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vailr

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Originally posted by: Terabyte
What if you have a SATA HDD and a SATA DVD burner? Both on the intel?

Piece of cake.
As long as no IDE drives are involved (either: IDE HD or IDE optical): no problem.
Use the bios settings posted in this thread by me previously. Or alternatively, enable AHCI in bios and attempt to get that mode to work. I don't see much measurable benefit by enabling AHCI.
 
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SCSI is right for your HDD on JM
yeah! I did something right!
I suppose it was bound to happen sometime.

Does the JMicron F6 floppy look like this (in Explorer)?:
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/vailr/2007-04-12_161410.png
Not at first, for some the catalog file would change dates, on the new Core2Duo, I only have 1 floppy disk drive, and its on there for the installations.
I keep popping the USB drive back and forth between the new one and my old computer AMD Core2.
Seems that the time was off on the Core2duo, creating the Catalog to switch to 2/4/07
instead of 2/5. And maybe a bad Floppy. Both fixed (I hope)
I fixed the timezone, and altered the time manually ((couldn't connect to windows.time on either computer))

Once I got the 2/5 date to show up, f6 brought up the Jmicron
The choice here for me is AHCI 363 (if I want it, and I don't have Raid)
But during an install, there never comes the *insert floppy* for the driver you want pre-installed, like the AHCI intel
 

Bozo Galora

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Originally posted by: IS300
Bozo, I definitely wouldn't expect you to do step by step with screenshots. It seems you and vailr both have put a great deal of effort trying to help the OP and solve the problem.


Ok, I went back and re-read. So as long as I do the above quoted, I won't have any problems, right? I don't have the MOBO yet - I guess I'll have a clearer understanding of everything once I actually get the board. As for the DFI Mobo, thanks, I just might get that, although buying boards that have just come out may introduce newly discovered problems of their own.

No, actually thats not what to do.
Ignore everything on page 1
vailr pointed me in the right direction to configure everything fully.
Start with page 2.

:Q

 

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Originally posted by: vailr
Originally posted by: Terabyte
What if you have a SATA HDD and a SATA DVD burner? Both on the intel?

Piece of cake.
As long as no IDE drives are involved (either: IDE HD or IDE optical): no problem.
Use the bios settings posted in this thread by me previously. Or alternatively, enable AHCI in bios and attempt to get that mode to work. I don't see much measurable benefit by enabling AHCI.

Sweet. I was worried I might run into problems like the OP had when I get my PC finally up and running tonight (fingers crossed) but since I'm using all SATA, looks like I'm good to go as far as that is concerned.
 
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Alright results:
Seagate SATA HDD on Jmicron (5 Master)
LG IDE DVDrw on Jmicron (4 Master)

Intel All 4 turned off
Intel SATA Disabled
Native Disabled

Onboard SATA/IDE enabled
Onboard Ctrl Mode AHCI

f6 choose Jmicron AHCI 363
Delete Partition, format
Install Windows, Nothin ever showed up again for Jmicron drivers, not like the Intel drivers on my last install
Only took 12 minutes to install, the fastest so far
I got this:
Jmicron AHCI f6 before Setup run
I missed the tab in the pic, but the DVDrw isn't listed as SCSI.
But the Jmicron 2.8mb setup.exe, doesn't change anything :disgust:


 

Stress

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vailr:

I noticed in your dev man SCSI and RAID controllers is a SCS/RAID Host Controller. No one else seems to have this device in their dev man. What does it do for you? Can you enable Raid Write Cache?
 

vailr

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Originally posted by: Stress
vailr:

I noticed in your dev man SCSI and RAID controllers is a SCS/RAID Host Controller. No one else seems to have this device in their dev man. What does it do for you? Can you enable Raid Write Cache?

That device is from having installed the Alcohol 120% virtual CD/DVD drive. Clicking "Driver Details" shows one driver: jgogo.sys (the JMicron driver).
 

Bozo Galora

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Originally posted by: Stress
vailr:

I noticed in your dev man SCSI and RAID controllers is a SCS/RAID Host Controller. No one else seems to have this device in their dev man. What does it do for you? Can you enable Raid Write Cache?


