Problem with new build

[Cremaster]

New build with an Athlon x2 500+ Black Edition, Gigabyte 690G-S3H, 2gig of Corsair XMS2 DDR 800, Seagate 500gig Hd. Everest runs for 24hrs, no prob, Memtest runs without a hiccup. Prime craps out after 45 seconds, Orthos too. Do I have a bum processor, or what? Running stock, No OC.
Any suggestions?
Cremaster

 

[nerp]

At stock settings, your processor shouldn't have trouble running prime or orthos. What do your temperatures look like?

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Cremaster
New build with an Athlon x2 500+ Black Edition, Gigabyte 690G-S3H, 2gig of Corsair XMS2 DDR 800, Seagate 500gig Hd. Everest runs for 24hrs, no prob, Memtest runs without a hiccup. Prime craps out after 45 seconds, Orthos too. Do I have a bum processor, or what? Running stock, No OC.
Any suggestions?
Cremaster

I have no idea. I would be inclined to think the Corsair XMS2 ""EPP"" ram would be a potential conflict - - what is the failure ??

 

[DSF]

Did you run memtest from inside Windows, or off of a boot disk?

If you haven't already, try burning a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD (just google it) and running Memtest86+ from the CD. It may catch errors that running Memtest from inside Windows wouldn't.

 

[Cremaster]

Thanks for the replies. I ran Memtest from a floppy. Temperatures were 110-115 degrees F. Orthos gives a "rounding" error. Value is 0.4 expexted 0.5 or something like that. Prime says Hardware failure.
Again thanks for your help.
Cremaster

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Cremaster
Thanks for the replies. I ran Memtest from a floppy. Temperatures were 110-115 degrees F. Orthos gives a "rounding" error. Value is 0.4 expexted 0.5 or something like that. Prime says Hardware failure.
Again thanks for your help.
Cremaster

sorry for all your trouble

I would check and verify your timings and voltage and make sure that the 'EPP' is not running you out of spec or creating some type of conflict

Once again - I don't know. But EPP was developed as an 'idiot's overclocking ram' that sometimes has a mind of it's own. Check your BIOS and see if you can find an instruction to ""Disable EPP ram"" or ""Disable SLI ram""

If you can't find something like that check your vdimm - - JEDEC standard is 1.8v. You may need 1.9v or maybe 2.0v vdimm to make the RAM 'comfortable'.

 

[Cremaster]

Just ran Orthos again after setting "Failsafe Defaults" in BIOS. Got this message after 2min 10 sec.

Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using 1024K FFT length.
FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was -4.043992000072606e+067, expected: 1.276916111849604e+016
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Torture Test ran 2 minutes 10 seconds - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
Execution halted.

I searched and could not find stress.txt.

 

[nerp]

Not good.

Go into BIOS, try manually setting CPU Multi, HTT and vcore to default stock settings. Disable Cool'N'Quiet for now. Also set any known memory timings and voltage to manufacturer spec.

If you can't get Orthos to run stably then I'd suggest trying to RMA the chip, trying it in a different motherboard or begin swapping out all your components to narrow down the cause.

 

[Scottae]

Id make sure your vcore is right... like nerp said and all you other voltages are supposed to be.

 

[bob8701]

typical prime 95 error is realted with Vcore be too low, add 0.1 volt and re run the test.

 

[Cremaster]

Disabled Cool'n"Quiet and Orthos has been running for about 2 hours, a record for this build. Everythin else is default values, except memory voltage is 2.1 as per manufacturer specs. We'll see in the morning!

 

[Amaroque]

Originally posted by: bob8701
typical prime 95 error is realted with Vcore be too low, add 0.1 volt and re run the test.

Actually it's a typical overheating error most of the time. I ran Prime95 24/7 for about 4 years as a DC project.

 

[Cremaster]

Orthos quit after 1 hour 55 min. Prime ran for 4 hours 10 min. Temps were 110F. This after disabling Cool'n'Quiet. RMA time, perhaps?

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: Cremaster
Orthos quit after 1 hour 55 min. Prime ran for 4 hours 10 min. Temps were 110F. This after disabling Cool'n'Quiet. RMA time, perhaps?

I would. You could spend some time playing with it and tweaking it and you could probably get it to run but, if I'd payed for a black edidition, whose sole purpose in the world is supposed to be for special overclocking prowess, and it couldn't run at stock speeds, I'd send it back.

 

[SickBeast]

The first thing I would do would be to re-seat the HSF (and make sure thermal paste was used!).

 

[imported_SLIM]

Just to muddy the water a little more, you might mention what PSU you're using and if you notice much droop in the 12v leads once you start Orthos. You might consider a small bump in the Vcore just to see if that cures the problem. Other easy things, you are using the latest motherboard bios, have all the dual core drivers from AMD, etc.

