President of NAACP Spokane chapter outed as white woman

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dainthomas

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well she got paid 6 figures for pretending to be black..............LMAO..........naacp is just as stupid as she is.......

Yep, that's literally all she did. Just showed up at work every day all like "Hey everyone! Look how black I am!".
 

zinfamous

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I saw the headline at other sites but thought it was going to be how she was 1/10th white and people were not happy or something. Not she IS a white woman, let alone her look now.

same. I've only listened to this story in the background, and figured it had to be overblown or something....but looking at it now. This is hilarious.
 

v0id

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Like others in this thread, when I first heard about this story I thought there must be something we weren't hearing - what had happened in this woman's life to make her act this way?

I don't know if either of the following links explain her behavior, exactly, but they do add a lot of context. Apparently she was raised by fundamentalist home-schooling parents who may have attempted to cover up the sexual abuse of one of her adopted (black) sisters by her biological (white) brother when the sister was 6 or 7 and the brother was in his 20s. The BuzzFeed article below suggests that her attempt to become legal guardian of her adopted brother was also related to potential child abuse.

If she was abused herself as a child, and developed bizarre behavior as a result, this story starts looking a lot less weird.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/dolezal-alleged-abuse-scandal#.moNyYQKXE

https://homeschoolersanonymous.word...-dolezals-abusive-homeschooling-parents-want/
 

KeithP

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Only issue is that she, allegedly, lied about it -- I can think of a reason or two why.

According to this story, she also lied about her father...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ntify-Rachel-Dolezal-lying-deluded-idiot.html

In a previous interview earlier this year, Dolezal claimed her non-existent black father had to flee the Deep South after he assaulted a police officer who was attacking him.
She explained: ‘My dad’s exodus, the great migration to the North from the Deep South, where they left on the midnight train because a white officer harassed and threatened and was about to beat his dad with a billy club, and he whipped round and slapped the officer to his knees.’ Warming to her great, whopping, brazen lie, she added: ‘They got out of town because as a black family in the Deep South if you had any kind of negative altercation with a white cop where you stood up for yourself, it was gonna go badly for you.

and...

In the Today interview, she explained that her ‘identification with black people’ went back to when she was five years old.
‘I was drawing self-portraits with the brown crayon instead of the peach crayon, and the black curly hair.

Her parents claim that never happened.

-KeithP
 

Stopsignhank

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Scarpozzi

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I saw part of the Matt Lauer interview. When he quizzed her about her race, she kept using the phrase, "I identify as being black."

So, that's basically like saying, she was calling herself something...but the problem is race and color are both protected classes under Title VII of the 64 Civil Rights Act. (Sex is also listed under Title VII). This case is very much similar to when a transgendered person is hired and identifies as male or female when science and their birth certificate says otherwise.

In those cases, a lot of judges will side with employers, but being a certain sex can be an employment requirement for certain positions (server at hooters or male professional athlete, for example) Since she stepped down, they can't fire her, but she's going to have trouble finding someone to support her.

I'm not suggesting she didn't do her job and wasn't effective. I'm only stating that the color and race protected classes are what muddies the waters and are why the NAACP didn't fire her for falsifying her race on employment documents.
 
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yinan

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But even if she is white, isn't essentially being forced to quit your job because of race racism?
 

Phoenix86

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I saw part of the Matt Lauer interview. When he quizzed her about her race, she kept using the phrase, "I identify as being black."

So, that's basically like saying, she was calling herself something...but the problem is race and color are both protected classes under Title VII of the 64 Civil Rights Act. (Sex is also listed under Title VII). This case is very much similar to when a transgendered person is hired and identifies as male or female when science and their birth certificate says otherwise.

In those cases, a lot of judges will side with employers, but being a certain sex can be an employment requirement for certain positions (server at hooters or male professional athlete, for example) Since she stepped down, they can't fire her, but she's going to have trouble finding someone to support her.

I'm not suggesting she didn't do her job and wasn't effective. I'm only stating that the color and race protected classes are what muddies the waters and are why the NAACP didn't fire her for falsifying her race on employment documents.

It's a huge can of worms. People wanting to change their sex because they want to identify as someone else. Who am I to say otherwise? Specifically, I don't care the Caitlyn Jenner changed sex. Somehow I feel different with race, but really I'm not sure how I could justify that. I probably can't.

