President.....Who?

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werepossum

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You might want to have someone explain to you the meaning of the word "racist". To the extent that race (a human construct to identify sub-group populations with differences not rising to the level of sub-species) even applies to humans, "Muslim" is not a race. Someone who distrusts or even hates all Muslims, much less the worst aspects of the religion, is not necessarily a racist any more than a Muslim who feels that all non-Muslims should be killed, converted or enslaved.

A racist is one who believes that one particular race is inherently superior or inferior in and of itself. One who believes that African cultures are inherently inferior to some (or all) other cultures is not necessarily a racist. One who feels that someone of African ancestry is inherently inferior to those of other ancestry regardless of his/her culture or beliefs is by definition a racist, as is someone who feels that someone of African ancestry is inherently superior to those of other ancestry regardless of his/her culture or beliefs. If you wish to play in the big boy pool, learn your terms. The race card has lost almost all its effect because of people like you, which is a damn shame because sometimes it still needs to be played.
 

a777pilot

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President.....Who?
Come 20 JAN 2013 who would you like to see become the 45th President of these United States?

Do not limit yourself to those that are actually running. But, do limit yourself to those that are eligible, i.e., no dead people.

I'll start:

Allen West.


I would like to change my vote.

I would like to change it to: Joe Lieberman, with Allen West as VP.
 
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John Hagee for president.
Paul Wolfowitz as VP.
Richard Perle as the left hand man.

Then **** and ***** will be happy and get everything they desire.
Including loss of loved ones.
 

YoungGun21

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You might want to have someone explain to you the meaning of the word "racist". To the extent that race (a human construct to identify sub-group populations with differences not rising to the level of sub-species) even applies to humans, "Muslim" is not a race. Someone who distrusts or even hates all Muslims, much less the worst aspects of the religion, is not necessarily a racist any more than a Muslim who feels that all non-Muslims should be killed, converted or enslaved.

A racist is one who believes that one particular race is inherently superior or inferior in and of itself. One who believes that African cultures are inherently inferior to some (or all) other cultures is not necessarily a racist. One who feels that someone of African ancestry is inherently inferior to those of other ancestry regardless of his/her culture or beliefs is by definition a racist, as is someone who feels that someone of African ancestry is inherently superior to those of other ancestry regardless of his/her culture or beliefs. If you wish to play in the big boy pool, learn your terms. The race card has lost almost all its effect because of people like you, which is a damn shame because sometimes it still needs to be played.

Bullshit. Sorry that you are tripping over the definitions of terms. Racism, extremism, supremacism - they are applied to a GROUP of people. Who gives a shit that racism, when taken literally, means the color of a persons skin? In context, you get exactly what I mean, and my use isn't wrong.

However, it doesn't really matter. Racism is just another form of ignorance and hatred. So whether I call him a racist or islamophobic, the shit he is spewing and the way he acts is still the same.

As for the bolded part of your first post, I'm not saying that either of those people would be more or less racist/extremist/whatever-the-fuck-term-will-make-you-understand. I'm saying that they are both ignorant fuck sticks that need to be educated on other cultures.

To the other idiot that said I was making a777hatesmuslims look smart...that's impossible and you know it.
 

a777pilot

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Hey YounGun21, where are we suppose to leave? You never answered.

How many different countries have you been to? How many people of another culture have you married? Have any half white children?

Oh, to be young and so full of all the knowledge of the world.

p.s., If you are so liberal, why the use of the word "gun" in your name? Ever used a gun?
 

YoungGun21

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Hey YounGun21, where are we suppose to leave? You never answered.

How many different countries have you been to? How many people of another culture have you married? Have any half white children?

Oh, to be young and so full of all the knowledge of the world.

p.s., If you are so liberal, why the use of the word "gun" in your name? Ever used a gun?

1. The middle east

2. I'm not married and I have zero children

3. Yes I've shot plenty of guns. I own a Benelli Super Nova pump 20g and I have shot several other shotguns, pistols, and assault rifles. I don't see where you were going with that. I'm not even for gun control, and have never stated that I was.

Lastly, since when did the only options become liberal or muslim-killer?
 

a777pilot

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1. The middle east

2. I'm not married and I have zero children

3. Yes I've shot plenty of guns. I own a Benelli Super Nova pump 20g and I have shot several other shotguns, pistols, and assault rifles. I don't see where you were going with that. I'm not even for gun control, and have never stated that I was.

Lastly, since when did the only options become liberal or muslim-killer?

I'm happy to hear you are a supporter of the Second Amendment. That's a good thing. As to the polar opposites of liberal and killer. I'm fuckin with you. I would think you would have caught on by now.

Leave the middle east? Why? The only reason we were there in the first place was to free a muslim country from Iraq. After that war we departed Saudi Arabia. We had a minimum footprint there till 9/11. Besides that we can go anywhere we need to if threatened, it's in our national interest or asked to come in, as we were in Gulf War I. I wonder how old you were during that war? I had been retired from the Marine Corps just over a year when that war started. Many Marines that participated in that war, I trained. They did a magnificent job. I am very proud of them.
 

YoungGun21

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We have bases in Eastern Europe and Asia and Korea. We have ships that can chill out not too far away. We have submarines that could sit on their doorstep for months just waiting to be provoked, we don't need troops on the ground in the middle east. At least, not Iraq. We still maintain bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, do we not? Are those not enough? If there are no troops there to kill, then no troops get killed. In addition to saving lives, it cuts costs. We could increase troop counts in the bases surrounding the area. It would be more efficient in many ways, especially cost. This is simple accounting, establishing a base is a fixed cost, the amount of troops there is a variable cost. If we stop establishing new bases, shut down the ones we don't need, and shuffle troops around in more efficient places, we spend less.

You're all for cutting spending right?

As for my pick for the thread, which I never said, I pick Arnold Schwarzenegger
 

a777pilot

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We have bases in Eastern Europe and Asia and Korea. We have ships that can chill out not too far away. We have submarines that could sit on their doorstep for months just waiting to be provoked, we don't need troops on the ground in the middle east. At least, not Iraq. We still maintain bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, do we not? Are those not enough? If there are no troops there to kill, then no troops get killed. In addition to saving lives, it cuts costs. We could increase troop counts in the bases surrounding the area. It would be more efficient in many ways, especially cost. This is simple accounting, establishing a base is a fixed cost, the amount of troops there is a variable cost. If we stop establishing new bases, shut down the ones we don't need, and shuffle troops around in more efficient places, we spend less.

You're all for cutting spending right?

As for my pick for the thread, which I never said, I pick Arnold Schwarzenegger

We do NOT have any bases in Saudi Arabia.

Yes, I am all for spending cuts, to include the military.

We should bring a lot of our troops and equipment home.

I have been saying ever since the Bush Administration failed to support the attack on Tora Bora that we ought to be out of Afghanistan. We ought to be in Iran and Pakistan. Iran is the center of gravity of this current muislim war. Russia and China are the facilitators of Iran.
 
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