Presidential Debate #1

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just waiting to see how the debate will affect the polls.

don't think it'll be good for trump.
I don't think there will be any impact. There was nothing last night to sway anyone undecided. perhaps his conduct might but I don't see it.
 
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pauldun170

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As expected FoxNews is batshit nuts.
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Moonbeam

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Harris will eviscerate Pence. I want to see that, also the mopping up by the custodian of Pence's guts.
When you say guts you mean the alimentary canal of a Trump sycophant anus pinworm, the totality of what that worthless farthing consists of other than that smug self righteous holier than Thou silly smirk and stance he puts on when photographed. Poor lost soul, trying so hard to pretend to dignity as a theater prop., a ruching piece of cardboard. The man screams, “wipe your feet here.”
 

UNCjigga

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Did you actually sit through the entire thing? I managed less than half an hour (and that includes the introduction) before I got annoyed and turned it off. Trump is simply rude, and I can't get past that.

I only made it 12 minutes before I turned the volume down, popped my faux AirPods in and fired up Green Day (you know the song) and started nightly chores.
 

Greenman

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Still the guy you want as president (compared to Biden)?
Tough call. Neither of them have what I would like to see in a president. So It comes down to deciding which part of the turd tastes the best. All said and done, I find Joe less annoying, so he gets the nod.
 

fskimospy

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Harris will eviscerate Pence. I want to see that, also the mopping up by the custodian of Pence's guts.
Maybe, but to me the more likely outcome is basically a draw where people marvel at how Pence held his own against Harris' supposed superiority.

The format is such that it's really easy to basically filibuster and not say much of substance. Campaigns know this, it's one of the reasons why they are always trying to lower expectations for their person and raise them for the other guy.
 

UNCjigga

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I don't think there will be any impact. There was nothing last night to sway anyone undecided. perhaps his conduct might but I don't see it.

I’m going with the Axelrod/Yang take—not only did Trump fail to offer anything substantial for the voters he needs (undecideds and suburban women) but he also risked tempering any enthusiasm from reliable Republicans—something that could affect downballot races if they sit this one out. The lead-in from the Amy Coney Barrett nomination was like the perfect pass, and Trump whiffed the easy layup.
 
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HomerJS

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Tough call. Neither of them have what I would like to see in a president. So It comes down to deciding which part of the turd tastes the best. All said and done, I find Joe less annoying, so he gets the nod.
Just curious, what about Biden do you find abhorrent? You indicated they are both turds so I want to know you think they compare.
 

Starbuck1975

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If we look at it this way, though, Biden won simply by preventing Trump from gaining any points. It's Biden's election to lose, and he didn't screw things up.
Biden also loses if enthusiasm wanes. Will be interesting to see how the polls respond.
 

hal2kilo

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When you say guts you mean the alimentary canal of a Trump sycophant anus pinworm, the totality of what that worthless farthing consists of other than that smug self righteous holier than Thou silly smirk and stance he puts on when photographed. Poor lost soul, trying so hard to pretend to dignity as a theater prop., a ruching piece of cardboard. The man screams, “wipe your feet here.”
Putting them Zim gloves on I see.
 

Starbuck1975

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I notice your grading system. You indicated both were equally bad while saying the following about Biden...


Clearly we did not watch the same debate.
Numerous articles evaluating the debate call Biden out for stooping to Trump’s level given that one of Biden’s selling points is to restore professionalism to the Presidency. I think CNN does a good job of assessing debates, and their analysis aligns with mine.

“c’mon man, idiot, clown, shut up”
 

ivwshane

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Just curious, what about Biden do you find abhorrent? You indicated they are both turds so I want to know you think they compare.

His comment exposes trumps plan all along. Trump knew he couldn’t beat Biden on the merits so he simply dragged down the debate to a new low. When you are a turd you throw shit and when it’s all said and done you claim everyone has shit on them.

Intellectually lazy people, aka both side bitches, instead of recognizing who started the shit show they throw up their hands and say they both suck because they both have shit on them.
 

dank69

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Numerous articles evaluating the debate call Biden out for stooping to Trump’s level given that one of Biden’s selling points is to restore professionalism to the Presidency. I think CNN does a good job of assessing debates, and their analysis aligns with mine.

“c’mon man, idiot, clown, shut up”
Fuck professionalism. The gloves should have been off decades ago.
 
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HomerJS

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Numerous articles evaluating the debate call Biden out for stooping to Trump’s level given that one of Biden’s selling points is to restore professionalism to the Presidency. I think CNN does a good job of assessing debates, and their analysis aligns with mine.

“c’mon man, idiot, clown, shut up”
So if someone continuously hits you below the belt when you hit them back once both are equally bad?

I just happen to disagree with that assessment.
 

VRAMdemon

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Trump was basically his out-of-control rage monster self. Should Biden bother to participate in this hot mess two more times? Biden will most likely have to suffer through them because if he doesn’t Trump will claim that Biden has had a stroke and is unable to speak, or some other lie.

Absent a ball gag, Biden cannot come out ahead in a “debate” with Trump. Either Biden lowers himself to Trumps level and loses respect among his own supporters, or he lets Trump break all the rules…which gives Trump exactly what he wants-a free live Trump rally broadcast over several channels.

Biden is in a spot where he has to see them through, because the Trump spin machine will cast any backing down as weakness and fear. Biden needs to remain steady and likeable, and barb Trump enough to get him to go full on Trump… which is only feeding the base, but turning off everyone else. Town hall will suit Biden much better in this regard, Trump can’t deal with anyone not kissing his ass.
 

VRAMdemon

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Lol ... CNN talked to a handful of "undecided" voters in Westerville OH after the debates and they all seem very very disappointed in Biden for having called Trump a clown.

Jesus christ! ... If you followed the debate and Biden calling Trump a clown is the part that disappointed you, then you are either lying about being undecided, or you are an idiot.
 
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