President is really winding up the anti-immigrant crowd - order to end birthright citizenship

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IronWing

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Yeah..the first thing I wanna do when trying to get asylum in another country is to chuck rocks at their law enforcement officers or their military. Sounds like they would be first rate citizens...
They have done no such thing yet. This is the beauty of Trumpism. We're debating bullshit simply because Trump spouted bullshit. Meanwhile Trump and his cronies are raiding the treasury and Republicans are disenfranchising voters wholesale.
 

Svnla

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They have done no such thing yet. This is the beauty of Trumpism. We're debating bullshit simply because Trump spouted bullshit. Meanwhile Trump and his cronies are raiding the treasury and Republicans are disenfranchising voters wholesale.

They haven't? Are you sure? They surely have done that and more already in Mexico and Guatemala.

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Bullshit articles from AP and Reuters, eh?
 
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ivwshane

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Yeah..the first thing I wanna do when trying to get asylum in another country is to chuck rocks at their law enforcement officers or their military. Sounds like they would be first rate citizens...

Except they aren't doing that. That's simply made up bullshit your cult leader shat into your brain that you now believe.
 

trenchfoot

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Nowhere in there did I see where he ordered anyone to shoot anyone. The military cannot do law enforcement as it is against the law. They are there for support of the border patrol only.

That being said, If someone is cornered and being pelted with rocks they do have a right to defend themselves, a rock is considered a deadly weapon when used as such. I don't think women and children are going to be throwing rocks.

I don't see a gun anywhere:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-troops-seen-setting-up-barbed-wire-near-mexico-border



But keep twisting your panties.

Technically speaking, they're putting up a temporary wire barrier "for show" at best since the razor wire is not being staked and tied off. Really easy to penetrate on its own if left that way. As easy as throwing a plank or tree branch to get over it. Best guess is that photo is for nothing other than PR IF they're actually at the border doing that and IF this happened after Trump's vote getting panic alarm was raised..
 

JSt0rm

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Technically speaking, they're putting up a temporary wire barrier "for show" at best since the razor wire is not being staked and tied off. Really easy to penetrate on its own if left that way. As easy as throwing a plank or tree branch to get over it. Best guess is that photo is for nothing other than PR IF they're actually at the border doing that and IF this happened after Trump's vote getting panic alarm was raised..

the military is ready...

 

trenchfoot

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the military knows what to do to defend the country...


Heh, the way Trump is hyping the wholesale invasion hysteria along our southern border by murderers, rapists and terrorist middle easterners and what needs to be done to stifle the hordes from crossing over, those pics aren't that far removed from the results Trump's fake alarmist rhetoric would end up looking like.
 

pcgeek11

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But you'd be down for it if he could, obviously.

IF he could (which he can't) I would be fine with him redefining that an illegal alien cannot bear a child in the US and it gets automatic birth rights as a citizen.

That is what I think.
 
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pcgeek11

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so you think a thrown rock is comparable to a rifle round on the spectrum of use-of-force and lethality?

Is that what I said? No it isn't what I said, nor is it what I meant.

That is a stupid assumption on your part.

A rock is a lethal weapon when used as such. And if a person was cornered and being pelted by rock throwing individual or individuals that person would be perfectly justified in using deadly force to remove the threat.
 

pcgeek11

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the military is ready...

the military knows what to do to defend the country...

Heh, the way Trump is hyping the wholesale invasion hysteria along our southern border by murderers, rapists and terrorist middle easterners and what needs to be done to stifle the hordes from crossing over, those pics aren't that far removed from the results Trump's fake alarmist rhetoric would end up looking like.

yeah. It will probably look like this...

You guys are insane.
 

pcgeek11

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This will end up just like President Trumps allegedly starting a nuclear war with North Korea.

A big old nothing... Feel free to continue twisting your panties in a knot, it is entertaining.
 

Viper1j

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he just wants to see dead brown people.

