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Aharami

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: byung
Originally posted by: FoBoT
the world will view a Kerry win as American weakness, that we don't want to stand up to terrorists and they will disregard us and the enemies of America will be enboldened to attack us again and with greater force

Have you been watching the debate at all?

i was thinking the same. Bush totally fumbled on this one. Kerry spoke about building stronger alliances. SO in other countries' views, Kerry is the better president. Bush will just Bomb Bomb Bomb
 

Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: FoBoT
its a tie and Kerry can't afford a tie


check the polls in the swing states, this election will not be as close as 2000 was

its not a tie. Kerry clearly won this debate
 

iamme

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Jul 21, 2001
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i hope this isn't a loaded question (i missed a good portion of the debate), but what will happen IF Kerry becomes president? Will he withdraw all the troops in Iraq?

He made it clear that HE thinks the war isn't right, and he was in favor of "diplomacy" first. Did he mention what he was going to do?
 

dbk

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Apr 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Kerry came off as a freaking snob

Did you not catch Bush's reaction shots???!!! Kerry was very still, sometimes seen taking notes, nodding, etc, quite different from Bush's behavior.
 

Isshinryu

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May 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: byung
Originally posted by: Chadder007
Kerry came off as a freaking snob

Did you not catch Bush's reaction shots???!!! Kerry was very still, sometimes seen taking notes, nodding, etc, quite different from Bush's behavior.

....or laughing, shaking his head, or sighing...blinded art thou
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Someone's gotta step up and tell the prez that it's OK to say "flip-flop" because everyone knows what he's trying to say when he says(of Kerry) he "changes positions" so many times....

ya, and teach him how to produce Nuclear so he doesn't have to keep saying WMD instead.
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: FoBoT
the world will view a Kerry win as American weakness, that we don't want to stand up to terrorists and they will disregard us and the enemies of America will be enboldened to attack us again and with greater force

Everytime a man loses his home due to shelling in Iraq, so he has no where to live, there is possibility of that man becoming an enemy of the US. Everytime you blow up a factory where that man works, and he has no means of income now, there's a possiblity he becomes an enemy of the US. Everytime you have a father that loses a son, or a son loses a father, there is a possibility of them becoming an enemy to the US. Iraq hasn't made the world safer. All it's done is created a bigger pool of people to pull from and become enemies.

and ive been saying this for a while now. we've created more terrorists by going to Iraq. Bush single handedly (with Kerry's help) created numerous enemies for US. Kerry voted for this waw...but seems like he learned from his mistakes. Bush on the other hand....
 

Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: byung
Originally posted by: Aharami
oh Bush's ending speech was so rehearsed! his tone was totally different than the rest of the debate. man.

Yep, no deep pauses, no mumbling...but I'm sure Kerry did the same.

yea but it didnt seem connected ...Kerry's did
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: FoBoT
the world will view a Kerry win as American weakness, that we don't want to stand up to terrorists and they will disregard us and the enemies of America will be enboldened to attack us again and with greater force

Everytime a man loses his home due to shelling in Iraq, so he has no where to live, there is possibility of that man becoming an enemy of the US. Everytime you blow up a factory where that man works, and he has no means of income now, there's a possiblity he becomes an enemy of the US. Everytime you have a father that loses a son, or a son loses a father, there is a possibility of them becoming an enemy to the US. Iraq hasn't made the world safer. All it's done is created a bigger pool of people to pull from and become enemies.

and ive been saying this for a while now. we've created more terrorists by going to Iraq. Bush single handedly (with Kerry's help) created numerous enemies for US. Kerry voted for this waw...but seems like he learned from his mistakes. Bush on the other hand....

it's wrong to say everyone voted FOR the war, they voted to give the President the AUTHORITY to go to war, not necessarily TO GO TO WAR.
 

NavJitsU4

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May 2, 2003
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Practice Abstinence: No Dick, No Bush 04. or you can just bend over and grab your anckles for 4 more years.
 

RedPickle

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Sep 25, 2002
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Paul Begala from CNN put it best
"Kerry's using short, strong, clear sentences. He just said, "He [Saddam] was a threat. That's not the issue. It's what you do about the threat." No one could put it more clearly. You may agree or disagree with Kerry, but you can no longer say he hasn't been clear about where he disagrees with Mr. Bush about Iraq."
 

Whisper

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Feb 25, 2000
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ABC News poll had something like 47% thinking Kerry won, and 34% thinking Bush won. Those aren't exact numbers, but are in the ballpark.
 

Doggiedog

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Aug 17, 2000
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ABC said 47% Kerry 36% Bush 17% undecided out of 500+ polled 35% Republican, 35% Democrat, Rest unaffiliated.
 
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