I have a different take on that than my friend vailr
I have noticed that when you install the JM as AHCI you get the JM controller as just a SCSI controller with a JM driver, which seems correct.
Remember - anything not IDE is SCSI to windows > SATA/AHCI/SATA RAID
If you install JM as RAID, you get the JMController as the SATA controller, and then a second as SCSI/RAID, both with JM drivers.
It goes back always to the fact that the friggin JM is 2 controllers, one true IDE and the other a THREE mode SATA (AHCI/RAID/IDE emulation) on one chip.
Now look at this guys screenshot again (another forum)
http://preview.rpritchett.photosite.com...os/tn/8151781_1024.ts1170168018000.jpg
He has an ASUS P5BDeluxe wifi, which has the ICH8R chipset with intel RAID/AHCI full inplementation, and the JM dual 363 controller.
He has the JM IDE showing correct - with its controller showing in IDE, with only a single prim/sec (not three). Note that the drivers for JM IDE part of controller STILL USE MS generic drivers (2001) in driver tab.

But in one of my configs (JM AHCI) - in Dev Man EVEN THOUGH "Disk Drives" - says SCSI Disk Device, IT IS SHOWING MS 2001 drivers in my Dev man/driver tab, I still have write caching and tagged cueing - and the hor swap hardware icon in task try. [Seagate 7200.10 on JM purple].

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/6445/diskdrivescsi1cd6.jpg
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/125/diskdrivescsi2ai9.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7513/diskdrivescsi3sm7.jpg

So if you install JM with Intel SATA off (none - none in bios) and set JM to AHCI:
You get JM 36x in IDE controllers with one pair prim/sec, MS drivers - that is to say AFTER you do the JM setup.exe from a USB stick. When you first boot there will be no burners showing, as I've said 4 times here.
You get JM 36x controller in SCSI devices, JM drivers (from the F6)
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2647/jmcontrollerdriversma6.jpg
If you install JM as RAID/AHCI no intel, you get the 36x controller AND the SCSI RAID controller with JM Drivers
If you have an Intel ICH8R board like in the previous link from other forum, and JM RAID, you will have ............
JM 36x IDE with JM 1.0.0.0 drivers
JM 36x controller with JM drivers
JM SCSI RAID with JM drivers
Intel SCSI RAID with Intel drivers
Since the guy in the link had no SCSI RAID JM, only JM 36x controller, I assume he loaded JM as AHCI, which makes sense since he had Intel RAID.

One more thing - when you turn on Intel SATA in NON AHCI mode and do the intel infinstall thing, you get the Intel 2820 2 port and 2825 4 port devices in IDE controllers. One must be careful to differentiate between ports and channels. A normal old IDE mobo has 2 ports and 4 channels (Prim/sec, prim/sec)
Now look at this manual screenshot
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4481/manualscreenie3lk7.jpg
Notice there are 8 channels showing
4 Master, and 2 master/slave
0-3 is the 2825 Intel 4 port device (native mode SATA 4 masters)
4-4 and 5-5 are the Intel 2820 2 port device (IDE mode prim/sec - prim/sec)
These have nothing to do with JM, since it goes up to 7
This is why there are 3 prim/sec in dev man IDE controller - 1 pair for JM IDE, 2 pair for Intel
When you turn on Intel AHCI and you do the Intel AHCI hack, two pair of prim/sec disappear, and 2820 and 2825 get Intel drivers.
now lets look at this manual shot:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6552/manualscreenshot2wp4.jpg
Note how they have separated the 0-1 master/master from the 2-3 master master, 4-5 master/slave.
and heres what they say
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3295/manualscreenshot1fi3.jpg
This may tell you that the opticals have to be on ports 3 or 4, but I wont know until I get my 2 raptors and Pioneers SATA DVD from newegg (for my DFI board)

Really insane


 

Stress

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Thanks to vailr and Bozo Galora for jm driver info.

