President Obama endorses Hillary Clinton

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werepossum

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I suppose. I mean, I've never felt she was anywhere near getting indicted. But I suppose I could be wrong.

Maybe last night the USAG was tied to a chair in a room in some dark corner of the White House with a single light bulb in an Edison Screw spliced to some Romex coming out of the ceiling and the President was standing there sweaty in a white wife-beater and a pair of rolled up trousers with a bucket of vinegar and a vile of angry fire ants (are they ever --not-- angry?) saying "Well, Loretta, what are we going to do about our little email problem?"

I guess we'll never know. :\
Yeah . . . we kinda do know. lol

Even assuming this was a fire-breathing President Cruz (may G-d have mercy on my soul for typing those two words together) directing the FBI, and he really really really wanted to indict, what would he do about the Pubbies doing the same thing with their RNC server? Attacking the other side for doing what your side does is a whole 'nother ballgame from indicting the other side for doing what your side does.

I'm not saying Obama is influencing the investigation, I'm saying the investigation is influencing Obama.

he's a cautious guy, I can't see him endorsing Clinton without first putting out feelers to the FBI to see if that's a good idea or not... if he got a yellow light from the FBI, he could have come out saying he was going to stay neutral until the convention, or he could have given a merely perfunctory endorsement rather than a whole-hearted one.
Exactly. It's always possible that the FBI found something they simply could not ignore, a stained blue dress if you will, or egregious corruption at the Clinton Family Foundation, while conducting the investigation. First thing they would do is warn Obama. First rule of any organization is to not make the boss look bad. Ergo there is nothing (including real leaks) that is going to make Obama look bad to the great unwashed for whole-heartedly endorsing Hillary.
 

werepossum

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In order to say that you would have to believe that Obama is privy to information about the investigation. He is not nor should he be.
Not at all. Obama could be warned about political fallout from endorsing Hillary without getting any specifics. (Although I have no doubt in my mind that he IS getting specifics; there's a reason one nominates politically reliable people to such posts.)
 

Jhhnn

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This whole emailing thing is so petty. So petty.

Come on Republicans, let's bury her with some racist comments.

What have Repubs done since 2008 that wasn't petty? I mean, anything that wasn't outright chickenshit?
 

werepossum

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You seem to have a habit of needing to correct what you really meant to say.
No, he just has a habit of needing to correct stupid people who cannot understand what he clearly said. That's totally different.
 

ivwshane

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No, he just has a habit of needing to correct stupid people who cannot understand what he clearly said. That's totally different.

Yep, I'm an idiot because I don't know how to read minds. I guess that's why he had to clarify by adding extra words to what said for clarification. Clearly the words he left out were implied, clearly.
 

Jhhnn

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Not at all. Obama could be warned about political fallout from endorsing Hillary without getting any specifics. (Although I have no doubt in my mind that he IS getting specifics; there's a reason one nominates politically reliable people to such posts.)

Meh. The best part is the usual ravers going on with their half baked legal theories & innuendo.

I have a helluva time believing that Comey is corrupt or that he'd tolerate interference from above or from anybody. That's clear from his history-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey

I also have a helluva time believing that Obama wouldn't be smart enough to know that. Hell, that's likely a big part of why Obama appointed him.
 
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Stupid question, but when have any past presidents endorsed a candidate while still in office? Couldn't find anything with a quick Google.
 

Exophase

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Stupid question, but when have any past presidents endorsed a candidate while still in office? Couldn't find anything with a quick Google.

Yes, it's happened all of the past several times.

Bush II endorsing McCain: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/05/us/politics/05cnd-repubs.html
Clinton endorsing Gore: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/05/us/politics/05cnd-repubs.html
Reagan endorsing Bush I: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/12/us/reagan-endorses-bush-as-successor.html
Carter endorsing Mondale: http://www.nytimes.com/1983/08/31/us/mondale-warned-at-carter-meeting.html

Jonhson endorsing Humphrey is pretty common knowledge but that's going back far enough to where it's difficult to find a really easy direct quote. And I won't try going back even further than that.

In all the other cases the sitting president was also running.
 

Starbuck1975

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I am not sure why everyone is surprised he endorsed Clinton, even if he does know something about a pending adverse result to the FBI investigation. The lack of an endorsement would look even more suspect, and Obama is smart enough to have a Plan B to lead the party should the FBI investigation lead to the recommendation of indictment or otherwise results in a politically damaging result.
 
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Starbuck1975

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This whole emailing thing is so petty. So petty. Come on Republicans, let's bury her with some racist comments.
Benghazi was petty. If Judicial Watch continues for months or years after the FBI clears her of wrongdoing it would be petty. There is nothing petty or dismissive about the IG report or the active FBI investigation.

Is Clinton the greatest criminal mastermind in history? No. What she did was Nixon level stupidity.
 

Jhhnn

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Benghazi was petty. If Judicial Watch continues for months or years after the FBI clears her of wrongdoing it would be petty. There is nothing petty or dismissive about the IG report or the active FBI investigation.

Is Clinton the greatest criminal mastermind in history? No. What she did was Nixon level stupidity.

Hardly. Nixon level stupidity is illegal.

Every Repub sponsored "scandal" of the Obama presidency has been petty shit blown totally out of proportion.
 

Exophase

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I am not sure why everyone is surprised he endorsed Clinton, even if he does know something about a pending adverse result to the FBI investigation. The lack of an endorsement would look even more suspect, and Obama is smart enough to have a Plan B to lead the party should the FBI investigation lead to the recommendation of indictment or otherwise results in a politically damaging result.

I didn't think anyone was surprised.
 

Jhhnn

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I am not sure why everyone is surprised he endorsed Clinton, even if he does know something about a pending adverse result to the FBI investigation. The lack of an endorsement would look even more suspect, and Obama is smart enough to have a Plan B to lead the party should the FBI investigation lead to the recommendation of indictment or otherwise results in a politically damaging result.

Oh, please. It's been perfectly obvious for some while that indictments of Clinton or her close lieutenants will not be forthcoming. Well, other than for Clinton haters who'll apparently cling to anything.

If any of that were in question Obama would have held off endorsement until the convention when he basically has to commit.
 

MongGrel

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Hardly. Nixon level stupidity is illegal.

Every Repub sponsored "scandal" of the Obama presidency has been petty shit blown totally out of proportion.

Well, and a really large waste of money.

I'd like to have the kind of cash some of these guys are pulling in doing nothing more than obstructionism for the most part.
 

Starbuck1975

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Hardly. Nixon level stupidity is illegal.

Every Repub sponsored "scandal" of the Obama presidency has been petty shit blown totally out of proportion.
I didn't say Obama. I respect Obama. I believe he is a man of integrity and vision. I was referring to Clinton.
 

Jhhnn

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I didn't say Obama. I respect Obama. I believe he is a man of integrity and vision. I was referring to Clinton.

If you can see it in the way they treat Obama, why can't you see it in the way they treat Clinton?

It's just the same bullshit, different target.
 

Guurn

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Comey has already said he is doing no briefing with the president on the case.
 

ivwshane

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Because Obama is not under FBI investigation.

The way they treat Clinton didn't just start when the investigating started, it didn't start with Benghazi, it wasn't something new the Republicans tried when she was in the senate, it didn't even start when the Clinton's were in the white house. So I have to ask, are you not old enough to recall the forty plus years the Republicans have been doing this same shit to the Clinton's?
 
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