Problems with uTorrent

Stg-Flame

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Alright, my Internet died on me about three weeks ago which I finally got back last week. When my ISP finally got out here and fixed it, I ended up with a much better speed than before. Everything is working great - I even downloaded Mythos in under 30 minutes.

Well, I flipped on uTorrent to seed a few files and to download something for my brother who is currently living without Internet service. Well, the connection status, at first, was fine. I was downloading at around 87 kb/s. Last night, the seeders dropped from 8 to 0 so it halted the download. This morning, one seeder popped back up, but the connection status says that there are no incoming connections which leaves me with a download of .04 kb/s.

I checked to see if the Port had closed or become interrupted (like 6112 does with Starcraft on occasion) and the status said that the port was fine. So I tested my Internet Speed. To my surprise, my old score was 453 kb/s and my new was 918 kb/s. So I upped the xx/512k to xx/768k as was recommended.

Now, I am not new to uTorrent, but I don't understand a lot about the BitTorrent Client aspect. I know Seeders and Leechers, but Peers I am unsure about. There are also a lot of other things in there that I don't understand, but never had to worry about before.

So, does anyone know what is going on? If not, could someone maybe give me some information about the BT Clients or link me to a site where I can learn about them?
 

Stg-Flame

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Originally posted by: ZoNtO
Are you downloading legal things?

Yes.

I know that asking about a BT Client is a sketchy situation since there is so much illegal downloading going on, but I really just need to know why my download speed went to sh!t. I seed more than I leech and I really only download things I already own. Back-up files and whatnot.
 

Leros

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Who is your provider? One day my torrenting went from my max bandwidth of about 500 KB/s down to 0.5-1 KB/s. From what I learned, my ISP was probably using traffic shapers to slow down bit torrent traffic.
 

Stg-Flame

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Do you think I should give my ISP a call? Or would this problem reside in my PC?
 

Leros

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Originally posted by: Chaoticpenguin666
Do you think I should give my ISP a call? Or would this problem reside in my PC?

I'm guessing this is exactly the behavior your ISP wants. A lot of ISPs throttle (slow down) torrent traffic.

Its really in their best interest to lose customers like you. The amount of bandwidth bit torrent users use isn't worth the slowdown it causes their entire network.

Think about it: average guy Joe next door pays the same price you do, but uses 1% the bandwidth you do. Average guy Joe's traffic is slower because of the torrents. Better to lose the torrenters and make the other 99% of their users happier.

Not saying thats right, but thats how it is.
 

Barfo

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Isn't there a blacklist of ISP that throttle bittorrent traffic out there?

In any case you should try to fix things on your end before calling them, try other clients, use another machine, the usual stuff.
 

LuDaCriS66

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while an issue with an ISP using traffic shaping is entirely possible, I'm not so sure it's the case here. You say this particular torrent only has a single seeder. Well, that's a problem right there.. even if there is a seeder, it doesn't mean they are connectible.

Try a better seeded torrent to see if you get the same issue
 

Stg-Flame

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Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: Chaoticpenguin666
Do you think I should give my ISP a call? Or would this problem reside in my PC?

I'm guessing this is exactly the behavior your ISP wants. A lot of ISPs throttle (slow down) torrent traffic.

Its really in their best interest to lose customers like you. The amount of bandwidth bit torrent users use isn't worth the slowdown it causes their entire network.

Think about it: average guy Joe next door pays the same price you do, but uses 1% the bandwidth you do. Average guy Joe's traffic is slower because of the torrents. Better to lose the torrenters and make the other 99% of their users happier.

Not saying thats right, but thats how it is.

Well, I understand what you are saying, but in my case, I use torrents probably once a month. Even at that, I am the only one within a 10 mile radius who uses this ISP.

Originally posted by: LuDaCriS66
while an issue with an ISP using traffic shaping is entirely possible, I'm not so sure it's the case here. You say this particular torrent only has a single seeder. Well, that's a problem right there.. even if there is a seeder, it doesn't mean they are connectible.