I used the jm 363 version 16.1 extracted f6 drivers from Station Drivers for my raid0 and ide dvd devices for my ds3 rev 2 xp pro build in January. I wasn't able to use the later jm f6 drivers at that time because xp didn't recognize them. I updated drivers through dev man to latest jm drivers for both raid0 and dvd writer using procedures outlined by Bozo Galora and vailr. I never had any problems with reading dvd's or writing cd's with my dvd reader/writer. I haven't tried writing dvd's mainly because I don't have media or a need right now to write dvd's. I didn't know windows xp had a native dvd write capability, I thought it was only native cd write capability. My ide dvd device is an OEM Sony NEC Optiarc E-IDE / ATAPI DVD Burner. Maybe the 16.1 drivers worked because they are a microsoft build, not gigbyte or j micro.

I followed a couple of other forums in which poster complained about poor raid0 performance on ds3 boards with the jm ports instead of ich8r ports. It seems ich8r allows use of the intel matrix drivers in which raid write caching can be enabled. The jm system doesn't seem to have that capability (at least yet). Some posters refer to a jm utility to enable write caching, but I've never seen an actual link and my searches turn up empty. Anyway, maybe jm will someday help out us poor gigabyte ds3 users, I can only hope.
 

Stress

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Bozo Galora I wrote my previous post before I saw your post.

I noticed the write cache box available on your screen shot. It's still greyed out for my raid0 drives, but I didn't try the intel hack w/ ahci enabled, maybe that's the trick, or maybe it only works for a single drive, not raid drives? I'll try the intel hack again w/ ahci enabled (I can to back and forth w/o any noticable problems). If you try your raptors in a raid on your ds3 let us know if you get the write cache option to work.

Thanks again for all the work and advice.

 

Bozo Galora

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Yeah, sometimes I also write stuff when others are writing - heh.
Thats write cache on the JM in AHCI, single drive
You guys have to keep this stuff sorted out in your mind (actually, this mobo is more trouble than its worth)
For 6 months I was using legacy IDE across all the JM and Intel, and I was fairly happy. I dont recall having any probs whatsoever. Now that I know a lot more, it bugs me. "Ignorance is bliss" -
Intel AHCI hack is a whole nuther ball of wax
Still experimenting with that.

FWIW, for peeps who have been complaining they have writing or read probs on the JM, I decided to make a test disc in Nero toolkit, dvdspeed, "run test"/create disc and after creating disc, did some of their basic tests (Pioneer 111D on JM IDE - 40X CD Spec)
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/2148/neropioneeronjmidekd7.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2190/neropioneertytestaq8.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2447/neropioneerty2scanem2.jpg

Everything looks good, right?

Whille I am not into lunatic fringe overclocking, I decided to test my RAM bandwidth in Sandra with my mild 440FSB O/C @ 1:1
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8851/sandrmemtestww2.jpg
Not bad. Still waiting for my enzotech HS (maybe the IFX-14 too) and silent X fans before I try some more.

FWIW, I already have the DFI P965p-S from ewiz. Thats why I am getting the raptors and the Pioneer SATA burner. However, with these items I can further test the DS3 as to the AHCI hack, and whether all AHCI features are functional, or just a phony dev man entry.
And waiting for the Intel price cuts/new chips for my DFI

 
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out of curiosity, what did I do wrong in my previous setup?
Because I do have a Burner showing up.

As far as Windows only doing CDs, may be right, but I get an error copying the file(s) to the Drive.
 

Bozo Galora

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Originally posted by: DeathscytheHELL
out of curiosity, what did I do wrong in my previous setup?
Because I do have a Burner showing up.
Onboard
As far as Windows only doing CDs, may be right, but I get an error copying the file(s) to the Drive.

I didnt mention anything about windows doing only CD's. I said CD @ 40X when II used my Pioneer for a CD test, because the DVD test takes too long. And I think yoiu have a hardware problem - cable/HDD/DVD or Win XP. I asked what and where and under what mode you are putiing things currently - no answer.