If we accept that people can self-identify as a sex, why not race?

The issue of course is the law and medical. Legally do we treat Caitlyn as a woman? Can she start a business and apply for contracts available to women business owners? Can she enter women's only sporting events? Is she protected under the CRA as a woman?

Now translate all those questions to race, even bigger issues arise. Can she self-identify as an American Indian and apply for benefits?

What happens when someone self-identifies as a other race or sex at a hospital?
 

waggy

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It's a huge can of worms. People wanting to change their sex because they want to identify as someone else. Who am I to say otherwise? Specifically, I don't care the Caitlyn Jenner changed sex. Somehow I feel different with race, but really I'm not sure how I could justify that. I probably can't.

If we accept that people can self-identify as a sex, why not race?

The issue of course is the law and medical. Legally do we treat Caitlyn as a woman? Can she start a business and apply for contracts available to women business owners? Can she enter women's only sporting events? Is she protected under the CRA as a woman?

Now translate all those questions to race, even bigger issues arise. Can she self-identify as an American Indian and apply for benefits?

What happens when someone self-identifies as a other race or sex at a hospital?


As it is a male can identified as a female and use the gym changing room. People here on ATOT have said that's fine and we need to get over it. to the point those that disagreed were called names on it. So as they said "what if's" don't matter.

So if i have to accept a grown man using a females changing room with my daughter people are going to have to accept trans-race. IF you do not accept it you are a racist.
 

Phoenix86

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As it is a male can identified as a female and use the gym changing room. People here on ATOT have said that's fine and we need to get over it. to the point those that disagreed were called names on it. So as they said "what if's" don't matter.

So if i have to accept a grown man using a females changing room with my daughter people are going to have to accept trans-race. IF you do not accept it you are a racist.

Changing rooms are an issue, but one that could easily be dealt with. Provide private unisex bathrooms and changing areas. I could counter and say it's silly to have these in public but same-sex view to begin with.

You can't undo decades of legislation and court rulings so easily.
 

Rustler

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it's a huge can of worms. People wanting to change their sex because they want to identify as someone else. Who am i to say otherwise? Specifically, i don't care the caitlyn jenner changed sex. Somehow i feel different with race, but really i'm not sure how i could justify that. I probably can't.

If we accept that people can self-identify as a sex, why not race?

The issue of course is the law and medical. Legally do we treat caitlyn as a woman? Can she start a business and apply for contracts available to women business owners? Can she enter women's only sporting events? Is she protected under the cra as a woman?

Now translate all those questions to race, even bigger issues arise. Can she self-identify as an american indian and apply for benefits?

What happens when someone self-identifies as a other race or sex at a hospital?

yep.......................................................................join the bat shit crazy club...
 

polarmystery

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As a bi-racial child myself (black dad, white mom), she is by far the biggest moron I've ever seen on TV in my entire life, or in general.

As my brethren would say, "Bitch you white!"
 

OutHouse

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we are through the looking glass. black is white, male is female, bad-guys are good, cops are bad, trump running, cats & dogs living together in sin.
 

Muse

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Doesn't this bear some relation to all the transgender stuff going on?
 

LegendKiller

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Doesn't this bear some relation to all the transgender stuff going on?

Yes, to the extent that even CNN writers are starting to say we need to accept her since she has the "right" to be whatever she wants.

Ahhh, the hilarity of the completely predictable slippery slope.

You can be whatever you want to be and not a single person can come up with any valid reason why you can't be, otherwise they are labeled as a bigot.
 

highland145

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Doesn't this bear some relation to all the transgender stuff going on?
She and Bruce are gonna hook up. Bruce has saved his sperm. Once he's switched, she will be impregnated so they will have a bi racial, bisexual, GLBT trans waffle iron family that they can make millions on a reality show. The kid can sign up for every entitlement program.
 

KentState

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Yes, to the extent that even CNN writers are starting to say we need to accept her since she has the "right" to be whatever she wants.

Ahhh, the hilarity of the completely predictable slippery slope.

You can be whatever you want to be and not a single person can come up with any valid reason why you can't be, otherwise they are labeled as a bigot.

Bill summed it up best.
It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
 

Blanky

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Would be entertaining to see how damn quickly this sprints up to SCOTUS if enough students start calling themselves african american on certain affirmative action applications and the students are not black whatsoever.
 
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