Try a better seeded torrent to see if you get the same issue

Well, here is what I am wondering about. This file originally had eight seeders. What seemed like all-of-a-sudden, the seeders dropped to zero. Now that one seeder has popped back up, I get no connectivity.

So, is the problem between me and this seeder? I randomly picked a heavily seeded file just to see and I am getting ~54 kb/s on that one, but still .04 on the original.
 

Stg-Flame

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I used Portforward for all of my port issues so I know the port is opened. I shall check that link for the forums but it seems to me that the issue with my speed is between me and the one seeder. I am not sure why I would have issues with that, but like I said before, there is a lot I don't know about Torrent Clients.
 

axhind

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If your ISP throttles torrent bandwidth (which is very likely, just like Leros already said), you can try to turn on encryption and see if your speeds and seeds improve. Here is a nice overview of different clients and their methods to activate encryption.
 

biostud

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I needed to disable DHT or all my internet would be a lagging mess, I've also turned on encryption.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: Leros
Who is your provider? One day my torrenting went from my max bandwidth of about 500 KB/s down to 0.5-1 KB/s. From what I learned, my ISP was probably using traffic shapers to slow down bit torrent traffic.

Exactly. ISPs are now illegally throttling usage. Also, stay away from uTorrent and use the real BT client. This configures your ports for you. uTorrent is shit and has serious problems with memory leaks.
 

Quiksilver

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: Leros
Who is your provider? One day my torrenting went from my max bandwidth of about 500 KB/s down to 0.5-1 KB/s. From what I learned, my ISP was probably using traffic shapers to slow down bit torrent traffic.

Exactly. ISPs are now illegally throttling usage. Also, stay away from uTorrent and use the real BT client. This configures your ports for you. uTorrent is shit and has serious problems with memory leaks.

Your joking right or is this some sort of cleverly planned troll I'm taking the bait on? uTorrent works perfectly fine their are no memory leaks, just because you've had a bad experience with it doesn't mean it's shit. I've been using it for about 2 years and have never had ANY problems. I've tried other clients liek Bit Coment, Bit Tornado, Bit Lord, and Auzerous and all of them were worse than uTorrent (Auzerous being the worst due to it being a resource hog).
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: Leros
Who is your provider? One day my torrenting went from my max bandwidth of about 500 KB/s down to 0.5-1 KB/s. From what I learned, my ISP was probably using traffic shapers to slow down bit torrent traffic.

Exactly. ISPs are now illegally throttling usage. Also, stay away from uTorrent and use the real BT client. This configures your ports for you. uTorrent is shit and has serious problems with memory leaks.

Your joking right or is this some sort of cleverly planned troll I'm taking the bait on? uTorrent works perfectly fine their are no memory leaks, just because you've had a bad experience with it doesn't mean it's shit. I've been using it for about 2 years and have never had ANY problems. I've tried other clients liek Bit Coment, Bit Tornado, Bit Lord, and Auzerous and all of them were worse than uTorrent (Auzerous being the worst due to it being a resource hog).

I agree, and as far as I know the official Bittorrent client is based on the uTorrent code isn't it?
 

LuDaCriS66

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Originally posted by: Chaoticpenguin666
Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: Chaoticpenguin666
Do you think I should give my ISP a call? Or would this problem reside in my PC?

I'm guessing this is exactly the behavior your ISP wants. A lot of ISPs throttle (slow down) torrent traffic.

Its really in their best interest to lose customers like you. The amount of bandwidth bit torrent users use isn't worth the slowdown it causes their entire network.

Think about it: average guy Joe next door pays the same price you do, but uses 1% the bandwidth you do. Average guy Joe's traffic is slower because of the torrents. Better to lose the torrenters and make the other 99% of their users happier.

Not saying thats right, but thats how it is.

Well, I understand what you are saying, but in my case, I use torrents probably once a month. Even at that, I am the only one within a 10 mile radius who uses this ISP.

