Pro pot prohibition by drug warrior on cnn is hysterically bad

[TechBoyJK]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/opinion/sabet-marijuana-legalization/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

There's not a single comment that isn't essentially laughing at it. It's terrible.

 

[BUTCH1]

he's full of shit, yea, I'll agree that the current taxes on booze and smokes hasn't paid for what they wind up costing but that doesn't mean pot cant, alcohol destroys the brain, liver and smoking causes many deadly diseases, pot just isn't as hard on the body and could be a tax boon for the Gov..

 

[The Boston Dangler]

what we need is a multi-decade, multi-billion dollar war on drugs other than alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceuticals. that would definitely solve our problems.

 

[Triumph]

You know, if states such as Colorado simply omitted all reference to marijuana from their law books, it would by default become legal. Omission is permission, anything not explicitly illegal is legal. Then what's the supreme court going to do, rule that a state's lack of a law violates federal statutes? Order the state to pass a law? How would that work?

 

[ichy]

Lol, "high potency marijuana." What's he going to claim next, marijuana crazed negroes raping white women?

 

[Genx87]

I think it is more scary this douche was in Obama's administration helping to form policy. These are the idiots who shape our way of life.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

He's from the University of Florida? Well that explains a lot, he's just trying to get his name out there so he can get out of the swamps and hurricanes...lol

I am getting really tired of seeing a bunch of stiffnecks telling people lies just to push their agenda in order to procure more funds for their bullshit jobs. Get a real job. Stop arresting people for your morality play.

Seriously, it is like a bunch of virgins running around telling the world they will all die if they have sex. It's just beyond any kind of rationality at this point.

 

[Juddog]

Lol, "high potency marijuana." What's he going to claim next, marijuana crazed negroes raping white women?

I laugh anytime someone mentions the "high potency" thing. It's as if having "high potency" beer makes you drink more alcohol - it doesn't, you just drink less of them, which is a good thing.

 

[Cutterhead]

I stumbled on this article yesterday and enjoyed reading through the comments. He gets destroyed, and for good reason.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

problem with vice taxes is that they are designed to curb behavior, but once the behavior is reduced, the revenue stream dies up. the government (and thus the people receiving the benefits) become dependent on the vice. its not good position to be in, and creates a conflict of interest.

just one more reason why the government should stay the f out of our daily lives

 

[darkewaffle]

To be fair, people like posting negative comments way more than positive comments. If the same guy posted a pro-pot legalization article he'd probably be blasted for being an immoral sodomite trying to purposefully interest kids in hard drugs and such.

 

[OutHouse]

I laugh anytime someone mentions the "high potency" thing. It's as if having "high potency" beer makes you drink more alcohol - it doesn't, you just drink less of them, which is a good thing.

huh?? you just drunk or stoned faster... how is that a good or bad thing? i fail to see the connect.

 

[TechBoyJK]

To be fair, people like posting negative comments way more than positive comments. If the same guy posted a pro-pot legalization article he'd probably be blasted for being an immoral sodomite trying to purposefully interest kids in hard drugs and such.

Sounds reasonable, but in my experience, even the most Pro Pot articles get mostly praise, and those that react negatively get trashed just like this article did. Looking back at all the articles I've read (from both conservative AND liberal media sources), it seems like 95% of readers and people leaving comments support legalization and insist the drug war has failed.

 

[TechBoyJK]

huh?? you just drunk or stoned faster... how is that a good or bad thing? i fail to see the connect.

Author of article complains that weed is more potent and that's why it's dangerous.

DarkBlueWaffle was just saying it's actually a good thing because you have to smoke less to get the desired effect. Just like someone who wants to get a good buzz might do a few shots rather than drinking a bunch of beer.

Prohibitionists cry that 'smoking' is bad for you, then also cry that weed is more potent than usual. Sadly, these two things cancel each other out, in regards to harm, because the more potent the weed is, the less you have to smoke to get desired effect.

Also, potency can be controlled. So saying "weed is more potent than before" doesn't really make sense. Which strand and batch did he test to get potency, and which strand and batch did he compare it to?

Did you know alcohol is more potent than before? Doesn't make sense. You have to ask "what alcohol? Vodka? Which brand? compared to what?"

Just like the alcohol by volume metric, it's not alcohol that's more potent, it's the particular mix.

 

[darkewaffle]

Sounds reasonable, but in my experience, even the most Pro Pot articles get mostly praise, and those that react negatively get trashed just like this article did. Looking back at all the articles I've read (from both conservative AND liberal media sources), it seems like 95% of readers and people leaving comments support legalization and insist the drug war has failed.

