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amenx

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There is no issue with the new drivers, its an issue with game mode on windows with the new creators update. If they disable the stupid feature, it won't cause stutters.

Its a problem in several games. Its useless regardless as the gains are like 1-2fps, literally worthless.

Its a lot more effective to get a light and lean antivirus for example, than use game mode. Also remove needless background applications and you would easily gain 3-4fps no game mode needed.
I think it may be wise to note your non-affiliation with Guru3d (you are certainly not Hilbert H the admin), since they are a reputable site whose views/words often carry weight in GPU related topics. A disclaimer in your sig would be nice.
 

Dribble

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OatisCampbell

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Yeah its funny read it now

Watching "Archer" on Netflix - Funny.

Re-hashing a company's years old issues that were discussed ad nauseum when they were actually issues - Not funny.

Personally I could live without hearing about the great FCAT, FX5800, Quack, Fury X fan, 970 VRAM, etc "scandals" ever again for the rest of my days.

That's about where the PC gaming market has declined to though, with only two companies in GPUs and CPUs launching parts every couple years we're left talking about stuff that was news years ago.

Would be nice if SOC companies like Samsung and Qualcomm could enter these markets (x86) and give us some choices and things to talk about other than ancient history we don't have much reason to care about. :-|
 

nurturedhate

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It seems to run prey just fine, the purpose of this thread. So why did you bring this up cause it has nothing to do with prey?
It was in reference to larger sites missing the stuttering from the Nvidia game ready driver for Prey compared to the smaller sites that caught it. Was roughly the same with the 970 and its memory configuration. While larger sites are great for large amounts of data for day one releases, not all the large sites perform in depth analysis of what is actually going on as they should. The majority are driven by page views and the first to release benches get the page views. The relation was not about how the 970 performed in Prey but about methodology and thoroughness in data analysis.
 

nurturedhate

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Watching "Archer" on Netflix - Funny.

Re-hashing a company's years old issues that were discussed ad nauseum when they were actually issues - Not funny.

Personally I could live without hearing about the great FCAT, FX5800, Quack, Fury X fan, 970 VRAM, etc "scandals" ever again for the rest of my days.

That's about where the PC gaming market has declined to though, with only two companies in GPUs and CPUs launching parts every couple years we're left talking about stuff that was news years ago.

Would be nice if SOC companies like Samsung and Qualcomm could enter these markets (x86) and give us some choices and things to talk about other than ancient history we don't have much reason to care about. :-|
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. While I do share the sentiment that those hardly qualify as scandals (970 VRAM marketing being the exception) the context in which the poster brought it up was correct. AS for having nothing to talk about that entirely depends on the type of conversation you wish to have about the hardware. Look at the differences between here and Beyond3d. Same hardware, vastly different conversations. Both have their place.

As for the game itself - I am glad to see a game run so fantastically out of the box with little to no issues from the developer side. It's been a while since we've had one of these and it makes it a simple joy to play when we don't have to fiddle with this or that to get things running. To top it off the game is fantastic.
 

Bacon1

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It seems to run prey just fine, the purpose of this thread.

We were talking about big sites like TPU (the subject of this thread from the title) missing big things like stuttering in games. Also as the testing shows, the game doesn't use large amounts of VRAM let alone require lots of VRAM. Most VRAM goes unused and is there for buffer / preloading assets.
 

Phynaz

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Not sure why this vid is getting all this attention. Its one small youtuber with 386 subscribers doing 1 vs 1 cards. You want something more substantive or 'professional' see the TPU review.

Some people are getting desperate to defend "their" brand. To the point of spending hours scouring the Internet for any piece of information that makes the competition look bad.
 

OatisCampbell

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. While I do share the sentiment that those hardly qualify as scandals (970 VRAM marketing being the exception) the context in which the poster brought it up was correct. AS for having nothing to talk about that entirely depends on the type of conversation you wish to have about the hardware. Look at the differences between here and Beyond3d. Same hardware, vastly different conversations. Both have their place.

As for the game itself - I am glad to see a game run so fantastically out of the box with little to no issues from the developer side. It's been a while since we've had one of these and it makes it a simple joy to play when we don't have to fiddle with this or that to get things running. To top it off the game is fantastic.
That kind of logic might work if there were 5 brands of CPUs and GPUs to choose from and some of them had never done anything sketchy.

As it is there are two of each and buying one today in the GPU sector means a huge hit in gaming performance when AMD has no competition for 980Ti, old Titan X, 1070, 1080, 1080Ti, new Titan X, new Titan Xp. So what are you going to do? Say "Curse you NVIDIA for your 970 treachery! I will not buy GPUs!"?

