problems with A-DATA S599/SF1200?

[magreen]

Microcenter G2 = problems with wake and no drive found ( no solution ) 0% trust.

what controller is that?

name of the thread, man. Sandforce 1200.

 

[Davidh373]

what controller is that?

That's a rebranded ADATA. So Sandforce, but I doubt that is a problem with the controller. It's likely the memory.

 

[taltamir]

name of the thread, man. Sandforce 1200.

the name of the thread is "A-DATA S599/SF1200". Not "Microcenter G2/SF1200".

That's a rebranded ADATA.

thank you for clarifying.

 

[magreen]

That's a rebranded ADATA. So Sandforce, but I doubt that is a problem with the controller. It's likely the memory.

I'm not so sure it's not the controller. Take a look at the quotes I quoted above from the Customer Service Depts. of both OCZ and A-DATA about the problems they're having with their Sandforce drives.

the name of the thread is "A-DATA S599/SF1200". Not "Microcenter G2/SF1200".

hey man, it's cool, I didn't mean anything by it.

 

[Davidh373]

I'm not so sure it's not the controller. Take a look at the quotes I quoted above from the Customer Service Depts. of both OCZ and A-DATA about the problems they're having with their Sandforce drives.

yes.. but both companies also make crappy memory... take that into consideration when making your judgements. Also, consider what any company would do to blame the other guys before they take any of the blame for themselves. My friend and boss has had an OCZ Agility 2 60GB SSD for close to 6 months now, and I also notice there aren't many posts about serious problems like the one's you are pointing out. So what you are looking at are isolated incidents, and companies saying anything to get themselves off the shit list.

I can't say for sure if it's the controller or the memory, but the fact of the matter is you don't either. It could be either/or, or even both causing the problems.

 

[magreen]

yes.. but both companies also make crappy memory... take that into consideration when making your judgements. Also, consider what any company would do to blame the other guys before they take any of the blame for themselves. My friend and boss has had an OCZ Agility 2 60GB SSD for close to 6 months now, and I also notice there aren't many posts about serious problems like the one's you are pointing out. So what you are looking at are isolated incidents, and companies saying anything to get themselves off the shit list.

I can't say for sure if it's the controller or the memory, but the fact of the matter is you don't either. It could be either/or, or even both causing the problems.

You're equating this to the normal RMA process that companies use to handle unavoidable error rates and faulty hardware. But take a look around the newegg reviews when someone has a bad experience with other hardware. Companies normally say, "sorry for your negative experience, we'll be happy to replace your item. Please call our customer service."

What they do NOT normally do is raise a red flag and say, we know, there's a widespread problem with ALL of our drives, and we don't have a fix yet!

They have to be in really deep doo-doo to say something like that. The response we're seeing here is worlds apart from the regular way they handle RMAs and such.

So yeah, you could be right, it's theoretically possible that two separate companies are having systemic, repeated problems with their memory--beyond any faulty hardware rates that they normally have when they sell memory and which they handle through their normal RMA process--and are admitting they can't fix it, and are dumping blame on the controller.

But that's just really unlikely.

 

[Davidh373]

What they do NOT normally do is raise a red flag and say, we know, there's a widespread problem with ALL of our drives, and we don't have a fix yet

Yeah... all the drives except for the one my friend has, and many classmates have... and the ones I recommend everyday that people report are working after they finish their build... yeah... so all the drives except those... One thing though, I do only recommend the OCZ Vertex/Agility, or Corsair Force. I would never recommend ADATA anything...

They have to be in really deep doo-doo to say something like that. The response we're seeing here is worlds apart from the regular way they handle RMAs and such.

So yeah, you could be right, it's theoretically possible that two separate companies are having systemic, repeated problems with their memory--beyond any faulty hardware rates that they normally have when they sell memory and which they handle through their normal RMA process--and are admitting they can't fix it, and are dumping blame on the controller.

They would pull them off the market if they were that bad. I still see many OCZ SSDs are still available to buy, as are GSkill, Corsair, ect. If all, or even most of the drives were bad, then they could not afford to keep replacing them for people.

 

[taltamir]

hey man, it's cool, I didn't mean anything by it.

it's cool, I didn't mean to sound defensive.

