presler 920 @ 4.1ghz stock voltage & STABLE

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: d94

Originally posted by: Avalon
Superpi 32M MINIMUM, which isn't even completely stable for a machine in many cases. Do dual instances of prime.

here's a 32mb superpi ~ 25.5 min ~ 4.55ghz
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5263/4550pi32mb0qz.jpg

i dont prime, its worthless imo when pcmark is a harder stability test and takes 10 minutes
however, i have been folding all day and playing some css and doing w/e @ the same tim NP @ 4.4ghz 1.45v

suicide screeni:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1861/4800suicide0ui.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=63636

and my best 1mb superpi time :
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9961/4706pi0qm.jpg

PCmark a harder stability test??? HAHAHAHAHAHA...not to bright!!! You just lost about all credibility with me....

Run a real test and stop the synthetic BS.....

I get can get most of the those programs to run on an unstable settings on my PC now some 100mhz more then what I know is 100% rock stable....not saying much...

REAL TEST newbie!!!! Have you done that Divx test yet???

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Duvie

PCmark a harder stability test??? HAHAHAHAHAHA...not to bright!!! You just lost about all credibility with me....

Run a real test and stop the synthetic BS.....

I get can get most of the those programs to run on an unstable settings on my PC now some 100mhz more then what I know is 100% rock stable....not saying much...

REAL TEST newbie!!!! Have you done that Divx test yet???

Could you troll any harder?

 

[MBentz]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: d94

Originally posted by: Avalon
Superpi 32M MINIMUM, which isn't even completely stable for a machine in many cases. Do dual instances of prime.

here's a 32mb superpi ~ 25.5 min ~ 4.55ghz
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5263/4550pi32mb0qz.jpg

i dont prime, its worthless imo when pcmark is a harder stability test and takes 10 minutes
however, i have been folding all day and playing some css and doing w/e @ the same tim NP @ 4.4ghz 1.45v

suicide screeni:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1861/4800suicide0ui.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=63636

and my best 1mb superpi time :
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9961/4706pi0qm.jpg

PCmark a harder stability test??? HAHAHAHAHAHA...not to bright!!! You just lost about all credibility with me....

Run a real test and stop the synthetic BS.....

I get can get most of the those programs to run on an unstable settings on my PC now some 100mhz more then what I know is 100% rock stable....not saying much...

REAL TEST newbie!!!! Have you done that Divx test yet???

Yeah, give him Mod powers quick!

Beautiful OC there dude. Intel hopefully has turned a corner for the better.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Duvie

PCmark a harder stability test??? HAHAHAHAHAHA...not to bright!!! You just lost about all credibility with me....

Run a real test and stop the synthetic BS.....

I get can get most of the those programs to run on an unstable settings on my PC now some 100mhz more then what I know is 100% rock stable....not saying much...

REAL TEST newbie!!!! Have you done that Divx test yet???

Could you troll any harder?

I am not trolling...I want a 920 presler...I just want someone evidently smarter to do a review of an OC......his comments show me...IT AINT HIM!!!!

 

[gxsaurav]

leaving overclocking aside, how is the temprature on normal stock clock speed, is it still insanly high like presHOT or better now

dam, intel will gain again over AMD I guess soon

 

[JEDIYoda]

I have had my p4 3.2E all the way up to 4.4 using just air....

Im currently sitting at 3.8.

BUT yeah thats a sweet o/c!!!

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: d94

Originally posted by: Avalon
Superpi 32M MINIMUM, which isn't even completely stable for a machine in many cases. Do dual instances of prime.

here's a 32mb superpi ~ 25.5 min ~ 4.55ghz
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5263/4550pi32mb0qz.jpg

i dont prime, its worthless imo when pcmark is a harder stability test and takes 10 minutes
however, i have been folding all day and playing some css and doing w/e @ the same tim NP @ 4.4ghz 1.45v

suicide screeni:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1861/4800suicide0ui.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=63636

and my best 1mb superpi time :
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9961/4706pi0qm.jpg

Better
:thumbsup:

 

[d94]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Duvie

PCmark a harder stability test??? HAHAHAHAHAHA...not to bright!!! You just lost about all credibility with me....

Run a real test and stop the synthetic BS.....

I get can get most of the those programs to run on an unstable settings on my PC now some 100mhz more then what I know is 100% rock stable....not saying much...

REAL TEST newbie!!!! Have you done that Divx test yet???

Could you troll any harder?

I am not trolling...I want a 920 presler...I just want someone evidently smarter to do a review of an OC......his comments show me...IT AINT HIM!!!!

you kiddin me?
you clearly dont know what your talkin bout'
so plz dont crap in my thread
thx

as far as stock goes i idle @ 23C and load @ 38C(i think..i dont remember exactly lol)..mind you this is completely stock on WC

also ran some memory benchies
4.4ghz
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/4876/membench44009yb.jpg
4.5ghz
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/9025/membench45001om.jpg
4.55ghz
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/mem%20bench%204550.JPG
man..7700mb/s that 1k over my record w/the 830!
strangely enough my ram seems to run faster @ 5-4-4-15 than 4-4-4-15

 

[Duvie]

Your PCmark versus prime statement sums up all I need to know....

keep running synthetics though....not enough worthless info....