 

[Cremaster]

Slim,
i have a Coolmax CU-400T Power supply. 12v lead is from 12.110 to 12.170 v then goes to 12.040 to 12.200 after I start Prime or Orthos. I ahve the latest BIOS from Gigabyte. Which dual core driver do I need?
Thanks again everyone for your help.
Cremaster

 

[Cremaster]

I tried running the CPU only stressing tests in Orthos and THEY seem to run fine. At least for an hour. The blended test fizzled after a couple of minutes. I did bump the vcore from 1.3 to 1.35. Temp is running 111F (44C) while running Orthos, so I don't think that's a problem.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Cremaster
I tried running the CPU only stressing tests in Orthos and THEY seem to run fine. At least for an hour. The blended test fizzled after a couple of minutes. I did bump the vcore from 1.3 to 1.35. Temp is running 111F (44C) while running Orthos, so I don't think that's a problem.

Good news.

Now - - - I don't think this is your problem but if you check your ram speed in CPUz you will find that it is running at 743MHz because of the AMD memory divisor.

In order to bring your ram to DDR2 800 spec all you have to do is enter the BIOS and up your cpu multi to x14. This 'technically' is not an OC because the AMD clock generator remains at 200MHz.

Your ram will then be running at DDR2 800MHz (and your cpu at 2.8GHz ).

 

[Cremaster]

Heyheybooboo,
the only verson of CPUz i can find sets off my antivirus as a trojan horse. Blended testing in Prime crapped out afted 14 minutes with the rounding error, so I upped vcore to 1.375 and it has been running for 3 hours. Maybe I have a power hungry CPU. Still running stock speeds.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Cremaster
Heyheybooboo,
the only verson of CPUz i can find sets off my antivirus as a trojan horse. Blended testing in Prime crapped out afted 14 minutes with the rounding error, so I upped vcore to 1.375 and it has been running for 3 hours. Maybe I have a power hungry CPU. Still running stock speeds.

mmm ...

could be vdroop on your mobo but I've not aware of any complaints on that Gigabyte.

It's odd because folks are getting 3GHz+ on stock volts no sweat.

If the cpu stress runs fine and you fail with the blend, would that not be the ram?

I keep coming back to it, but tweaking on the ram would seem to be the road to success to me. Did you find a setting to ""Disable SLI RAM"" ?

Have you done the ol' """ Ctrl-F1 """ trick when you enter the BIOS?

 

[Cremaster]

Prime ran for 24 hours AFTER I got an RMA form Newegg. Go figure! Tried Orthos and it crapped out after less than 2 minutes. It's goin' back. Hope next one is better. hhbb, never found a ***Disable SLI ram*** Setting in the BIOS even when doing the ***Ctrl-F1*** Thing. Maybe I'll order some different RAM to have on hand if the next one does the same thing. thanks again everyone. I'll keep y'all updated.
Cremaster

 

[Cremaster]

Originally posted by: Cremaster
New build with an Athlon x2 500+ Black Edition, Gigabyte 690G-S3H, 2gig of Corsair XMS2 DDR 800, Seagate 500gig Hd. Everest runs for 24hrs, no prob, Memtest runs without a hiccup. Prime craps out after 45 seconds, Orthos too. Do I have a bum processor, or what? Running stock, No OC.
Any suggestions?
Cremaster

Two weeks later...
RMA'd CPU, Replaced RAM with G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400), same Mobo, same HDD.

Same Problem. Runs Memtest and Microsoft Memory Test fine. Craps out on Prime and Orthos. All BIOS settings are on auto, VCore 1.3 . Voltages were all stable. Temps were around 40C when Prime and Orthos quit. I'm at a loss

 

[DorkWild]

Cremaster, did you ever resolve the problem?
I have the same board with an x2 4600, 4x1gb of gskill rated to run 1.9 to 2.1v. 450w FSP psu.
I've had some issues with the ram. Seems my board doesn't like ram that runs at anything other than 1.8v. I borrowed some 1.8v Adata from a friend, and it worked fine, though it was only 2x1gb. Problem worsens when using four sticks. The board seems to be quite particular about which stick is in which slot too. Sometimes it works seemingly fine for a month, then starts acting up. Just recently, after I finally got all 4 sticks working acceptably for several months, I suddenly had no video signal. Remove one pair of sticks, and it's fine again. Apparently the 2nd pair I got were weak all along.
I tried every ram voltage, but I'd suggest auto, which will default to 1.8. Move up from there. Try different slots. Borrow some 1.8v ram if you can. I'm sure you were getting dual channel? All your standoffs installed? I'm sure you've tried loading failsafe and optimal defaults? All the other bios settings to auto?

I'm getting the 5000 BE, along with 2x2gb of mushkin econo ram @ 1.8v delivered tomorrow. I'm hoping there won't be any more problems, but if there is, it's just about got to be the board, since I've checked the psu.