 

[magreen]

@tal:

@davidh: well, of course you could be right. But I still find what I said above pretty persuasive, given that companies would lose a heck of a lot more money by pulling all their products off the shelf than by replacing things piecemeal and telling their users to wait for a fix. Especially given how unanimous the reviewers' praise has been for the Sandforce drives, it takes a lot of bad incidents before that good will runs dry.

 

[Emulex]

who is the manufacturer for support if we call microcenter? ADATA?
Maybe adata will fix our drives.

anyone notice the ADATA drives do not show up in the generic sandforce update utility that every other SF drive uses?

maybe these are pir8 sandforce controllers argh

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

I'm having the same problem with the Microcenter SSD 64GB I bought a few weeks ago, and it seems to be getting progressively worse. Think I'm just going to return the drive while I can, don't see Microcenter making any moves to fix this quickly or A-Data wanting to fix Microcenter's re-badged drives.

 

[GundamF91]

It's not 2 company or 2 products, the Microcenter is just rebadged AData drive, so it's really the AData drive that's having this problem. I like AData actually. I've had AData DDR2/DDR3 for some time, and they run well. Too bad about this problem for them.

 

[postmortemIA]

I really don't get this, why people buy risky stuff because it is 10% cheaper and 10% faster, yet 100% less reliable? Intel probably has larger QC dept than others have R&D depts.

I do have intel drive in XP, it works fine. And I haven't seen that issue of degradation, it benchmarks same as on first day.

 

[magreen]

I really don't get this, why people buy risky stuff because it is 10% cheaper and 10% faster, yet 100% less reliable? Intel probably has larger QC dept than others have R&D depts.
. . .

yep. In this case, I think it's partially the reviewers' faults. I haven't seen anyone--including Anand--mention the reliability problems with the Sandforce drives. But the errors seem prevalent, more than just isolated anecdotes (see messages from OCZ & A-Data cust. serv. depts. above)

 

[Davidh373]

Oh user error... you are so funny

User: "I ate this banana but it tasted gross and bitter"

Support: "Sir, did you remove the peel first"

User: "What on God's green earth is a peel?"

 

[nvidiafx2004]

Hello,

I have just updated firmware of my a-data s599 to 3.4.6 and problem solved. No bsod for one week
Link to firmware
http://www.adata.com.tw/index.php?action=product_download&cid=3&piid=33

 

[taltamir]

Hello,

I have just updated firmware of my a-data s599 to 3.4.6 and problem solved. No bsod for one week
Link to firmware
http://www.adata.com.tw/index.php?action=product_download&cid=3&piid=33

who are you? what was your problem?

this is your first and ONLY post on anandtech as of 1-10-2011. so its a bit odd that you talk about having solved your problem here before ever letting us know you had one.

 

[nvidiafx2004]

who are you? what was your problem?

this is your first and ONLY post on anandtech as of 1-10-2011. so its a bit odd that you talk about having solved your problem here before ever letting us know you had one.

Hi,
i am a user, I had followed this thread since i bought A-data S599 64GB. When i installed windows 7 on it, after one day, my system cause random BSOD, and bios could not deteted my ssd , just power off and on again my ssd work normal. I search google for firmware update but have no result. and i intalled OS on Seagate, my system work normal. But a week ago, I search google again for firmware update for my ssd, lucky i found it, after update i install windows 7 on my ssd, and power on my computer for a week, no BSOD , Thanks god

 

[taltamir]

Hi,
i am a user, I had followed this thread since i bought A-data S599 64GB. When i installed windows 7 on it, after one day, my system cause random BSOD, and bios could not deteted my ssd , just power off and on again my ssd work normal. I search google for firmware update but have no result. and i intalled OS on Seagate, my system work normal. But a week ago, I search google again for firmware update for my ssd, lucky i found it, after update i install windows 7 on my ssd, and power on my computer for a week, no BSOD , Thanks god

thank you

so same problem as the op, solved via firmware update.
OP, how about you try it too?

 

[magreen]

thank you

so same problem as the op, solved via firmware update.
OP, how about you try it too?

Me? I was trying to figure out which SSD to buy. I solved my problem by buying an intel x25-m g2 instead. :biggrin:

 

[taltamir]

oops. I missed the "newegg review" part.