Problems with perception

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: phatj
thought u were talking about depth perception

Thinking along those same lines.

170k for 2 people is $85k per person. People make that their first year out of college.

I didn't make that my first year out of... wait you meant after graduating. n/m

Find new richer friends.

fixed

The OP's story sounds a little off. Like he'd made it all up or that although he doesn't really think he's bragging, he really is bragging. Some unnamed mysterious job that's "a position of extreme responsibility" that he elevated from the bottom while in college. Working 50 hours a week, on call, and building their own 4500 sq. ft. house. Hell he could be telling the truth. What do I know? I hope he invites us all to his house warming party once it's all done. And those of us who don't get invited, egg his house.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: pinion9
People seem to have a perception that we think we are better than them.
How can we change this?

make friends with people who're normal and aren't jealous of the shyt you've worked hard to get.

 

[everman]

Congrats OP, you've discovered one of the key things that causes so much trouble in human societies, jealousy. Yes, they wish they had what you have and many would rather they have it than you, and many will stab you in the back for it, as you well know. That's how people are and how the world works for the most part.

You will find some people who can look beyond it all and see who you are, make sure what they see is what you'd like them to see. These are rare, you won't find many at all but they do exist. Good Luck

 

[tfcmasta97]

soooo... buy me a car and i can let it slide...

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
We've already established that his income places him in the top 1% of America. That's hardly middle class. In fact, it's the very definition of elite.

hahahahhahahaaha

oh wait..

bwwwwahaaahhahahah

you can't be serious?

 

[Taggart]

Originally posted by: spidey07

rather low income level.

A family making $170k anywhere in the US is not 'low' income. You have a warped sense of reality.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: spidey07

rather low income level.

A family making $170k anywhere in the US is not 'low' income. You have a warped sense of reality.

maybe so. I'm just trying to help you guys be successful.

but really, that isn't a high income by any stretch. Two professionals combined should be pulling that in. Even here in KY that's the norm. Heck factory workers make 85K and much more. Hence - middle class.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: spidey07

rather low income level.

A family making $170k anywhere in the US is not 'low' income. You have a warped sense of reality.

maybe so. I'm just trying to help you guys be successful.

but really, that isn't a high income by any stretch. Two professionals combined should be pulling that in. Even here in KY that's the norm. Heck factory workers make 85K and much more. Hence - middle class.

I think you might be high. Median household income in Kentucky is 33,672. Only 50% of people make higher than 33k. Well below the norm.

 

[oztrailrider]

The sort of perception you are talking about seems to be becoming more common. I think it all comes down to the fact that people are just lazy, not willing to put in the hard yards to achieve the things they dream about in life. Then when they do see someone enjoying success, they wonder "what did he do to get all that?!". As long as you are getting what you want out of life that's all that matters. I don't think there is a whole lot you can do to change that perception.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

just do whatever the helll you want

dont waste your time thinking about other people

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: spidey07

rather low income level.

A family making $170k anywhere in the US is not 'low' income. You have a warped sense of reality.

maybe so. I'm just trying to help you guys be successful.

but really, that isn't a high income by any stretch. Two professionals combined should be pulling that in. Even here in KY that's the norm. Heck factory workers make 85K and much more. Hence - middle class.

I think you might be high. Median household income in Kentucky is 33,672. Only 50% of people make higher than 33k. Well below the norm.

LOL:thumbsup:

OP, good friends are always there for you, and you for them. They are not there to judge you. Confront the comments directly, and get a dialogue going. If it is something she can't get over, then you may need to move on from that friendship.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
We've already established that his income places him in the top 1% of America. That's hardly middle class. In fact, it's the very definition of elite.

hahahahhahahaaha

oh wait..

bwwwwahaaahhahahah

you can't be serious?

I have the compiled statistics for the United States backing me up buddy, what the fvck do you have other than a warped sense of reality???

Income Statistics

Yes, his income places him above the top 1% in the country. Absolute, total, 100% supported from EVERY source, fact.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
We've already established that his income places him in the top 1% of America. That's hardly middle class. In fact, it's the very definition of elite.

hahahahhahahaaha

oh wait..

bwwwwahaaahhahahah

you can't be serious?

