Presidential Debate #1

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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Joe is throwing factual numbers out, Trump is going with petulant indignation and name dropping to smear by association.

I knew he was going to make a fool out of himself, I didn't think he'd be this bad right out the gate. Wow. This is why you prep kids, this is why idiots should never wing it.
Well, look at the asses he chose to prep him: Chris Christie and Rudy Gulliani. With dickhead fucks like that as coaches he was ripe for roasting.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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He's right, though. California does a lousy job of managing their forests.
You do know that something like 57% of the forests in CA are on FEDERAL LAND and just 3% by CA state and local agencies, right?

"Of the approximately 33 million acres of forest in California, federal agencies (including the USDA Forest Service and USDI Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service) own and manage 19 million acres (57%). State and local agencies including CalFire, local open space, park and water districts and land trusts own another 3%. 40% of California's forestland is owned by families, Native American tribes, or companies. Industrial timber companies own 5 million acres (14%). 9 million acres are owned by individuals with nearly 90% of these owners having less than 50 acres of forest land."
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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Dude, pandemic is dying, despite the economy being opened when it was "raging". Your shit is old, played out by the dems for months now. Lets open that shit back up the day after the election, THAT is the perfect time to open it back up!!! LOL, you can't make up dumber shit that people will still believe....

That's an outright lie about the pandemic & the reasons for restrictions.

 
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woolfe9998

Lifer
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LOL, like I was going to tell her that then, she was really pissed off. Joe did some mudslinging too, instead of directly answering questions - as a teacher, that kind of thing drives her nuts.
Trump's incessant interrupting had the same effect. Anyway, she'll come around. As to your point, yes, I believe it is Trump's team plan to get people turned off and tuned out. It will probably work.

I think it's going to fire up democrats more. As for undecideds, if they all sat home, Biden wins.
 

alien42

Lifer
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Just learn how to shoot it first, please? Untrained people with a gun are more likely to hurt themselves than an intruder in a home defense situation.

i don't own a gun but am a great shot and know how to safely handle a gun. meanwhile, we had a customer at my job just last year who shot themselves in the thigh trying to unload their gun in their car before getting on a flight.

ie, your assumptions are a joke.
 
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SaltyNuts

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Where are all these antifa and BLM murder victims? Again, multiple cops have been killed, shot and also numerous protesters killed and shot by right wing vigilantes.





and of course the famous kyle rittenhouse.

There was one proud boy shot and killed in portland but knowing how they behaved there, he instigated it, and we'll never know because the so-called suspect was summarily executed by police.


I don't know, just looking at those titles you linked I didn't see these "Proud Boys" mentioned even once? Seems to me you are trying to associate some random guys with guns with some unaffilated group. Maybe we should associate all crimes by black people with BLM? Oh, SNAP!!!! Stop.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. Just youtube it. BLM and Antifa are doing 1000x more damage and killing way more people than these "proud boys" could ever do. If you think otherwise you've been blinded by CNN. Let me guess, you think right-wingers are driving these major riots in many big cities across the country? C'mon man, at some point intelligence has to wake up and rise above CNN dumb brainwashing...
 

fskimospy

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I don't know, just looking at those titles you linked I didn't see these "Proud Boys" mentioned even once? Seems to me you are trying to associate some random guys with guns with some unaffilated group. Maybe we should associate all crimes by black people with BLM? Oh, SNAP!!!! Stop.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. Just youtube it. BLM and Antifa are doing 1000x more damage and killing way more people than these "proud boys" could ever do. If you think otherwise you've been blinded by CNN. Let me guess, you think right-wingers are driving these major riots in many big cities across the country? C'mon man, at some point intelligence has to wake up and rise above CNN dumb brainwashing...

JUST YOUTUBE IT. HAHAHAHA.

Oh man please stick around. We are going to have so much fun.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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Fitting that a train wreck of a President running a dumpster fire of an administration showed up to a debate and embraced white supremacy.

Frankly Trump needed to do better than show up at a debate and refuse to debate when he's so far behind Biden in the polls. Who decided that an avalanche of lies was the best strategy?

Its not 2016 anymore, we know who Trump is, and we know how incompetent he is and how much he lies. No need to flog a dead horse.
 

Moonbeam

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You do know that something like 57% of the forests in CA are on FEDERAL LAND and just 3% by CA state and local agencies, right?

"Of the approximately 33 million acres of forest in California, federal agencies (including the USDA Forest Service and USDI Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service) own and manage 19 million acres (57%). State and local agencies including CalFire, local open space, park and water districts and land trusts own another 3%. 40% of California's forestland is owned by families, Native American tribes, or companies. Industrial timber companies own 5 million acres (14%). 9 million acres are owned by individuals with nearly 90% of these owners having less than 50 acres of forest land."
The forests will die from climate change as well as the coast lines. The 1% will retreat to their greenhouses.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Jesus, this is a train wreck for Trump. He's somehow even more pathetic than I expected.
He surprises again and again. No one knows how low this guy can go. We've seen that again and again. I refuse to pay attention to him, but I had to watch all of this, and the response from NBC after it was over. Melania goes out there in her spike heels to her man, looking like a hireling on a game show. This is super weird. NBC analysts are saying their seeing serious discussion of it maybe being a good idea for Biden to cancel the other two debates now.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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For those of you who constantly defend Trump...