I don't doubt it, but I think the "internet" demographic in general is going to be pretty heavily in favor of it as well inherently. Giving a speech favoring legalization is probably going to have a pretty poor reception in, you know, Nebraska. It's the same effect, only in reverse.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I don't doubt it, but I think the "internet" demographic in general is going to be pretty heavily in favor of it as well inherently. Giving a speech favoring legalization is probably going to have a pretty poor reception in, you know, Nebraska. It's the same effect, only in reverse.

I also think it's a sign of the generational gap. Most people online leaving comments and engaging in social media, online debates, etc. are typically the younger, more computer savvy crowd. You don't have the old reefer madness fogies that think pot is the devil as equally engaged as the younger, more tolerant crowd.

 

[clamum]

Author of article complains that weed is more potent and that's why it's dangerous.

DarkBlueWaffle was just saying it's actually a good thing because you have to smoke less to get the desired effect. Just like someone who wants to get a good buzz might do a few shots rather than drinking a bunch of beer.

Prohibitionists cry that 'smoking' is bad for you, then also cry that weed is more potent than usual. Sadly, these two things cancel each other out, in regards to harm, because the more potent the weed is, the less you have to smoke to get desired effect.

Also, potency can be controlled. So saying "weed is more potent than before" doesn't really make sense. Which strand and batch did he test to get potency, and which strand and batch did he compare it to?

Did you know alcohol is more potent than before? Doesn't make sense. You have to ask "what alcohol? Vodka? Which brand? compared to what?"

Just like the alcohol by volume metric, it's not alcohol that's more potent, it's the particular mix.

Yep, exactly. And if it was legalized, the potency would be controlled anyway. I love how the guy just got completed destroyed by the comments, LOL. Fucking pro-drug war morons are hilarious.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Gonna happen soon.
I will give gay marriage for weed legalization. Deal?

 

[BUTCH1]

Lol, "high potency marijuana." What's he going to claim next, marijuana crazed negroes raping white women?

To be fair pot can range from Mexican ditch weed that gives you more of a headache than a buzz to hydro-grown "crippie" bud that sells for $15/gram, it's strong enough that I wouldn't even consider driving after smoking some, 2-3 bong swats and you really, really toasted..

 

[zanejohnson]

lol the whole getting stronger arguement is stupid on so many levels..

we grow better hyrdroponic tomatos nowdays as well, you gonna skip a slice on that burger?

and like people dont know how to gauge themselves and use moderationg, and if you dont, you will after you smoke a couple times... we're not trying to legislate the strength of our morning coffee brews are we?

 

[Saint Nick]

I don't doubt it, but I think the "internet" demographic in general is going to be pretty heavily in favor of it as well inherently. Giving a speech favoring legalization is probably going to have a pretty poor reception in, you know, Nebraska. It's the same effect, only in reverse.

Yep, and I can vouch for that. We had a lot of NORML sponsored petitions going around last year and this year to try to get legalization on the ballot.

Lead balloon.

 

[zanejohnson]

also, growing a plant start to finish and having your time invested pay off, and eventually taking it farther with breeding/advanced grow mediums.. is something that takes a person years to master... growing plants hasn't changed in the last millenia... and neither have alot of the mainstream genetics.

 

[clamum]

also, growing a plant start to finish and having your time invested pay off, and eventually taking it farther with breeding/advanced grow mediums.. is something that takes a person years to master... growing plants hasn't changed in the last millenia... and neither have alot of the mainstream genetics.

wat

 

[TechBoyJK]

To be fair pot can range from Mexican ditch weed that gives you more of a headache than a buzz to hydro-grown "crippie" bud that sells for $15/gram, it's strong enough that I wouldn't even consider driving after smoking some, 2-3 bong swats and you really, really toasted..

I don't smoke weed that often. Not a fan of smoking at all, but I can enjoy it when I feel up to it.

But when I do, it's partially because I like sitting back with some friends and actually partaking in a group smoke session. During those times, whoever is providing the weed doesn't offer up their very best. Why? Because it's too strong for us to sit around and enjoy smoking. We'd light up a joint, each take a hit, sit back and space out. There's no smoke session, just a quick few hits and everyone's done. No fun in that.

A regulated marijuana industry would also seen a rise in lower potency, flavored marijuana created just for smoking pleasure.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

wat

Originally Posted by zanejohnson
also, growing a plant start to finish and having your time invested pay off, and eventually taking it farther with breeding/advanced grow mediums.. is something that takes a person years to master... growing plants hasn't changed in the last millenia... and neither have alot of the mainstream genetics.

He's saying that it takes a lot of effort, dedication, and practice to be able to grow and produce high potency marijuana, on the orders of years.