As far as you already having a burner showing, I cant answer until you give me the info

HDD brand and model and transfer type, where they are placed
DVD brand and model and transfer type, where they are placed

At time of XP install............
Did you use F6 Floppy and what did you pick at "S" selection?
All Bios settings for JM
Integrated Peripherals
Onboard IDE
(Enabled/disabled)
IDE mode
(AHCI, RAID, IDE)

ALL bios settings fior Intel
Standard CMOS
0-1 Master
auto none manual
IDE 2-3 master, 4-5 master/slave
Ide auto detection
Auto
IDE extended
Auto, NONE
Integrated Peripherals
SATA AHCI mode (enabled/disabled)
SATA Port 0-3 (4 ports) Native mode (enabled/disabled)

Edit - to shut off Intel you need none and none.
 

MDIndexer

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Originally posted by: vailr

HD's:
2x Seagate 80 GB 7200.3 SATA Raid array on purple JMicron ports
Seagate 160 GB 7200.9 SATA on first Intel port (leave disconnected during Windows installation)
Optical: Samsung SATA DVD-R on 2nd Intel port

Bios: Disabled: CIA2, C1E, EIST, Virtuliz. Tech., No Execute, "Limit CPUID to 3", Spread Spect.
PCI Express: locked @ 100 MHz, PCI @ 33 MHz
PCI Latency Timer(CLK): 64
SATA AHCI Mode: Disabled
SATA Port 0-3: Enabled
Onboard SATA/IDE Device: Enabled
" " Control Mode: Raid/IDE

Preparation: Use WinRar to extract the contents of the JMB36X_WinDrv_WHQL_R1.17.11.exe file
downloaded from:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/jmicron.htm
Once extracted, you find a "Floppy32" folder.
Copy the contents of that folder to a floppy disk.
F6 floppy should look like this:
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/vailr/2007-04-12_161410.png
Use when installing WinXP SP2 (F6 floppy driver mode).
Install WinXP SP2 on raided drives, using F6 floppy install for the JMicron Raid driver.
After WinXP SP2 is installed, run the JMicron .exe [Windows version] driver installer; and run the Intel Inf drivers installer.
Connect 3rd SATA HD to Intel port.

Vailr:
Thanks for the detailed instructions. I have a quick question.
My hardware is as follows:
HD's:
- 2x Seagate 7200.10 250GB SATA 3.0Gb HD's in Raid 1 array on purple JMicron ports. This will be my D Drive.
- 1x Western Digital Raptor 36GB 10,000 RPM SATA150 HD (Will install windows on this cause its faster). This will be my C: Drive. Set on 1st Intel port.
Optical:
- Samsung IDE DVD±R on IDE Channel.

I read through this post and 3 other VERY long posts and am pretty confused due to my need to use IDE and both the JMicron ports and Intel ports.

Should my install be as follows?
Basic info setup in Bios:
Disabled: CIA2, C1E, EIST, Virtuliz. Tech., No Execute, "Limit CPUID to 3", Spread Spect.
PCI Express: locked @ 100 MHz, PCI @ 33 MHz
PCI Latency Timer(CLK): 64
SATA AHCI Mode: Disabled
SATA Port 0-3: Enabled
Onboard SATA/IDE Device: Enabled
Control Mode: Raid/IDE

1.) Preparation: Use WinRar to extract the contents of the JMB36X_WinDrv_WHQL_R1.17.11.exe file
downloaded from:
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/jmicron.htm
Once extracted, you find a "Floppy32" folder.
Copy the contents of that folder to a floppy disk.
F6 floppy should look like this:
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/vailr/2007-04-12_161410.png
Use when installing WinXP SP2 (F6 floppy driver mode).
2.) Install WinXP SP2 on single Western Digital Raptor 10K rpm drive. using F6 floppy install for the JMicron Raid driver.
3.) After WinXP SP2 is installed, run the JMicron .exe [Windows version] driver installer;
4.) Run the Intel Inf drivers installer.

At this point I should have a C and D drive with the 250 Mirrored drive being my D Drive.

Would this work? I should be getting my hardware from newegg tommorow (according to ups).

