Problem with my GIGABYTE GA-965G-DS3

[puck]

Bozo -
I tried your suggestions with no luck. I was referring to W2K on my old system (athlonxp; epox board) that my NEC 3500A worked fine with Nero 5.

An interesting note, I plugged in my really old samsung CDRW IDE drive, and Nero sees this drive no prob!! I tried swapping the samsung and nec between master/slave on the Jmicron IDE, either way only the samsung shows up w/Nero. This NEC drive refuses to work with Nero.

Next step is trying out Nero 7 trial.

 

[Bozo Galora]

Unfortunately the AT search engine doesnt work, or i could reference many topics on NEC opticals not being recognized under different conditions.
Personally, I wouldnt touch a NEC. But then that will bring out the peeps who say I have 30 of them and have never had a bad minute.
If Nero sees Samsung and not NEC, then you do not have a controller config/driver problem.
You have a drive problem, or an aspi layer problem,, or a drive firmware problem, or an XP problem.

FWIW: The most trouble free drive brand I know of is Pioneer. The 112D has just been named editors choice on cdfreaks. And there is a SATA version of this drive.
For a little over $32 bucks, its not even worth talking about, just get one.

As far as Nero, they have gone through a whole series of 7.x.x.x versions, many of them very troubled. They seemed to have settled down with something that works with the 7.8.5.0 as I mentioned. Be extremely careful what vers of 7 you get. At one point Nero was putting out a new vers every 4 or 5 days. And i would highly recommend the lite version while testing.

Edit:
And not overlooking any possibility, you might want to test RAM by running some super pi., or prime95. Bad RAM is very sneaky cause of probs.
http://mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

 

[Bozo Galora]

I was just checking the dif between the JMicron new 1.17.15.00 and older 1.17.11.02
The old .inf stops at device 2369
The new inf has no 2369 and jumps to 2371 and also adds 2373/2375 and 2376
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/329/jminfcompare425rt7.jpg
So I would call that a big change - remember the JM has nothing to do with Intel RAID/AHCI.
And the cat file for IDE is bigger for some reason
Both it and the Intel SATA drives ripped by SD from ASUS engineering mobo obviously.
Since these have ICH9R, this would seem to indicate ASUS will be the first with a Penryn ready mobo. Doesnt look like AHCI only will be an option on Intel on their board.

As far as Intel Matrix drivers: drivers version 7.5.0.1017 Beta
I tried to use these drivers on my DFI mobo during F6 Intel floppy, but they wouldnt go with my BIOS set to AHCI on Intel. I could pick ICH8R or ICH9R RAID, but not ICH8R AHCI. And the JM driver pak does nothing for me since the DFI has no JM SATA.

Edited for clarity (if thats even possible)

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
If Nero sees Samsung and not NEC, then you do not have a controller config/driver problem.
You have a drive problem, or an aspi layer problem,, or a drive firmware problem, or an XP problem.

Nero versions 5.xx & 6.xx used to have regular monthly updates, where the software notes would specify which new models of burners were "now supported". So, I'm not surprised that the older Nero version 5.xx wouldn't support newer burners, such as the NEC 3500A.
Not to mention, being connected to a (then) completely unknown IDE controller chip (JMicron).

I tried to use these drivers on my DFI mobo during F6 Intel floppy, but they wouldnt go with my BIOS set to AHCI on Intel. I could pick ICH8R or ICH9R RAID, but not ICH8R AHCI.

Did you also try (getting AHCI to install using F6 floppy) using the latest 8.4.0.1010 beta Intel Inf drivers?

 

[macpeteo]

Originally posted by: vailr
New driver versions:
JMicron drivers: 1.17.15.00 WHQL
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/jmicron.htm
&
Intel Matrix drivers: drivers version 7.5.0.1017 Beta
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm

Edit: The JMicron driver is unchanged for the
"JMB36X Standard Dual Channel PCIE IDE Controller" version 1.0.0.0 dated 9/16/2006.
Still "Not digitally signed".

Hi, I'm trying to use nLite to package the JM driver onto a new XP-CD (so as not to use F6), anyway, what chip does the DS3 rev. 3.3 use for the JM chip, 3xy what is xy number?
And do I include/select the AHCI driver also?

Thanks,
Pete

p.s. new drivers out 1.17.17.0

 

[vailr]

nLite should automatically include any and all drivers found in a given folder.
Choose the "floppy32" folder, since you want the Windows initial setup sequence to include the JMicron drivers.
Then the Windows installer will find the best driver that matches the detected device.
At least, that's the theory....

 

[macpeteo]

Originally posted by: vailr
nLite should automatically include any and all drivers found in a given folder.
Choose the "floppy32" folder, since you want the Windows initial setup sequence to include the JMicron drivers.
Then the Windows installer will find the best driver that matches the detected device.
At least, that's the theory....