Same goes for intel. Basically unless you're willing to settle for less gaming performance, you're out of luck.

AMD has done some sketchy stuff over the years too, so what?

Take up bowling?
 

tamz_msc

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Some people are getting desperate to defend "their" brand. To the point of spending hours scouring the Internet for any piece of information that makes the competition look bad.
So a company that boasts of getting the fastest support for newly launched games has their driver behaving sub-optimally but it's wrong to point it out?
 
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frowertr

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I m not sure what the stutter is that people are referring to. Ive played about 2 hours on my 1060 at 1440 and havent noticed any stutter at all.

I am glad I got this game from cdkeys for nearly half price as it isnt my kind of game.
 

caswow

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I m not sure what the stutter is that people are referring to. Ive played about 2 hours on my 1060 at 1440 and havent noticed any stutter at all.

I am glad I got this game from cdkeys for nearly half price as it isnt my kind of game.



Its that stutter that got reported on german sites and by many users. consider yourself lucky. nvidias superior drivers didnt hit you this time.
 
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cytg111

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There is the occasional stutter, few and far between. But is 'minor' stutter compared to some other recent titles. Flawless compared to something like the PC port of RE7.

As far as day and night cycles, the game takes place on a space station...

Might not be the best looking game out there, but damn is it hard to put down. It's been a long time since a game has come along that feels fresh, totally immersive, and meaningful. And is a welcome relief from games/studios who attempt to achieve substance with open-world staples (fetch-quests, meaningless characters, breathless story). I would definitely recommend giving it a try.
I agree, its a good title

1. More ammo. Give me more ammo damnit
2. Alien diversity. They're all these black blobs .. those certainly didnt break the budget.
3. Character animation, facial expressions : A whole level better than MEA
 

chimaxi83

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Or you could have bought it from Steam at its normal price where the money would actually go to the developer and find you didn't like the game in the 2 hours you get to play it then get a full refund.

Your rant being OT notwithstanding, I buy a ton from CDKeys. Did the Steam key I got from them not come from the developer, even if it was supposed to be sold in another country? If you're all about paying full price for games, the console forum is <---- that way.
 

Head1985

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GTX980TI at 1200Mhz=GTX1070 at 1850mhz.So 980TI oc will be around 15% faster than oc 1070.You can squeeze around 30% performance from 980Ti after oc to 1500mhz from 1200Mhz but only around 15% from GTX1070 at 1850Mhz.
Also GTX1060 is slower than GTX980.Pascal looks pretty bad in this game vs maxwell.
 

Bacon1

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Your rant being OT notwithstanding, I buy a ton from CDKeys. Did the Steam key I got from them not come from the developer, even if it was supposed to be sold in another country? If you're all about paying full price for games, the console forum is <---- that way.

Not sure if CDKeys is as bad, but G2A and many others are CD Keys paid for with stolen CC's which are often charged back thus costing the developers money due to fees. So instead of giving them money, you are actually costing them money.
 
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tamz_msc

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Sorry for OT regarding CDKeys, back on topic.

DF seem to have a smoother experience with the 1060 on Prey?

Maybe the driver issue is user-specific. Funny how they talk about "locked 60fps" but all throughout the video the are running with uncapped FPS.
 

Malogeek

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Funny how they talk about "locked 60fps" but all throughout the video the are running with uncapped FPS.
When they refer to locked 60fps, they mean that when you're actually running the game on your system with comparable hardware, and you're capping to 60fps, you'll get 60fps constantly. They uncap it to show it never dips below 60fps therefore it will be locked in actual gameplay.
 

tamz_msc

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When they refer to locked 60fps, they mean that when you're actually running the game on your system with comparable hardware, and you're capping to 60fps, you'll get 60fps constantly. They uncap it to show it never dips below 60fps therefore it will be locked in actual gameplay.
At no point in the video did I see the RX 580 dipping below 60FPS at 1080p and only once to 54fps at 1440p. It's basically a tie if you want 1440p at 60fps.
 

chimaxi83

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Not sure if CDKeys is as bad, but G2A and many others are CD Keys paid for with stolen CC's which are often charged back thus costing the developers money due to fees. So instead of giving them money, you are actually costing them money.

Strange. I'd think people's game accounts would start suffering. I've made maybe 25 purchases through CDKeys and my Steam, PSN, and MS accounts are healthy.

Well, enough OT. The game runs well on mostly medium settings on my sons 3770K/7870. Might be giving him a 290.
 

tamz_msc

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I'm not sure what your point is sorry.
The point is that the GTX 1060 having more 'headroom' to maintain a 60fps lock at 1440p, like they talk about in the video, isn't something you can claim without locking the fps in the first place and measuring the %tage of time spent below 60fps.
 
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