Thanks again in advance.
OO
 
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As you can see in my last post, I have listed all the relative Bios Settings
And always said where the hardware have been placed, and in the case of the IDE DVDrw burner, even listed where the Master/Slave Jumper was set, and that it was set on the master of the IDE cable itself.(not terribly important when alone on the cable)

Motherboard is still DS3 rev 3.3, Bios f10

The HDD has always been the Seagate SATA Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS
(and after I was told about the 150/300 mode jumper, I removed it to enable the faster transfer rate.)
Mostly been placed on JMicron(Gigabyte) SATA cable 5 Master, the top slot
There is no real sense in putting it in the Second Slot 5 Slave
Except the try I made on the Intel in which case it was on 0 Master (the first Intel slot)

The DVDrw is an LG super multidrive IDE model. GSA-H42N-BK
(when this hardware's working state was in doubt, I exchanged it with a working IDE Benq Dual Layer DVDrw that I knew worked and had the same results, so I went back to the LG) This has Always been placed on the JMicron(Gigabyte) IDE in the Master postition with matching jumper setting on the DVDrw
Again there would be no sense in place it on 4 Slave

One more set of information:
The USB device I use is an External Enclosure with an IDE 120GB WesternDigital Special Edition Hard Driver inside.

EVERY INSTALL After you came up with the plan to turn off the Intels, that is what I have been doing.
All the way down to changing auto detect to NONE on the 0-3 Masters.

After turning off the Ports0-3
I have made sure that
SATA AHCI mode was disabled
SATA Port0-3 Native was disabled
These two options shouldn't matter once they weren't being used, until I run the Intel Hack and turn them back on.

Onboard SATA/IDE Controller is Enabled
Onboard Ctrl Mode AHCI or IDE or Raid/Ide as stated in the tries listed above.

I had problems with the driver from drivers-station, until yesterday.
But before then, when I downloaded the 1.17 (.08 i think) drivers from Jmicron.
and have tried f6 load of AHCI, and RAID drivers also listed above

This is a copy of one of my earlier tries (a failure, probably because the Jmicron pre-install failed.)
Originally posted by: DeathscytheHELL
This LOOKS like yours... but doesn't work like yours
Well, it looks like yours, but I am assuming something is wrong.

My primary IDE and Secondary IDE still say Microsoft drivers.
Does yours say intel?
-especially want to know if this should work to just plug in my SATA ODD-

Installation was:
0-3 Master was turned to NONE
AHCI was Disabled
Native disabled
Onboard SATA/IDE enabled
Ctrl Mode :: IDE

f6 Intel AHCI, even tho it didnt make sense
tried to f6 Jmicron, no success with any version of floppy, error in the .oem
Install windows
Ran Jmicron setup, ran Intel chipset utility, reboot
changed Ctrl Mode to AHCI
turned on Intels AHCI and Native, even though I don't have to
Everything appears as above with a Jmicron auto-run for the Dual PCI Controller and the Switch to the Intel 82801HB controller (from the two seperate controllers)

What else do I need to tell you that I haven't been?


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My unanswered question still remains:
Should a Second screen show up after I use f6 to choose to pre-install Jmicron AHCI or Raid drivers?
When I pre-installed the Intel drivers, a second screen asking me to put in the Intel Matrix floppy came up. Before Windows started up.
I have never been able to tell if my choosing to pre-install Jmicron 363 AHCI or Raid drivers actually has done anything.
 
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For example my try tonight:
SATA HDD on Jmicron 5 (master)
IDE ODD on Jmicron 4 (master)

Master 0-3 None (turned off)

SATA AHCI Mode :: disabled
SATA Port0-3 Native :: Disabled

Onboard SATA/IDE Device :: Enabled
Onboard Ctrl Mode :: AHCI

f6 Jmicron (1.17 from station-drivers) 363 AHCI drivers
Delete partition, format, install windows
No SCSI/RAID controller shows in Device Manager, DVDrw is shown (no scsi in name)
Run Jmicron Setup.exe, no choices offered, reboot
SCSI/RAID controller shows up, DVDrw still shows up (no scsi in name)
Install Intel chipset, reboot, Finally the Jmicron IDE Controller shows up
choosing the folders in the Jmicron setup file fail to install properly
But if I run the Jmicron setup again, it only installs the Jmicron Dual Channel IDE Controller and that pops The second Jmicron Controller up into the IDE connections, as JM Dual Channel IDE controller.

