President is really winding up the anti-immigrant crowd - order to end birthright citizenship

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pcgeek11

Lifer
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We are talking in circles and the Viper wants to make it a race issue.

I'm done. It isn't going to happen anyway, just like the 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere either.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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My god, do you even hear yourself? You are contradicting yourself and proving everyone's point. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about!

No I'm not. If citizenship isn't given it couldn't be stripped.

Pretty simple unless you are slow.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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We are talking in circles and the Viper wants to make it a race issue.

I'm done. It isn't going to happen anyway, just like the 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere either.

Let's be blunt conservatives didn't give a shit about birthright citizenship until they were concerned about going to brown people (Asian or Mexicans/central Americans) you can play the "I"m not a racist" card all you want. But this is only an issue because its yet another way to stop the "wrong" people from being citizens.

It is about race and you're lying if you say it isn't.
 

fskimospy

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I disagree.

There was no such thing as illegal aliens at the time. We need an update. That is what is totally obvious.

The people who wrote and enacted the amendment came out and explicitly stated it. There is no arguing it was their exact intent.
 

Viper1j

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As I said earlier:

QUOTE="pcgeek11",

Oh don't be silly. You obviously are just wanting to turn this into some racist thing so you can play your racist card....

I'm done playing.

My last word to you on this topic.

Admission of ignorance accepted.



As regards the "race" allegation, bonus points for you if you can name any country in which whites were enslaved. And no, Jews don't count because they were enslaved because of their religion, not their ethnicity.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
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The child didn't do anything. His parent(s) however broke the law by entering the country illegally.

The child shouldn't be stripped of anything, citizenship should not be given for illegal actions.
The birth is not illegal.
 

Greenman

Lifer
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Let's be blunt conservatives didn't give a shit about birthright citizenship until they were concerned about going to brown people (Asian or Mexicans/central Americans) you can play the "I"m not a racist" card all you want. But this is only an issue because its yet another way to stop the "wrong" people from being citizens.

It is about race and you're lying if you say it isn't.
It isn't.
 
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Greenman

Lifer
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It is for the deplorables, obviously.
No, it's really not. For me it's about two things. Allowing a great deal of people that are going to be a net drain into the country, and the way those people are exploited. I'm in an industry that employs a lot of illegals, employers like them because they don't have to pay them competitive wages, work them like slaves, and if they get hurt on the job you fire them. No workmens comp claims, not complaints to the LRB, no collecting unemployment, nothing. They get used and tossed when they are of no further use. That ain't right, and the easy way to stop it is for those people to come here legally so they're not afraid to stand up for themselves.

And just for the record, my entire family on my wife's side are those brown people you speak of.
 
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Vic

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No, it's really not. For me it's about two things. Allowing a great deal of people that are going to be a net drain into the country, and the way those people are exploited. I'm in an industry that employs a lot of illegals, employers like them because they don't have to pay them competitive wages, work them like slaves, and if they get hurt on the job you fire them. No workmens comp claims, not complaints to the LRB, no collecting unemployment, nothing. They get used and tossed when they are of no further use. That ain't right, and the easy way to stop it is for those people to come here legally so they're not afraid to stand up for themselves.

And just for the record, my entire family on my wife's side are those brown people you speak of.
ALL of those problems would be solved by granting citizenship to all of the illegal immigrants who proved themselves as otherwise law-abiding, worthy, and hard working members of society.
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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We are talking in circles and the Viper wants to make it a race issue.

I'm done. It isn't going to happen anyway, just like the 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere either.

No one has suggested that the 2nd amendment go away. That only exists in your mind, not reality.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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No one has suggested that the 2nd amendment go away. That only exists in your mind, not reality.


Yes, if conservatives want to repeal birthright citizenship then they need to come forward with what they will offer.

I would consider trading it for the repeal of the second amendment, that’s my opening offer.

Wrong. fskimospy did.
 

sdifox

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No mention of the caravan from Orange-Glow after midterm. I guess that gaslight has served its purpose.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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No mention of the caravan from Orange-Glow after midterm. I guess that gaslight has served its purpose.

Are we really sure they were not GOP hired crisis actors? They are the party of projection after all.

Hopefully Dump remembers to let the troops go back to their home bases and doesn't forget about them until 2020.
 

fskimospy

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No mention of the caravan from Orange-Glow after midterm. I guess that gaslight has served its purpose.

It’s odd that a mob of thousands, carrying smallpox, deadly gang members, terrorists, and worse that necessitated the deployment of 15,000 troops to hold them back no longer bears mentioning.

First of course it’s absolutely disgraceful that the president of the US resorted to blatant racist fearmongering instead of, you know, actually doing his job. Second, that all has real costs. He decided to spend millions of your tax dollars on a stunt designed to prevent him from losing at the ballot box. How is this not an outrage?
 
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brycejones

Lifer
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As of this morning there are zero stories about birthright citizenship or the caravan on the front page of foxnews.com.
 
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