Originally posted by: LuDaCriS66
while an issue with an ISP using traffic shaping is entirely possible, I'm not so sure it's the case here. You say this particular torrent only has a single seeder. Well, that's a problem right there.. even if there is a seeder, it doesn't mean they are connectible.

Try a better seeded torrent to see if you get the same issue

Well, here is what I am wondering about. This file originally had eight seeders. What seemed like all-of-a-sudden, the seeders dropped to zero. Now that one seeder has popped back up, I get no connectivity.

So, is the problem between me and this seeder? I randomly picked a heavily seeded file just to see and I am getting ~54 kb/s on that one, but still .04 on the original.


I don't know WHY 7 seeders happened to drop out of nowhere but the reason it's so slow now is because there is only 1 seeder in the entire swarm.

I think everyone is overanalysing this. Doesn't sound like any traffic shaping going on here. It's just a badly seeded torrent
 

LuDaCriS66

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: Leros
Who is your provider? One day my torrenting went from my max bandwidth of about 500 KB/s down to 0.5-1 KB/s. From what I learned, my ISP was probably using traffic shapers to slow down bit torrent traffic.

Exactly. ISPs are now illegally throttling usage. Also, stay away from uTorrent and use the real BT client. This configures your ports for you. uTorrent is shit and has serious problems with memory leaks.

Your joking right or is this some sort of cleverly planned troll I'm taking the bait on? uTorrent works perfectly fine their are no memory leaks, just because you've had a bad experience with it doesn't mean it's shit. I've been using it for about 2 years and have never had ANY problems. I've tried other clients liek Bit Coment, Bit Tornado, Bit Lord, and Auzerous and all of them were worse than uTorrent (Auzerous being the worst due to it being a resource hog).

I agree, and as far as I know the official Bittorrent client is based on the uTorrent code isn't it?

Yes, it is

 

Stg-Flame

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Originally posted by: LuDaCriS66
Originally posted by: Chaoticpenguin666
Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: Chaoticpenguin666
Do you think I should give my ISP a call? Or would this problem reside in my PC?

I'm guessing this is exactly the behavior your ISP wants. A lot of ISPs throttle (slow down) torrent traffic.

Its really in their best interest to lose customers like you. The amount of bandwidth bit torrent users use isn't worth the slowdown it causes their entire network.

Think about it: average guy Joe next door pays the same price you do, but uses 1% the bandwidth you do. Average guy Joe's traffic is slower because of the torrents. Better to lose the torrenters and make the other 99% of their users happier.

Not saying thats right, but thats how it is.

Well, I understand what you are saying, but in my case, I use torrents probably once a month. Even at that, I am the only one within a 10 mile radius who uses this ISP.

Originally posted by: LuDaCriS66
while an issue with an ISP using traffic shaping is entirely possible, I'm not so sure it's the case here. You say this particular torrent only has a single seeder. Well, that's a problem right there.. even if there is a seeder, it doesn't mean they are connectible.

Try a better seeded torrent to see if you get the same issue

Well, here is what I am wondering about. This file originally had eight seeders. What seemed like all-of-a-sudden, the seeders dropped to zero. Now that one seeder has popped back up, I get no connectivity.

So, is the problem between me and this seeder? I randomly picked a heavily seeded file just to see and I am getting ~54 kb/s on that one, but still .04 on the original.


I don't know WHY 7 seeders happened to drop out of nowhere but the reason it's so slow now is because there is only 1 seeder in the entire swarm.

I think everyone is overanalysing this. Doesn't sound like any traffic shaping going on here. It's just a badly seeded torrent

But I have gotten around 24.0 Kb/s with only one seeder before. Besides, the connection icon stayed green those times. This time, the icon has the caution symbol and says I am getting a reduced speed due to connectivity issues.

My friend said that it could be that since I skipped a lot of files in the torrent, the seeder has not uploaded the specific part I am downloading.
 
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