Try running actual apps like the "Divx test" a few threads down....How about some games!!!! Give us some more direct comparisons to the 830 in these areas and we can get a better idea of how the increased speed and fsb helps the chip.

Still very good temps for a WC, since I saw WC setups barely get out of the 50's with the P-D smithfield setups and mild OCs....

 

[Markfw]

I don't believe all this crap either. And I have an 820D. And Duvie is right, these synthetic benches are crap. I could get mine to 3.6 doing that crap. And on water cooing ? the temps don't show crap. If you need water to get a decent temp, just get an X2 and you don't need it. I will stop crapping in your thread when you stop crapping.

 

[n7]

I was going to post asking the OP to run S&M & SP2004 or P95, but instead i'm not.

While he may not be running crazy testing, the fact is, he's gotten an awesome OC out of a budget dual core

While being able say you rig runs P95 for 12 hrs. is great, it seriously means f*ck all.

I've been running my X2 @ a very unstable SuperPI, P95 & S&M 2.55GHz...since i got my X2, yet for my games, my video re-encoding, & everything i run on my PC, it's been perfectly stable.

I'm frankly sick of some stupid program being the ultimate gospel of stability.

Sure, it's a good indicator, but that really doesn't mean anything.
What matters is that one can run what they need to on their PC w/o instability.

I see no reason to flame the OP since he hasn't run the holy grail of testing, etc.

 

[Duvie]

Prime95, OCCT, S&M (full test multi core), multiple instances of 32mb superpi are all better then a 10 minute test of a futuremock program....

The OP thinking a 10 minute test is a stress test is a moron and deserves to get flamed up one side and down the other...

Run Folding at Home ( 2 instances ) for 24-72 hours and I would respect it more then i do now...

 

[Markfw]

My definition of stability is 30 days at 24/7, 2xF@H and a wide variety of business and gaming software with no problems. I have that on my X2@2530. 60 days and counting. My 820D actualy had a problem 2 weeks ago. even 24 hours is just the tip of the iceberg. I can get 3.6 on my 820D for 30 minutes easy.

And why would someone buy a $270 CPU that requires $270 cooling and a $200 motherboard, to get to the same equivalent speed as a $320 cpu on a $80 motherboard with stock cooling !

$740 Intel vs $400 AMD ? who cares about 4.26 ghz (and thats the web that I believe)

Thats why I got my $160 cpu (820D) with $50 cooling on $80 motherboard and compared to my AMD setup. And the Intel looses big time. So my $100 savings is all lost in a short time in power cost, and performance sucks.

Now, I WOULD LOVE TO TRY THE 920D IN THE SAME TEST ON THE SAME MOTHERBOARD, but based on the best evidence, it won't be worth my extra $100 expenditure. Want to bring a 920D over to my house and prove me wrong ? right across the street from Intel Aloha compus, come on down !

 

[d94]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Prime95, OCCT, S&M (full test multi core), multiple instances of 32mb superpi are all better then a 10 minute test of a futuremock program....

The OP thinking a 10 minute test is a stress test is a moron and deserves to get flamed up one side and down the other...

Run Folding at Home ( 2 instances ) for 24-72 hours and I would respect it more then i do now...

today i ran two instances of folding which ran both cores @ 100% and used about 450mb total of ram. at the same time i browsed the internet, im'd ppl
DL'd, installed, and played CSS for an hour w/no lag whatsover
perhaps this is better proof of my stability.

 

[Markfw]

Well, thats getting closer. Try 60 days, and something that stress the system more than F@H, like 2xF@H and sql and telnet and ftp and Lotus notes and sametime and Firefox and encoding all at once for those 60 days. Then talk to me. and you still spendt way more to do it (see previous post) for the same performance.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: d94

Originally posted by: Duvie
Prime95, OCCT, S&M (full test multi core), multiple instances of 32mb superpi are all better then a 10 minute test of a futuremock program....

The OP thinking a 10 minute test is a stress test is a moron and deserves to get flamed up one side and down the other...

Run Folding at Home ( 2 instances ) for 24-72 hours and I would respect it more then i do now...

today i ran two instances of folding which ran both cores @ 100% and used about 450mb total of ram. at the same time i browsed the internet, im'd ppl
DL'd, installed, and played CSS for an hour w/no lag whatsover
perhaps this is better proof of my stability.

Sounds better...Its not "proof". You haven't shown me anything...I like the sounds of it better then a 10minute test

I usually use 1-4hr prime test for short term stability test as I am ocing...each successful pass and I boost the fsb a bit more...In the end I ultimately run 24-48 hour stress test of prime and/or 1 week of FH non stop.....I like S&M app to really stress the chip and build the most extreme heat...If it goes fine there I know it will handle anything I dish at it....



The nice thing about prime is it gives you a time or duration of test..The best thing to do is have the FH units running and the hit ctrl alt del and place that on the screen so we can see both cores running a FH unit and the cpu time will let us know the duration. 1 hour isn't much but I would say to do what you listed you are likely at least within 50-100mhz of what I would call stable speed....




