Presidential Debate #1

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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Maybe he doesn’t know, because he isn’t president and talking with advisors whom he’d actually listen to about what to do about that situation.
The man has spent four decades in politics and 8 years as VP, its a question he should be well equipped to answer with perfect clarity
 

Papagayo

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Jul 28, 2003
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Well, that in itself should cement your decision. We want a trustworthy person in the White House, we need that. End of story.

No lifer politicians are trustworthy..
They tell you what you want to hear and never keeps promises..
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Then he should have no reservations or hesitation in stating as much
He wasn't perfect, but I think it was a loaded question. He had nothing to gain by answering and I think his not answering to that was wise and canny. He did show a lot of restraint last night. I don't know how much of that was planned, but overall he did great.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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My perception is just fine, I appreciate the concern
Don't be so sure:

"How do you know but every bird that cuts the airy way is not an immense world of delight closed to the senses five?" - William Blake, from The Marriage of Heaven and Hell
 
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And yet here we are with the "successful" "businessman" "outsider" who's going to "shake things up" as President being more dishonest and untrustworthy than any "lifer politician" of my lifetime.

...But if you can't tell by now - THAT is why Trump was elected to begin with.

They got tired of 20+ years of electing establishment plutocrats and simply said "Eh, fuck it - maybe he change something. God knows voting for the same thing won't"




But... you know... those who don't learn form the past are damned to repeat it... so keep on chugging along with the self-ignorance.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Americans should take Mr. Natural's advice (R. Crumb creation) and throw their TV's out the window. They bought The Apprentice, saving Trump from yet another bankruptcy. Then Trump parlayed the celebrity into the White House because his audience never saw the marked cards Trump has dealt all along. If he's not out of the White House after this I'm gonna be looking to relocate.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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...But if you can't tell by now - THAT is why Trump was elected to begin with.

They got tired of 20+ years of electing establishment plutocrats and simply said "Eh, fuck it - maybe he change something. God knows voting for the same thing won't"




But... you know... those who don't learn form the past are damned to repeat it... so keep on chugging along with the self-ignorance.

Lol trump is the same thing, he’s purest republican ever and embodies everything they stand for. The only difference is that he wasn’t trying to hide it like most republicans try to do.
 
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Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Just put everyone on ignore that disagrees with your opinion.

Then you will live in blissful harmony where everyone loves you and agrees with everything you say. No one will ever dare disagree or give you criticism on your amazing opinions that have zero factual basis.

Good ol' confirmation bias at its finest.


Hey by the way - have you considered joining the bubble?



Dude.. people don't put you on ignore because they disagree with you. They put you on ignore because you're an asshole who mistakes shit talking and namecalling for facts and intelligent argument. This post of yours here being a typical example.
 

Vic

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...But if you can't tell by now - THAT is why Trump was elected to begin with.

They got tired of 20+ years of electing establishment plutocrats and simply said "Eh, fuck it - maybe he change something. God knows voting for the same thing won't"




But... you know... those who don't learn form the past are damned to repeat it... so keep on chugging along with the self-ignorance.

Yeah, like the born with a platinum spoon in his mouth New York real estate billionaire isn't an establishment plutocrat.

Just admit that you fell for Trump's con and move on.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Then Biden should have no problem answering where he stands on packing the Supreme Court, which is a legitimate question for him to answer.
You expect that a need to slime basis is reason for you to have an answer. It is not. He would have no trouble at all answering but you wouldn't be able to understand a word he said. You already believe you know the only answer he can give, the one that comports with low level thinking. My job is to inform you that you are not up to speed. It's not my job to bring you there. It's the last place you want to go. The truth hides itself from fools by instantly appearing to be unlikely unlikely, not conforming to a fools expectations.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Just put GotNoMindAtAll on ignore, it'll calm your nerves.
I have nobody on ignore. Anything that upsets me does so because it triggers some aspect of my own self hate. Any successful agitators are powerful learning tools. The hard part is trying to get to what it is they really might make me feel. For training in that I used to have access to a padded cell. And nobody can stand to be with me when I drive. The highways are full of people who have no right to be alive and if it weren't for window glass, car noise and distance they would all know it.

In the sea there are treasures beyond compare but if you seek safety it is on the shore.
 
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Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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I have nobody on ignore. Anything that upsets me does so because it triggers some aspect of my own self hate. Any successful agitators are powerful learning tools. The hard part is trying to get to what it is they really might make me feel. For training in that I used to have access to a padded cell. And nobody can stand to be with me when I drive. The highways are full of people who have no right to be alive and if it weren't for window glass, car noise and distance they would all know it.

In the sea there are treasures beyond compare but if you seek safety it is on the shore.

I've almost never use it, but completely obnoxious posters that make no effort to make contributions will get me to push the button.

Sometimes there is no option other than to cut the mic
 
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Yeah, like the born with a platinum spoon in his mouth New York real estate billionaire isn't an establishment plutocrat.

Just admit that you fell for Trump's con and move on.

I didn't vote for him - so no - I didn't fall for it.

I fully admit he is your typical rich snob.

The difference is he didn't have a 20+ year history of the same old same old unlike his establishment competition.


Again - you still can't see your own self-ignorance and continue to just harp on shit as if I support Trump... voted for him... plan to vote for him... etc... I don't.
 
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