Processed meat can cause cancer

[William Gaatjes]

Tofu time bitches !

 

[vi edit]

While I agree in the case of some of the chemicals used, just because chemicals have scary names, doesn't mean they're necessarily unsafe at all. That's sort of fear-mongering and pandering to these nutcases on the latest fad.

I don't disagree. I'm a sucker for couple delicious chili dogs on a crisp fall day...but like so many other things it's all about moderation. I'm not delusional thinking they are remotely close to healthy healthy. But also not such a paranoid freak that thinks one or two of them is going to kill me or have any significant impact on my lifespan (not counting freak things like e-coli or other food borne illnesses that I could).

Which on the topic of real deaths from food..I probably have a higher chance of dying from a spinach salad or poorly prepared cantaloupe than a single hot dog.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Isn't raw fish consumption in Japan/Korea considered a significant part of why their stomach cancer rates are so much higher than ours? Raw, cooked, processed, doesn't matter.

EDIT: nvm, Googling it looks like it's actually broiled fish and a salt-heavy diet that is considered a risk factor, apparently.

 

[slag]

I wonder how many millions of dollars were wasted to tell us something we already knew.

pfft.

 

[Rakehellion]

 

[William Gaatjes]

I do not know what that is, but if it is the content of a bowel, that is a bad butcher. A proper butcher cuts out very carefully the heart, lungs, stomach and intestines of the carcass. And stores these for examination by a vet. At least that is what quality butchers do. When the intestines are cut open, the proper procedure is to not wash or wipe away the contamination (shit) of the carcass, but cut away a large part of the meat surrounding the contaminated spot. This is done, because the intestines carry bacteria that will be spread over the carcass when washed or wiped away.

The heart and lungs are saved to be examined. This way, the vet can see if the animal had a bacteria or virus infection when cutting open the heart and examining for example the heart valves.

Unfortunately, since the meat industry is big business and penny pinching has been done to the max, the proper procedures are not always done on every carcass and some not even at all.

EDIT:
Forgot the intestines and other organs. These are cleaned i guess and grinded for other purposes or to eat such as baked liver.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Forgot about the topic, the moral of the story is that if you eat processed meat in moderation and eat your healthy vegetables often, you will be fine. I am not going to stop eating the little amount of meat i already do. And, replace red meat for chicken or fish once in a while.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I do not know what that is, but if it is the content of a bowel, that is a bad butcher. A proper butcher cuts out very carefully the heart, lungs, stomach and intestines of the carcass. And stores these for examination by a vet. At least that is what quality butchers do. When the intestines are cut open, the proper procedure is to not wash or wipe away the contamination (shit) of the carcass, but cut away a large part of the meat surrounding the contaminated spot. This is done, because the intestines carry bacteria that will be spread over the carcass when washed or wiped away.

The heart and lungs are saved to be examined. This way, the vet can see if the animal had a bacteria or virus infection when cutting open the heart and examining for example the heart valves.

Unfortunately, since the meat industry is big business and penny pinching has been done to the max, the proper procedures are not always done on every carcass and some not even at all.

EDIT:
Forgot the intestines and other organs. These are cleaned i guess and grinded for other purposes or to eat such as baked liver.

Hard to find attribution for that photo - snopes says it could be an abscess, or just pudding.

 

[Imp]

Not a big fan of cold cuts, red meat, or bacon. I do like them hot dogs though.

Going to file this under the "meh" category like aspartame and sugar. #YOLO, yo.

On the other hand, for fux sake, can we please switch to electrical cords that aren't laced with lead. Getting tired of washing my damn hands after touching them. Me no wanna be stupids than I'ze alredy amz.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Is life worth living without processed meat?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Is life worth living without processed meat?

What unprocessed meat might look like:

Therefore - you fail.

 

[IronWing]

What unprocessed meat might look like:

Therefore - you fail.

Char causes cancer. Hell, vitamin C probably causes cancer.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Hard to find attribution for that photo - snopes says it could be an abscess, or just pudding.

I sure hope it is pudding. If there are people out there that get free meat from the butcher... Ask yourself why he would not sell it... Then again, i wonder what a quality butcher does with contaminated meat, give it away ? For the dogs ?

 

[William Gaatjes]

Char causes cancer. Hell, vitamin C probably causes cancer.

I do not know about vitamin C. But Vitamin A is highly toxic for a human at large quantities. The liver of some animals contains so much Vitamin A, that a human will get sick when eating the liver.

 

[Imp]

Char causes cancer. Hell, vitamin C probably causes cancer.

Creating your own Vitamin D causes cancer... Skin cancer, yo.

 

[Matthiasa]

Char causes cancer. Hell, vitamin C probably causes cancer.

Antioxidants have been found to accelerate the spread of melanoma once it is present. So yes vitamin C does cause cancer (to spread).

 

[William Gaatjes]

Antioxidants have been found to accelerate the spread of melanoma once it is present.

Is that not because some white blood cells use oxygen ions (free radicals) to attack cancerous cells ?

 

[Matthiasa]

It may have been more complicated like chemotherapy drugs intentionally producing oxidizing substances to kill cancer cells which antioxidants would obviously mess with.

 

[nakedfrog]

Not a big fan of cold cuts, red meat, or bacon. I do like them hot dogs though.

That's messed up.

 

[DrPizza]

Which on the topic of real deaths from food..I probably have a higher chance of dying from a spinach salad or poorly prepared cantaloupe than a single hot dog.

That would be a fascinating problem to determine if eating 1 spinach salad per day, or 1 hot dog per day would more likely lead to an early demise.

 

[Slew Foot]

So does a frozen chicken breast thats been treated with a "3% solution of salt" count as processed?

 

[sm625]

So that's why McDonald's dont taste quite like beef?

 

[ctark]

Little do they say in this article that alcohol has been given the same classification. I've been seeing this pop up on Facebook a lot today. The BBC has a better commentary on it:

"It has now placed processed meat in the same category as plutonium, but also alcohol as they definitely do cause cancer.

However, this does not mean they are equally dangerous. A bacon sandwich is not as bad as smoking."

BBC gives cervical cancer

 

[lxskllr]

I sure hope it is pudding. If there are people out there that get free meat from the butcher... Ask yourself why he would not sell it... Then again, i wonder what a quality butcher does with contaminated meat, give it away ? For the dogs ?

I've seen that before on a hog. I used to work at a bakery, and we'd get the occasional hog to cook due to the big ovens. One of them had a snot pocket in its leg. I'm not fond of the smell of cooked whole pig.

 

[BUTCH1]

I'll give up my bacon when they pry it from my cold, dead, hands.