President is really winding up the anti-immigrant crowd - order to end birthright citizenship

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Lifer
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-names-recipients-presidential-medal-freedom/
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President Donald J. Trump Names Recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom
Issued on: November 10, 2018

On Friday, November 16, 2018, President Donald J. Trump will award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to 7 distinguished individuals. This prestigious award is the Nation’s highest civilian honor, which may be awarded by the President to individuals who have made especially meritorious contributions to the security or national interests of the United States, to world peace, or to cultural or other significant public or private endeavors.

The following individuals will receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom:

MIRIAM ADELSON. Miriam Adelson is a committed doctor, philanthropist, and humanitarian. She has practiced internal and emergency medicine, studied and specialized in the disease of narcotic addiction, and founded two research centers committed to fighting substance abuse. With her husband, Sheldon, she also established the Adelson Medical Research Foundation, which supports research to prevent, reduce, or eliminate disabling and life-threatening illness. As a committed member of the American Jewish community, she has supported Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israel Defense Forces, and Birthright Israel, among other causes.
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Hmm.... Looks like Trump is giving medals for supporting Birthright... Israel.
Well imagine that. The wife of his biggest campaign contributor.
 

pcgeek11

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And we don't want to get rid of the 2A, we just want to amend it to make it clear that the right to own a gun is only allowed in the context of participating in a well regulated militia, with emphasis on the 'well regulated' part.

OK. And....
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-names-recipients-presidential-medal-freedom/
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President Donald J. Trump Names Recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom
Issued on: November 10, 2018

On Friday, November 16, 2018, President Donald J. Trump will award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to 7 distinguished individuals. This prestigious award is the Nation’s highest civilian honor, which may be awarded by the President to individuals who have made especially meritorious contributions to the security or national interests of the United States, to world peace, or to cultural or other significant public or private endeavors.

The following individuals will receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom:

MIRIAM ADELSON. Miriam Adelson is a committed doctor, philanthropist, and humanitarian. She has practiced internal and emergency medicine, studied and specialized in the disease of narcotic addiction, and founded two research centers committed to fighting substance abuse. With her husband, Sheldon, she also established the Adelson Medical Research Foundation, which supports research to prevent, reduce, or eliminate disabling and life-threatening illness. As a committed member of the American Jewish community, she has supported Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israel Defense Forces, and Birthright Israel, among other causes.
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Hmm.... Looks like Trump is giving medals for supporting Birthright... Israel.

Well, while I do appreciate your effort and enthusiasm, let's not spread false information either. Leave that for the Trump lovers.

OUR MISSION
Birthright Israel seeks to ensure that every eligible young Jewish adult around the world, especially the less connected, is given the opportunity to visit Israel on this educational journey.

Birthright Israel Foundation raises funds in the United States to support Birthright Israel, a program which currently provides 50,000 young Jewish adults the gift of an extraordinary educational trip to Israel.

Want to see the impact of the trip? Watch this short video and see how Birthright Israel is changing the Jewish future.
 

Vic

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Well imagine that. The wife of his biggest campaign contributor.
But.. but.. I thought Trump funded his campaigns with his money, that way he couldn't be bought by special interests.

LOL.. anyone remember when that was the Trumper narrative?
 

brycejones

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The horde is almost to the border, we better get started on that amendment process. The women are pregnant with 10 babies who are pregnant with like 10 other babies. Each woman is is carrying 100 future Dem voters if we don't act now.
 
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Read the other day.
President has tweeted zero times post election about birthright citizenships or the caravan.
Zero times, sad we have to gauge how committed the President is by his tweets.
I’m sure those military folks sent to guard the boarder will have a wonderful thanksgiving away from their families.
 

soundforbjt

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Read the other day.
President has tweeted zero times post election about birthright citizenships or the caravan.
Zero times, sad we have to gauge how committed the President is by his tweets.
I’m sure those military folks sent to guard the boarder will have a wonderful thanksgiving away from their families.
It would almost make you believe it was some sort of campaign stunt if anyone else BUT the President did it.

/s
 
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SMOGZINN

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While I agree that they will not amend the 2A, I do think the SCOTUS will eventually rule that the 'well regulated militia' part is important and that firearm ownership is limited to members of a well regulated militia. The number of mass murders are on the increase and this problem is not going to get better until we do something about it. More and more people are being personally effected by it, and unfortunately it seems that is what it takes for people to realize that it is a problem. The tipping point is coming. Society will change when it does.
 

SMOGZINN

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While I agree that they will not amend the 2A, I do think the SCOTUS will eventually rule that the 'well regulated militia' part is important and that firearm ownership is limited to members of a well regulated militia. The number of mass murders are on the increase and this problem is not going to get better until we do something about it. More and more people are being personally effected by it, and unfortunately it seems that is what it takes for people to realize that it is a problem. The tipping point is coming. Society will change when it does.
 

Jhhnn

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Read the other day.
President has tweeted zero times post election about birthright citizenships or the caravan.
Zero times, sad we have to gauge how committed the President is by his tweets.
I’m sure those military folks sent to guard the boarder will have a wonderful thanksgiving away from their families.

Donald chumped 'em again, just not well enough to hold the HOR. He'll run the same play again in 2 years, should he survive that long. And why not? GOP voters have been falling for it for decades, every 2 years like clockwork. You could damned near set your watch by it.
 

pcgeek11

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Why unfortunately? Do you want the 2a repealed? Or are you against the 14a's guarantees of due process and equal protection of the laws?


I think I have made my view quite clear in this thread about the 14th amendment and I'm not going to repeat myself here. You are welcome to go back and read it if you desire.

As for the 2nd amendment, No I think it is just fine the way it is. Gun laws and regulation do however need to be enforced along with improved background investigations. Some things need to be outlawed such as bump stocks, extended magazines ... I do not think a weapon should be outlawed because it "looks like" a military assault weapon.
 

SMOGZINN

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I do not think a weapon should be outlawed because it "looks like" a military assault weapon.

If that look is causing people to use it like a military assault weapon, to kill masses of people, then it might be worth outlawing it based on looks.

It really seems like a certain type of people, those most likely to cause a lot of harm, are drawn to those weapons because of the fantasy they represent. Maybe we as a society should not be accommodating of that fantasy? Maybe we should fund research to find out?
 

fskimospy

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If that look is causing people to use it like a military assault weapon, to kill masses of people, then it might be worth outlawing it based on looks.

It really seems like a certain type of people, those most likely to cause a lot of harm, are drawn to those weapons because of the fantasy they represent. Maybe we as a society should not be accommodating of that fantasy? Maybe we should fund research to find out?

While certain weapons are better suited to mass casualty events than others the depressing reality of gun violence in America is that most of it occurs with pretty pedestrian weapons. Sure we might be able to crack down on things like the Vegas shooting and that’s great, but the daily slaughter will continue until we fundamentally rethink things.
 

SMOGZINN

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While certain weapons are better suited to mass casualty events than others the depressing reality of gun violence in America is that most of it occurs with pretty pedestrian weapons. Sure we might be able to crack down on things like the Vegas shooting and that’s great, but the daily slaughter will continue until we fundamentally rethink things.

I generally agree. But as I said elsewhere, we don't have to solve it all at once. We can eat this elephant one bite at a time.
 

JSt0rm

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The horde is almost to the border, we better get started on that amendment process. The women are pregnant with 10 babies who are pregnant with like 10 other babies. Each woman is is carrying 100 future Dem voters if we don't act now.

the horrible truth is they have been practicing firing the babies out of their womb and directly onto american soil. It only requires a small mortar crew of 2 migrants to man the anchor baby machines.
 
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