A rock thrower, throwing at 3000 feet per second would instantly become the darling of the MLB. They would be fighting over that person like lions over a zebra. Teams would pay whatever Donny wanted to buy that person citizenship.

And every Trumpanzee here knows it.

IF he could (which he can't) I would be fine with him redefining that an illegal alien cannot bear a child in the US and it gets automatic birth rights as a citizen.

That is what I think.

You're probably pissed that freed slaves became citizens too. Blame that on the 14th.
 
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^^^^^^^ I don't even know what that is. Or what it is supposed to mean.

I am glad we agree on who are the insane ones here.

It’s a reference to a semi farsical group almost cult that is waiting for the Gun Jesus to arrive or something similar. They have a Christian like service where the guns are worshipped.
Some people claim they do it as a joke or trolling and other say some are serious about it.
 
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A rock thrower, throwing at 3000 feet per second would instantly become the darling of the MLB. They would be fighting over that person like lions over a zebra. Teams would pay whatever Donny wanted to buy that person citizenship.

And every Trumpanzee here knows it.



You're probably pissed that freed slaves became citizens too. Blame that on the 14th.

I think his point is if there are dozens of persons with slings and hundreds of rock throwers that can be dangerous. I’d have to agree.
Now if we make a fantasy scenario where 4 people from the military are overrun by 100+ rock throwers and a few more with real legitimate slings and there is no possibility of escape or back up and the crowd is out to kill someone. Then of course the Military should be able to fire, we all can agree on that.
However that is not a scenario that is likely to occur ever.
 
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trenchfoot

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Well we all know from way way back in history that throwing rocks led to an escalating arms race that eventually led us to possessing nuclear armed missiles and chem/bio weapons capable of ending the world with much more pain and suffering than any meteor ever could.

So if Trump wants to escalate some rock throwing event into a bloodbath using HIS military's advanced weaponry against a bunch of poor destitute folks running away from violence and REAL death squads just because he needs his supporters to stay by his side and keep voting for him I think we need to know just how far he and his supporters are willing to go to keep this "invasion", this "horde" of brown skinned folks from seeking shelter inside our borders.

Or is Trump just being Trump by saying things he doesn't really mean (more commonly known as lying) for the umpteenth time?

Either way, his ramping up the hate and fear rhetoric by implying that the USA should resort to wholesale murder by firing rifles into a crowd to solve an immigration problem makes him look as bad as any ruthless power hungry dictator that ever existed on this here earth of ours.
 

pcgeek11

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You're probably pissed that freed slaves became citizens too. Blame that on the 14th.

Dude, Why do you keep making stuff up. Nobody even came close to suggesting that. I think you just want to be a victim...
 

pcgeek11

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It’s a reference to a semi farsical group almost cult that is waiting for the Gun Jesus to arrive or something similar. They have a Christian like service where the guns are worshipped.
Some people claim they do it as a joke or trolling and other say some are serious about it.

So they are insane. LOL

Thanks for the heads up.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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I think his point is if there are dozens of persons with slings and hundreds of rock throwers that can be dangerous. I’d have to agree.
Now if we make a fantasy scenario where 4 people from the military are overrun by 100+ rock throwers and a few more with real legitimate slings and there is no possibility of escape or back up and the crowd is out to kill someone. Then of course the Military should be able to fire, we all can agree on that.
However that is not a scenario that is likely to occur ever.

I knew you would get it.

And as I said, the troops are only there in support roles and I doubt any will be armed.
 

ImpulsE69

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Either way, his ramping up the hate and fear rhetoric by implying that the USA should resort to wholesale murder by firing rifles into a crowd to solve an immigration problem makes him look as bad as any ruthless power hungry dictator that ever existed on this here earth of ours.

Well, if the country was as...moral...as they like to proclaim to be, then yes, you'd be right. However, the opposite is proving to be true. We are beginning to look no better than any other 3rd world country.
 
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