In my case when selecting the "text mode or method" it listed the drivers for the varies chips and I could select from the list. So I ran it with "PNP" and it only listed one file so I choice it and it did finish the job----

But now, seems that nLight is not doing what I expected it to do, which is to create a ISO file for me to burn. In fact, I don't have any options for "unattended Operation" or any of that, its a question for the nLite board but anyone use the 1.3 version?

I'm doing this on my old HP AMD comp but that should not matter.

I will be getting my MB this Saturday (from Clubit) along with my processor so I wanted to be ready. I have created a floppy with the "flopppy32" contents and bought a floppy drive (with card readers, may as well use the space for more then just a floppy). So I'm ready but if I do the F6 install, will XP ask to to pick drivers from the floppy?

This is my very first comp build, sorry for all the noob questions.

Thanks,
macpeteo


PROBLEM SOLVED-- Went back to nLite and saw where u need to set things up for a ISO file/Burn, all is well, ISO was created and I burned it to a CD and was able to read it back.
Saturday will be the true test, hope my HDs are working and memory allows a post.

 

[Bozo Galora]

@macpeteo

nlite is a bit confusing when you first use it
there are about a dozen option tabs, but they are EACH toggles
You can pick more than one operation
If you dont also pick create ISO, it wont ask you
It does nothing automatically.

And slipstreaming these PARTICULAR drivers are a waste of time. I have already tried the non PNP and the PNP driver selections and both, and they simply are not picked after install. You need to install the Intel CHIPSET drivers after first boot before any JM or Intel RAID/AHCI. If you have to run the setup.exe's anyway after install, using slipstreamed drivers is a waste of time.

If you have a Gigabyte 965 or DFI 965 you have a floppy drive.
When the XP CD starts the install, within a few seconds (be alert) of the blue screen appearing at the bottom it will say press F6 if you need to add SCSI drivers. So you tap F6 a coupla times quickly, and windows will keep installing a bunch of generic stuff, and finally stop at the "if you have SCSI drivers press S". So you put the floppy in and press "S" and then it will give you a choice of controllers to install drivers for (the .inf's on your floppy give you the selects). You then pick one and hit enter.The F6 step is to allow XP to recognize a controller not in its setup bag. F6 is a placeholder to allow you to continue past step one. Without F6 when it sees something your HDD is on it knows nothing about, it will quit setup as "there is no HDD on your system".

As far as what files to put on floppy its already here in this thread multiple times.

Edit: You were editing while I was composing - heh

 

[puck]

Well I installed Nero 7.8.5 Trial, and my NEC 3500A shows up in the "recorders" listing! I guess my old version didn't want to work anymore. THanks for all the tips!

 

[vailr]

In case anyone missed:
JMicron drivers: 1.17.17.00 WHQL

Originally posted by: macpeteo

Originally posted by: vailr
New driver versions:
JMicron drivers: 1.17.15.00 WHQL
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/jmicron.htm

Edit: The JMicron driver is unchanged for the
"JMB36X Standard Dual Channel PCIE IDE Controller" version 1.0.0.0 dated 9/16/2006.
Still "Not digitally signed".

p.s. new drivers out 1.17.17.0

 

[Bozo Galora]

@ vailr

yes, thnx for heads up.
If you notice, on this one, after extracting, its not ASUS specific. Its the global drivers.
Also on the previous (xxxx.15) (ASUS) it says 36x and 37x on SD download page
These (xxxxx.17) say 36x,37x and 38x
So the good news is there are 2 new JM controllers, the bad news is that they will be on the ICH9R penryn boards.
And if ASUS already has JM drivers with ICH9R, that means penryn boards will be out lots sooner than folks think

Edit:
Oh, I just noticed you other question - - -
"Did you also try (getting AHCI to install using F6 floppy) using the latest 8.4.0.1010 beta Intel Inf drivers?"

I think you are getting info overload like I am, where all this stuff starts to just blend together into one big giant barf pie.
I clarified my post on that above to say the Intel Matrix 7.5.0.1017 F6 would not load to give me an ICH8R AHCI only inf.
The chipset inf have no F6 (8.4 beta)

 

[vailr]

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora

The chipset inf have no F6 (8.4 beta)

An F6 floppy can be made using the "All" folder from the 8.4.0.1010 beta drivers.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/vailr/2007-04-27_101809.png
Haven't tried using them, but someone's previous post mentioned getting an Intel AHCI driver showing in Dev. Man. from this drivers set, after running the Windows .exe installer (with AHCI enabled in the DS3 bios, which I also haven't done).