You don't need to get a hybrid or spend as much as one costs to get that kind of mileage.
Really? You concluded that from an entertainment show like Top Gear?
I am sure that people buy them because they get phenomenal gas mileage.
1) He never mentioned shit about roominess, just mileage.
2) The Yaris makes way more sense: If he's driving 30K miles a year and it's going to take him 7 years to break even, then there's a slight problem. The battery has an 8 year/100,000 mile warranty, which means that he's out of warranty in year 3.5, or 3.5 years before breakeven.
3) New Yaris in year 5 for trade-in vs a Prius with a battery that has 7*30,000=210,000 miles on it. I know which one is going to have higher value and it's not the Prius.
Summary:
-He's going to be out of warranty in year 3.5 on the battery
-Even if he makes it to breakeven point in year 7, less trade-in value at 210,000 miles vs 5 year old Yaris with 60K miles. In fact, the Yaris is worth almost twice as much (Source: Autotrader 2005 Prius vs 2007 Yaris), 7K~ vs 13.5K~.
-More than 10% horsepower for passing with the Yaris, which could increase even more as tech increases in the 2 year gap.
You don't need to get a hybrid or spend as much as one costs to get that kind of mileage.
Really. Please tell the audience which car they can buy that gets Prius-type mileage and yet is not a hybrid. You can use figures from fueleconomy.gov.You don't need to get a hybrid or spend as much as one costs to get that kind of mileage.
So that's it? Nobody going to admit that maybe just maybe they learned something here?
Heh. Way back when I bought a motorcycle. Only a 550, but decent enough for the highway in a pinch.Agree with this.
I'm just waiting for the bicycle folks to come in here and laugh at us car people.
You weren't spewing decade old talking points, and no doubt I'd rather be in a tundra in a multi-vehicle accident than a Prius!I didn't. I already know Prius's get great mileage. I also already know I don't care for how they look and I prefer something larger for when I need to tow or haul something as well as the safety aspect.
You weren't spewing decade old talking points, and no doubt I'd rather be in a tundra in a multi-vehicle accident than a Prius!
So that's it? Nobody going to admit that maybe just maybe they learned something here?
It's essentially been concluded there was no fix; it was driver error.That's a scary thought. All these runaway vehicles that can randomly start to accelerate with no brakes. :awe:
I'm guessing/hoping they fixed that by now though.
Since when is 33 mpg combined "~40 mpg"? I'll teach you: http://www.fueleconomy.gov It's more like ~33. I can see that the marketing approach that a lot of brands are using now touting only the highway figure has worked on you, thoughWhat's here to learn, that 99% of Prius owners won't recoup the added cost of the car when they could have gotten something like a Focus that gets ~40mpg and saved thousands initially as well?
The best part about owning the Prius is the gas mileage.
Fixed that for you.
Do tell us what you have to done to help all the people you mentioned?
I educate people on the fallacy of their own self-importance and relieve them of their delusion that they are somehow superior to the other 7 billion human beings on the planet.
Particularly when that self-importance hinges on their decision to buy a Prius.
Good point, although they are recycled by Toyota. (Also, if your car is old enough to warrant it, you can also get used packs which use harvested good batteries from wrecks.)
http://green.autoblog.com/2010/10/29/toyota-launches-nimh-battery-to-battery-recycling-program/I didn't realize Toyota was taking the financial burnden of recycling all these packs. Do you have a link, I'd be interested to read how they plan on executing on that.
Per Wikipedia and few other actual review sites claim 51-52 MPG (US) for 2.2 Diesel CX-5.
Who would get one if this were made available in US of A?