I have the compiled statistics for the United States backing me up buddy, what the fvck do you have other than a warped sense of reality???

Income Statistics

Yes, his income places him above the top 1% in the country. Absolute, total, 100% supported from EVERY source, fact.

Actually, $170k is not his income. It's the household income. Which would put him just into the top 5% in the nation.

For household income, to be in the top 1%, I believe the figure is roughly $330k.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: JS80
Move to Los Angeles. You'll be instantly in the lower class with that salary.

So everyone in LA makes $500k a year or more?

$170k for 2 people is $85k per person. People make that their first year out of college.

I beg to differ, you are implying that most 22 year olds right out of college make $85k. That's what pharmacists make at 24 and 6 years of school. There are a SELECT few that hit $85k right out of school, and that is in high cost of living areas like LA and NY. The VAST majority of the country is going to be a lot lower.

You think first year teachers, english majors, any government worker, etc makes $85k right out of school?

In fact, to be precise, 2004 statistics showed 10,399,000 total persons with income over 85k annually. That's about 10 million out of about 300 million. And that's not right out of school, that's total in the country. 3% of Americans make 85k per year or more. Just in case your math is as bad as your sociology, that's 97% that make less.

Well young and successful people hang out with other young successful people and that's all I know.

You'd be surprised at all the new money in LA though trying to break into old money infrastructure.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I have the compiled statistics for the United States backing me up buddy, what the fvck do you have other than a warped sense of reality???

Income Statistics

Yes, his income places him above the top 1% in the country. Absolute, total, 100% supported from EVERY source, fact.

Sorry.

guess I do have a warped sense of reality.

But all around me there are these 700-1.5 million dollar homes going up. Entire neighboorhoods. So at least here in a medium sized city, plenty of people are doing well.

and I guess your perspective really does depend on who you hang out with.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
We've already established that his income places him in the top 1% of America. That's hardly middle class. In fact, it's the very definition of elite.

hahahahhahahaaha

oh wait..

bwwwwahaaahhahahah

you can't be serious?

I have the compiled statistics for the United States backing me up buddy, what the fvck do you have other than a warped sense of reality???

Income Statistics

Yes, his income places him above the top 1% in the country. Absolute, total, 100% supported from EVERY source, fact.

Actually, $170k is not his income. It's the household income. Which would put him just into the top 5% in the nation.

For household income, to be in the top 1%, I believe the figure is roughly $330k.

I reread the tables and found my error on personal income (tables split male/female). Household I still get only 2.9% with incomes over 150k, with the median for 150-200k at 168 (still under his amount) placing him in the top 2% still.

So, you're correct that it's more than 1% (and I apologize for my bad math/table reading), but I come out that it'd be under 3% definitely, maybe under 2%.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I have the compiled statistics for the United States backing me up buddy, what the fvck do you have other than a warped sense of reality???

Income Statistics

Yes, his income places him above the top 1% in the country. Absolute, total, 100% supported from EVERY source, fact.

Sorry.

guess I do have a warped sense of reality.

But all around me there are these 700-1.5 million dollar homes going up. Entire neighboorhoods. So at least here in a medium sized city, plenty of people are doing well.

and I guess your perspective really does depend on who you hang out with.

I hear ya...I was actually SHOCKED at how many people in America make more than 100k. I was dead sure it was gonna be about a tenth of a percent. That's because of all the people I know (some with half a dozen advanced degree's and IQ's in the top .1% or better) only a couple make that much money. Hell, my brother is VP of a fair sized bank/financial company and isn't there.

It appears that there are two main factors: location and personality. I live in a very inexpensive area and I don't hang out with anyone that believes in, or cares about, money (relatively speaking).

We're ACTUAL middle class (statsistically speaking), so we view anything over 50-75k a year as effectively rich, even though numerically it's not that much. I suppose among the very wealthy, they could come to view themselves as 'middle class' because they're in the middle of their own class (even though that income level puts them into the top 1 or 2% of the nation).

Seeing how stark the differences are in perception (when confronted with the actual numbers) it's no wonder that no one is happy with our government/society.