But I have never come into a reboot without the DVDrw showing up - Ever

Install NERO, Run a test with a DVD-r, "pma update failure" at 7%
 

Bozo Galora

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@DeathscytheHELL

Well, let me explain.
This thread is now 4 agonizing pages. And like everyone else, you have tried many different configs and driver installs.
What I should have said is that I needed a snapshot at this exact moment in time with your transfer problem, with that moments HW config. It is unfair to ask me "what did I do wrong"? You had also talked about buying a SATA drive - so I didnt know what was happening with that. You also said Fri was your deadline, but its now Saturday.

Now, thanks to this thread, and coupled with my obsession about understanding the reasons why computers do certain things, I have fresh installed XP SP2 12 times. When you do the math of around 35min each, you get 7 hours of joy just for that. The problem here is that by the nature of what we are doing, we cant just image the O/S - we have to go thru the whole enchilada each time. After a while one begins to lose the ability to recall what was actually done to be successful. Now that you have prompted me it comes back that I was having trouble getting the JM named IDE controller listed, so I used NLITE 1.3 final (just out) to SLIPSTREAM the JM driver pak into my XP SP2 CD. I also slipstreamed the X32 floppy, but that was no help after the fact. Thats why I had no burners showing - something VERY frequent in other forums about the DS3.
[As a side note, nlite is the answer for PC with no floppy].
link

So, at that early ttime in my DS3 journey, because I wanted to force the JM IDE controller in dev man, I did not use F6. As a result, after XP install I had no IDE showing, I had the JM generic 36X under SCSI controller and another JM under it as a yellow question mark (it didnt know if I wanted RAID because of no F6 "S" select option), so when I used my USB stick to do the JM setup.exe, I finally got my JM IDE controller showing in IDE controllers, and the questionmark raid was gone, because it now knew I didnt have RAID configured in BIOS. In other words, with the latest JM R17.11.02, this is now irrelevant. JM did add an inf file to the 17.11 that the 17.08 didnt have.

I might mention here you have to set "none" twice under intel - but thats a minor point. The second "none" speeds booting - nothing left on Intel to look for.at boot.

Getting back to your specifics. I still think you have a hardware prob.
I think it has to do with RAM, RAM settings, MIT bios settings and voltages
Repeating 2 things first---
One MUST use an XP SP2 embedded CD.
One must NOT overclock anything during O/S install and config., keep FSB at 266 and 2.0X (1:1), which will show as 533 in blue.

Having said that, I want you to buy and try some +R DVD - just for the heck of it.
I need you to download and run CPU-Z 1.39 and give me screenshots of memory and SPD tabs
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
I need you to download Intel TAT and give me temps
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392/mirrors.php

And, most importantly, I want you to download orthos (dual core) and run it for an hour
http://sp2004.fre3.com/sp2004exe_20060405.cab
http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=1901991

Im really thinking upping some of the various voltages will fix your prob WITH ONE BIG CAVEAT -
If you have the JM loaded as AHCI (which you do), then you must have the JM 36x controller showing in IDE controllers, or you will indeed have optical burning problems, since it will confuse XP and try to work the IDE DVD as a SATA device. So your drive wont burn or will disappear after a while, or change drive letters, Those that use JM SATA side in IDE mode in BIOS will have no probs on green molex, since both sides can now use IDE.

And something else - non related to your prob. If you want AHCI on Intel, you must set it as AHCI in bios when you first turn intel on in bios and load hack drivers at first boot. You cant go from IDE to AHCI, but you can go from AHCI to IDE.

Yet another point on something I have advised about on other forums that absolutely no one has paid any attention to - The DS3 is a board that doesnt like to reboot on the fly (after no complete shutdown) with RAM reset in BIOS at 2.1 - 2.4V or higher. Thats why the nvidia 680i board has EPP. So just when initially setting up your computer (and IF you have issues), one should purchase a single stick of RAM 512MB that has an SPD spec to run at 1.8V., or perhaps 1.9. and use it, instead of your super trick 2X1GB high FSB LL high voltage RAM.