Tweets coming in from parents who's kids watched their first debate. Parents were appalled. Some kids ran out of the room.

How do you teach your kids this is not supposed to be normal? Now's your chance people who claim Trump's behavior doesn't matter. What do you say to kids?

Parents should not have let their kids watch this debate for the same reason they shouldn't let their kids watch pornography. Trump's version of "debate" is political pornography, just like his twitter feed.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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Feb 26, 2009
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I don't know, just looking at those titles you linked I didn't see these "Proud Boys" mentioned even once? Seems to me you are trying to associate some random guys with guns with some unaffilated group. Maybe we should associate all crimes by black people with BLM? Oh, SNAP!!!! Stop.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. Just youtube it. BLM and Antifa are doing 1000x more damage and killing way more people than these "proud boys" could ever do. If you think otherwise you've been blinded by CNN. Let me guess, you think right-wingers are driving these major riots in many big cities across the country? C'mon man, at some point intelligence has to wake up and rise above CNN dumb brainwashing...
Hey look, Veritas sent over a foot soldier to champion Fake News Matters!
 
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SaltyNuts

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You don’t have to take my word for it, you can look at the other countries that controlled the virus better - their economies bounced back much more robustly for exactly the reason I said.

Anyone with a brain knew that controlling the virus was the way to revive the economy, the only problem is that Trump is both stupid and incompetent. Because he knew the problem was too hard for someone of his limited abilities he decided to try and shift blame instead of solve the problem. That’s why we are where we are. Our president is a dummy, lol.


You don't get it. This is not China where you can just invoke martial law and order freaking EVERYONE to stay home for two weeks and if they violate have some unmarked truck pick them up and drop them in an incinerator. That could never happen. And closing down the economy has ruined far, far more lives than the virus has, which virus, it turns out, is about as deadly overall as the flue, probably less so with the inflated numbers. But the democrats have said the day after the election is the PERFECT time for everyone to go back to work!!! Dude, at some point you have to stop believing the stupid hype and wake up...
 

brandonbull

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May 3, 2005
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Where are all these antifa and BLM murder victims? Again, multiple cops have been killed, shot and also numerous protesters killed and shot by right wing vigilantes.





and of course the famous kyle rittenhouse.

There was one proud boy shot and killed in portland but knowing how they behaved there, he instigated it, and we'll never know because the so-called suspect was summarily executed by police.

 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Fitting that a train wreck of a President running a dumpster fire of an administration showed up to a debate and embraced white supremacy.

Frankly Trump needed to do better than show up at a debate and refuse to debate when he's so far behind Biden in the polls. Who decided that an avalanche of lies was the best strategy?

Its not 2016 anymore, we know who Trump is, and we know how incompetent he is and how much he lies. No need to flog a dead horse.

A lot of Trump supporters from 2016 are still Trump supporters. The ones who've seen the light and won't vote for him, or people like me who never would vote for him. There's zero he could say in a 2nd debate that would change my mind. His core will stay his core no matter how much bullshit he spews. The only positive I can say about him, he gives zero fucks about trying to win over the few % of swing voters. It's shocking how bad his performance was tonight, I expected a shit show. But he outdid himself. I just watched bits and pieces but it was enough to know how the rest of it went.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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I don't know, just looking at those titles you linked I didn't see these "Proud Boys" mentioned even once? Seems to me you are trying to associate some random guys with guns with some unaffilated group. Maybe we should associate all crimes by black people with BLM? Oh, SNAP!!!! Stop.

I'm not going to do your homework for you. Just youtube it. BLM and Antifa are doing 1000x more damage and killing way more people than these "proud boys" could ever do. If you think otherwise you've been blinded by CNN. Let me guess, you think right-wingers are driving these major riots in many big cities across the country? C'mon man, at some point intelligence has to wake up and rise above CNN dumb brainwashing...

I didn't post a thing from CNN. Also, I'm talking right wing/white nationalist types in general. Why should I have to go search YouTube to find your source of some methed out right winger spouting nonsense about Antifa and BLM going on murder sprees when you could link a reputable source instead?
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Hmmmmm, let's see, who has been rioting, causing millions of dollars of property damage, and killing innocent Americans over the last several months? Was that BLM and Antifa? No, no, that was the proud boys. You are right. LOL.

Trump has killed more innocent Americans in the past six months than Vietnam, Korea, and 9/11 combined.
 
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alien42

Lifer
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This?




Right, because bars and restaurants were all that were closed. All that stopped going to work. Nothing else shut down at all. Dense, this one.

before he was killed he said he was anti fascist but had nothing to do with Antifa. you are a complete moron, on ignore you go.

the fact is that the Antifa movement doesn't believe in violence against other humans. they may be down with rioting and general anarchy, but harming people isn't their schtick.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Hmmmmm, let's see, who has been rioting, causing millions of dollars of property damage, and killing innocent Americans over the last several months? Was that BLM and Antifa? No, no, that was the proud boys. You are right. LOL.

Good point, Trump has lost total control of the country, and doesn't know how to fix it.
 
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