Sidenote...Too bad you dont have an air cooler or even stock cooler to test for us to see how much the WC is helping you obtain your higher OC...Most 920's and 930's I have seen have been on WC and I wwould likely run air cooled...I need to know if 4.2ghz is obtainable with air...

 

[Duvie]

Is the 955 chipset (all mobos) gauranteed to work with this????

 

[lopri]

Well, I have to make two points.

First, the OP's OC is just awesome anyway you look at it. Whether it's the chip or his skill, hell, being able to POST @4.0GHz+ with a 2.8GHz/$280 chip is already miraculous to me. Can you imagine FX57 @4.0GHz? Even just a POST? I understand that OP claimed "Being stable" first, but we should all first congrat his (or Intel's?) achievement. Awesome chip/job, D94!

Second, I think by now we can somehow agree on "Stability". Yes, stability can be relative but then again so is everything else. If we decide to be "relative" on everything, discussion becomes impossible. That's why there are common sense and statistics. Say, if you're given a choice to pick a chip that does 12hrs Prime95 and a chip that does Super PI 32M, which one would you pick? With Prime95 unstable setup (especially LargeFFT) I have had quite a few mysterious lockups, reboots, etc. while playing games. Yes, Prime95 is not perfect but it's the best tool we can agree on for stability of a CPU. So at least for me, (and hopefully for many others) it's like this.

1. Prime95 SmallFFT: CPU Stability
2. Super PI: Memory Configuration
3. Prime95 LargeFFT: Overall System Stablity

Bleh.. this is not what I was going to say.

Anyway, congrats again on great OCs. It's not just the OP's achievement. But it could be a sign of not-so-distant future. Think about it. Socket 939 Opteron? Do you think AMD all of a sudden decided to lose money on their chips by selling those overpowering chips at fraction of the prices? I don't think so. It means AMD's manufacturing has leaped to a different level. It's also obvious from the fact that these chips are showing a very uniform performance pattern. On the same line, this Pentium D 9xx series might just mean that Intel has finally mastered the Netburst architecture and the manufacturing. Unfortunately for them, it's like the last minute spurt since a new architecture is coming after this. Still very impressive. Just like Socket 939 Opterons.

After all, we're observing a huge leap in CPU manufacturing that has been stagnant for such a long time. From both AMD and Intel. Arguing over stability is somewhat off the point, IMHO. If someone can POST @4.5GHz, the chip could be stabilized @4.0GHz by someone else. What's more important to us is the progress.

P.S. Mark, your posts are getting worse and worse.

 

[stevty2889]

My 920 should be here by tuesday, or weds. so I'll run some real benchmarks when I get it. Synthetics are only good for comparing your configuration to another similar configuration to make sure it's working like it should. The 65nm chips do seem to have some nice potential, and are certainly looking a lot better than the 90nm netburst chips.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Is the 955 chipset (all mobos) gauranteed to work with this????

I've even seen 865 chipset boards with Presler/Cedar Mill suport, such as the Asus P5P800..definatly doesn't require the 955 chipset, all 945/955/975 chipset boards should support them, as long as the Mfg's update the BIOS. 915/925 should work as well if even the 865/875 will support them..

 

[Technonut]

i dont prime, its worthless imo when pcmark is a harder stability test and takes 10 minutes

There are many here that disagree.... Hell, I can run most benchmarks @ 4.6GHz with my P4 640/VapoChill, but 4.4GHz is where it is truly stable, and what I post any benchmark results as.....

Many of us here use our rigs for video encoding, long gaming sessions, and other processor intensive apps. Regardless of whether you think that P95 / SP-2004 is worthless or not, it would be a welcome favor to others here for you to at least run it overnight (while you are sleeping) and post a screenshot. It would help decide on whether others and myself want to invest some hard-earned $$ on a similar processor.

At least run AutoGK or DVD Shrink through a long DVD, and post a screenshot of the log / times... otherwise, your posted "stable" OC is worthless to to me....

 

[Sentential]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Is the 955 chipset (all mobos) gauranteed to work with this????

Yes that is correct, all 945P and i955X chipsets will work with Presler as well as any 65nm chip

 

[Sentential]

Pictures of the chip:
Physical Box w/t Manual
CPU w/t heatsink on manual
Size comparison against an 1800XP

This should give you an idea of temps:
Idle in Windows
Load In windows

Here are some Sisandra scores for you to view:
CPU Arithmetic
Aprox RAM Bandwith

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Overall I am very pleased with these chips, while the clocks on them so far are kinda mediocre in time they will do alot better.

As for stability I prefer using a combination of CPU burn and looped 3d01SE to see how stable my system is. For this box I looped 3d01SE for 8 hours without any crashed and 6 hrs with CPU burn. Neither showed any abnormalities

 

[qoou]

is there a good motherboard for this cpu where I could use dual channel ddr1 pc3200 sticks insteas d of having to buy all new ram?

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: qoou
is there a good motherboard for this cpu where I could use dual channel ddr1 pc3200 sticks insteas d of having to buy all new ram?

I dont think so because of the chipset requirements, which stevty2889 mentioned on earlier.