Just think, if vailr hadnt posted a screenshot of his correctly configured dev manager, i would have done none of this.
:Q

Edit:
Almost forgot -
What is your PSU? If you have already stated it, I apologize, but I am not going back to look - lol
 

leprchn

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I need a little help for my first build. Any help will be greatly appreciated. The following is a list of my hardware and what I want to accomplish is 74gig Raptor running XPpro sp2 and two WD 250gig 16Mb Sata 3.0 in a RAID 1 config. Is this possible and if so what are bios settings and the order I need to do this.

WD 74gig Raptor Sata1.5
2 @ 250gig 16Mb cache Sata3.0]
2 @ 20x Lite-On DVD burner Sata
1 floppy
e6600 conroe
evga geforce 7900 KO
Tt Toughpower 700W PSU

Can anyone help?

I have copied Floppy32 folder to floppy per vailr instr. and also have downloaded Intel inf 8.4.0.1010beta
 

vailr

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@MDIndexer:
In case you weren't aware: a raid 0 array will benchmark much faster than a single HD.
Your two Raided 7200 SATA HD's may well benchmark faster than a single 10,000 RPM Raptor HD.
To sum up, fastest to slowest:
1. Intel Matrix Raid 0 (cannot be done on the DS3 board)
2. JMicron Raid 0 (can be done on the DS3)
3. Single HD on Intel port
4. Single HD on JMicron port

Fastest to slowest:
1. 10,000 RPM Raptor HD's in Raid 0.
2. 7,200 RPM HD's in Raid 0
3. 10,000 RPM HD as single drive
4. 7,200 RPM HD as single drive

Not factored in: AHCI mode enabled/disabled; and whether on JMicron port or Intel port (no data)

Edit: If the IDE optical drive is brand new: I'd suggest returning to vendor and getting a SATA optical drive.
More expensive, but definitely worth the less "headache".
Re:
2.) Install WinXP SP2 on single Western Digital Raptor 10K rpm drive. using F6 floppy install for the JMicron Raid driver.
By definition, "Raid" implies 2 or more hard drives. Therefore, no raid driver is required when only one hard drive is present.
 

MDIndexer

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Originally posted by: Bozo Galora

Now, thanks to this thread, and coupled with my obsession about understanding the reasons why computers do certain things, I have fresh installed XP SP2 12 times. When you do the math of around 35min each, you get 7 hours of joy just for that.

Wow, thats dedication.

Hopefully I dont have to install that many times to get things to work.

 

MDIndexer

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Originally posted by: vailr
@MDIndexer:
In case you weren't aware: a raid 0 array will benchmark much faster than a single HD.
Your two Raided 7200 SATA HD's may well benchmark faster than a single 10,000 RPM Raptor HD.
To sum up, fastest to slowest:
1. Intel Matrix Raid 0 (cannot be done on the DS3 board)
2. JMicron Raid 0 (can be done on the DS3)
3. Single HD on Intel port
4. Single HD on JMicron port

Fastest to slowest:
1. 10,000 RPM Raptor HD's in Raid 0.
2. 7,200 RPM HD's in Raid 0
3. 10,000 RPM HD as single drive
4. 7,200 RPM HD as single drive

Not factored in: AHCI mode enabled/disabled; and whether on JMicron port or Intel port (no data)

Edit: If the IDE optical drive is brand new: I'd suggest returning to vendor and getting a SATA optical drive.
More expensive, but definitely worth the less "headache".

Vailr:

Thanks for the quick response. I wont be running Raid 0. I will instead run Raid 1. I have lost a HD a while back and it wasnt fun.
My plan is to run the 10K raptor as the windows install HD (C Drive). then Raid 1 the 2 250GB HD's.

 

vailr

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To use any IDE drives on the DS3 board, is like re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
Too much effort for too little benefit.
 
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