amendment, so I'm not discussing that.

For all of you that love to get a hardon for European countries, the majority do not allow anchor babies.

I bet if I shake your family tree hard enough, an "anchor baby" will fall out.

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.

Citizenship is not something that should be strategized or circumvented. Obviously the founders of the amendments probably didn't foresee the issues in relation to today's air travel.

I agree that I dont believe this will go anywhere based on the 14th amendment, so I'm not discussing that.

For all of you that love to get a hardon for European countries, the majority do not allow anchor babies.

Most European countries also started out as monarchies, or dictatorships.

The United States has never answered to a king since the Revolutionary war, even though the oval office is currently occupied by a megalomaniac that only THINKS he's a king.

Name one country on the planet, that has a constitution even close to ours in terms of freedom.

 

[brycejones]

Well if we were strictly adhering to the 14th amendment... a Chinese national would not be able to come to the U.S. on a tourist visa while she is 8.5 months pregnant then leave a few weeks later with her newborn who is now a U.S. citizen.

Based on what? The 14th is about place and where you come into the world not about your parents based specifically on a more than 100 year old SCOTUS ruling tied to a man born to Chinese immigrants in the US.

 

[brycejones]

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.
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Cool we need more people.

 

[IronWing]

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.

Anchor babies are not a serious issue. Healthcare is a serious issue. Income inequality is a serious issue. Anchor babies are just babies, our fellow citizens.

 

[Sunburn74]

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.

Citizenship is not something that should be strategized or circumvented. Obviously the founders of the amendments probably didn't foresee the issues in relation to today's air travel.

I agree that I dont believe this will go anywhere based on the 14th amendment, so I'm not discussing that.

For all of you that love to get a hardon for European countries, the majority do not allow anchor babies.

US birth rates are extremely low and have been flat for decades
Immigration historically has offered massive benefits to the US which other countries have not experienced. More than 1/2 of today's fortune 500 companies were started either by immigrants or first generation children of immigrants.
I'd be in favor of functional immigration legislation if someone could come up with a reasonable idea. In addition, I'm more in favor of working on bigger and more costly and more immediate problems the country faces. Right now to me it seems more like a manufactured problem as opposed to a real one. Trump's current immigration rhetoric to me has flavors of mid 1930s scapegoating German Jews for all the ills of their society and painting them as some sort of dangerous element that will steal from you and assault your wives and children. I find his language highly disturbing .

 

[Viper1j]

A dream come true, would be for every immigrant working in any capacity for a Trump enterprise, to just walk out for a week, and tell him to mom this on fucking floors and make his own beds, and cook his own meals.

Let's see how many white people he could get, how many "nationalists" will stand in line to do the work.

 

[snoopy7548]

Anchor babies are not a serious issue. Healthcare is a serious issue. Income inequality is a serious issue. Anchor babies are just babies, our fellow citizens.

Exactly. While we're pounding our fists and raging over anchor babies (which have virtually zero effect on the average American, or any American for that matter), our healthcare system is completely screwed. We're so short-sighted and backwards it's not even funny.

 

[dainthomas]

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.

Citizenship is not something that should be strategized or circumvented. Obviously the founders of the amendments probably didn't foresee the issues in relation to today's air travel.

I agree that I dont believe this will go anywhere based on the 14th amendment, so I'm not discussing that.

For all of you that love to get a hardon for European countries, the majority do not allow anchor babies.

Surely you're aware that "anchor babies" don't even exist. If you're trying to say people are risking death so their kids can sponsor them for a green card in 21 years (plus penalty time for being here undocumented), I want some of whatever you're on.

 

[brycejones]

Exactly. While we're pounding our fists and raging over anchor babies (which have virtually zero effect on the average American, or any American for that matter), our healthcare system is completely screwed. We're so short-sighted and backwards it's not even funny.

It's freaking hilarious to those that keep looting the country.

 

[jackstar7]

No that doesn't fit either as I am not afraid of anyone.

So coward and a liar. Got it.

 

[Viper1j]

It's freaking hilarious to those that keep looting the country.

Yes, I would like to see it changed or better defined.

Nobody is going to rewrite anything down to a 3rd grade level, just so Trumpanzees can feel good about themselves. Trump says he "loves the uneducated," so he should be careful what he wishes for.

 

[Jhhnn]

Anchor babies are not a serious issue. Healthcare is a serious issue. Income inequality is a serious issue. Anchor babies are just babies, our fellow citizens.

But they're brown! Don't you understand?! Whiteness is what made this country great!

 

[Victorian Gray]

So just wondering... can the lefties here at least admit that anchor babies is a serious issue? Nearly 10% of US births are anchor babies. That is fucking huge.

Citizenship is not something that should be strategized or circumvented. Obviously the founders of the amendments probably didn't foresee the issues in relation to today's air travel.

I agree that I dont believe this will go anywhere based on the 14th amendment, so I'm not discussing that.

For all of you that love to get a hardon for European countries, the majority do not allow anchor babies.

Births to undocumented immigrant parents in U.S. fall to lowest since 2000, new report shows

"Children born to undocumented immigrants accounted for 6 percent of the 4 million births in the U.S. in 2016, the Pew Research Center estimated, based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fewer-...igrant-parents-us-pew-research-center-report/

 

[pcgeek11]

It was the bolded part, but you're in denial.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle

The M16 uses the 5.56mm NATO (.223) caliber cartridge, with a muzzle velocity (the speed of bullet leaving the rifle) of over 900 meters per second (over 3,000 feet per second), and has a maximum effective range of 550 meters, with a rate of fire (how fast the gun shoots) of approximately 800 rounds per minute.

If you know any rock throwers moving rocks that fast, pro baseball teams would love to talk to them.

A rifle against a rock is not "self defense".



It seems the most basic of concepts are beyond your comprehension. If one amendment can be changed by executive order, then any or ALL of the amendments can be changed the same way.

So you don't believe a rock can be used as a weapon? See stonings in the middle east.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ath-stoning-why-is-sickening-punishment-legal

Fine, you are the one living in ignorance.

Just to restate my past post, I never said he could change it with an executive order. I said the opposite.

 

[pcgeek11]

So coward and a liar. Got it.

LOL.

 

[Jhhnn]

So you don't believe a rock can be used as a weapon? See stonings in the middle east.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ath-stoning-why-is-sickening-punishment-legal

Fine, you are the one living in ignorance.

Just to restate my past post, I never said he could change it with an executive order. I said the opposite.

But you'd be down for it if he could, obviously.

 

[Fenixgoon]

So you don't believe a rock can be used as a weapon? See stonings in the middle east.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ath-stoning-why-is-sickening-punishment-legal

Fine, you are the one living in ignorance.

Just to restate my past post, I never said he could change it with an executive order. I said the opposite.

so you think a thrown rock is comparable to a rifle round on the spectrum of use-of-force and lethality?

 

[spacejamz]

so you think a thrown rock is comparable to a rifle round on the spectrum of use-of-force and lethality?

Yeah..the first thing I wanna do when trying to get asylum in another country is to chuck rocks at their law enforcement officers or their military. Sounds like they would be first rate citizens...