He is a martyr. I am sure his advisors and coaches told him what to say (or rather, what not to say), but if/when provoked, he cannot help himself. It's in his blood.
I realize he has to appeal to his base, but at times, he sounds like he's batshit crazy!!! At least a few weeks ago, he was talking about other things like bringing back jobs to America etc. Seems like he's done a complete 180. Did I mention he sounds like he's batrshit crazy?
It definitely is a problem. I think it's holdover from the days when getting a college degree in anything helped your job prospects quite a bit. For many people though, learning a trade might be a better approach than just kind of drifting through a 4 year college to get a degree in something that doesn't really help you at all.
He is a martyr. I am sure his advisors and coaches told him what to say (or rather, what not to say), but if/when provoked, he cannot help himself. It's in his blood.
In principle, it makes sense. A better educated population leads to a more productive economy, and hence higher economic growth.
but not all jobs require a college education, or that degree of learning. Should being a burger griller at Burger King require a university degree? Or being a street sweeper? 50% should go to university, but not literally everybody.
My god Santorum is a royal douche. If he were to actually win the Rep nomination it would be the final death blow of irrelevance and stupidity to the party.
Let's see you have a:
An irritated, acerbic has-been in Newt
A libertarianesque fringe half-loon with Paul
A certified religious nutbag and moron with Santorum
And a milquetoast moderate in Romney
How is Romney not destroying these guys?
And if Santorum had made THAT argument, he might have had a point. But instead of making a reasonable argument about why maybe everyone doesn't NEED to go to college, he took the anti-intellectual, faux outrage approach.
imo, there's definitely a problem in the overall educational system with teachers/guidance councilors looking down on CC/trade schools and encouraging everyone to go to 4 year colleges (regardless of their life plans)
I was floored when I saw the video of that earlier tonight on the local news. He is off his rocker. Whats even more pathetic is the Republican base was cheering him. They will talk about eliminating education and its brainwashing kids. The base will cheer him while the elite Republicans are giggling at how moronoic they are. This is no different from 5 years ago where they unemployed Republican factory worker was losing his job to the Chinese and was still voting Republican even though the Republican politicians where for outsourcing and claiming it was free market at work. Now its different... Its education they are going to attack. Lets further dumb our base down.
just like he want's everybody to own a house. How did that work out for ya??
:thumbsup: $28/hr at the local union and $42/hr in other areas. Demand is through the roof. SRS and Plant Vogtle need ~100 welders right now.When I decided to go to college I was 26 years old, married, 4 children and already had an established career in the welding field. My goal to go to college was to better myself, learn a second or third skill and hopefully improve my families standard of living.
My first college major was for legal assistant. After I got into the classes I learned I was going to have to get a 4 year degree to make the same amount of money I was already making welding.
Forget that, I changed my major.
Mr Santorum has a near fatal case of NObama. NObama is automatically being against anything Mr Obama supports and achieves. The Republicans have a speed of light reflex of NObama.
Now Mr Santorum is against everyone having an opportunity for higher education. Anybody remember the House Republicans being against extending the payroll taxcut?
:thumbsup: $28/hr at the local union and $42/hr in other areas. Demand is through the roof. SRS and Plant Vogtle need ~100 welders right now.
Community colleges play an important role in helping people transition between careers by providing the retooling they need to take on a new career.
We will put a college education within reach of anyone who wants to go
you should be able to send your children to college even if you're not rich
In a global economy where the most valuable skill you can sell is your knowledge, a good education is no longer just a pathway to opportunity--it is a prerequisite. And yet, we have one of the highest high school dropout rates of any industrialized nation. And half of the students who begin college never finish. This is a prescription for economic decline.
So tonight, I ask every American to commit to at least one year or more of higher education or career training. This can be community college or a four-year school; vocational training or an apprenticeship. But every American will need to get more than a high school diploma. And dropping out of high school is no longer an option. It's not just quitting on yourself, it's quitting on your country. That's why we will provide the support necessary for all young Americans to complete college and meet a new goal: By 2020, America will once again have the highest proportion of college graduates in the world.
In principle, it makes sense. A better educated population leads to a more productive economy, and hence higher economic growth.
but not all jobs require a college education, or that degree of learning. Should being a burger griller at Burger King require a university degree? Or being a street sweeper? 50% should go to university, but not literally everybody.
Here's all the quotes I can find by Obama talking about Americans and a college education. The last is closest to what Santorum is referring to but still isn't even close. It's a straw man.
Every time a republican discusses Obama, it seems you need to get straight whether this is the real Obama or the GOP-version, Obama 2.0: the caricature.
It still does help your job prospects quite a bit and you still make more on average.
No you don't need that education to do those jobs, but college and continued education is about more than just a job. It's about being able to make good decisions, seeing what else is out there,...
My first college major was for legal assistant. After I got into the classes I learned I was going to have to get a 4 year degree to make the same amount of money I was already making welding.
Forget that, I changed my major.
That's a whole lot of money spent on "being able to make good decisions". That sort of wisdom could be obtained by just reading books at the library or by purchasing select college textbooks and studying one one's own without paying the tuition dollars.
My son-in-law got a job as a helper on a construction site for a local refinery, he hired on at something like $22 or $23 an hour.
There seems to be a mindset that unless you go to college and get some massive student debt, your never going to make any money. In some parts of the nation that might be correct, but along the gulf coast there are lots of high paying jobs that can not find qualified people.
A couple of people I used to work with, they made anywhere from $75k - $100k on offshore drilling rigs. One guy worked on the offshore drilling rigs for 4 or 5 years, and in that time he was able to buy and pay for his home + several acres of land, and he was a high school drop out. Once he got his home paid for, he took a job working less overtime.