Proof buying weed supports terrorism

[Moonbeam]

I agree with moonbeam.
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Hehe, that's nice to see. Caddy can be such a block of granite that sometimes momentarily, I actually ask myself if maybe it's me that's nuts. And let me tell ya, it takes a stupendous piece of granite to do that.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I agree with moonbeam.
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Hehe, that's nice to see. Caddy can be such a block of granite that sometimes momentarily, I actually ask myself if maybe it's me that's nuts. And let me tell ya, it takes a stupendous piece of granite to do that.

 

[Zebo]

There was a conserted effort to *get* Clinton...It's her fault for calling it a conspiracy which tunes about 90% of the population off in a sound bite.

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Do you think if Clintons office revealed the name of a CIA agent like Bushs there wound'nt be hell to pay and thousands of investigations launched and it would be all over the press?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: jjsole
I agree with moonbeam.

To question is a duty. To question isn't to criticize, as this insecure administration would conclude, but to seek answers in order to make an informed opinion, whether or not that ultimately leads one to either criticism or support.

You can play the "criticize" vs "question" game all you want but the positions don't change. There has been a push by those on the left to redefine patriotism as criticizing the govt. One doesn't have to criticize or question the gov't to be a patriot. It sounds good and all nice and fuzzy but it just isn't so.
I don't care that the left is throwing things out and trying to make them stick - they can do what they want. But this notion that it somehow makes one patriotic is bunk.

Moonie - yes, I am rock solid and I too question at times if you are nuts I'm sorry you don't feel it necessary to hold firm to values and principles that define who one is.

Questioning/criticism is a RIGHT - not a duty.

But anyway this thread was about a bunch of turrists with sum drugs

CkG

 

[Gaard]

Yes, to criticise the government is a right and not a duty. Just be careful, there is a fine line between harsh criticism and wanting the US to fail. Right CAD?

 

[OrganizedChaos]

http://tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a115

 

[Moonbeam]

Questioning/criticism is a RIGHT - not a duty.
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No Caddy, it is the duty of patriotic citizens to question and criticize their government. With rights come responsibilities. He who can't find anything to criticize is brain dead. A muscle exercised soon atrophies. A sleeping populace soon looses its rights. That why criticism is a duty. I do my duty and you don't because I'm a patriot. It's real simple, or should be, even for a granite block. And don't forget that I said it, not Mrs Clinton. I had no idea she did. And also, when it comes to holding to values and principles, you should see by now that I can. I've held to the value that criticism is a patriots duty regardless of what ever you've said. I can not only hold them right up there equal to you, but I can hold ones that actually are true. That makes me, in the long run, impossible to beat. So don't be silly now and say that criticism is a right, and put the people to sleep. It's much more than a right, it's the responsibility of every real patriot. Get on board the real team.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
You can play the "criticize" vs "question" game all you want but the positions don't change. There has been a push by those on the left to redefine patriotism as criticizing the govt. One doesn't have to criticize or question the gov't to be a patriot. It sounds good and all nice and fuzzy but it just isn't so.

I don't care that the left is throwing things out and trying to make them stick - they can do what they want. But this notion that it somehow makes one patriotic is bunk.

What?!? You must be off your Oxycontin again Cad. The left hasn't "pushed to redefine patriotism as criticizing the govt," rather it's the right who has pushed the concept that questioning the govt means you're not a patriot. How do you think the Patriot Act and War in Iraq were passed by Congress? Those jackasses in the house and senate were afraid to think twice about anything coming out of Bush's mouth for the sakes of their political careers. Listen to the words coming out of Hannity, Coulter and Limbaugh. Apparantly, anyone who second guesses the president is a freaking traitor.

 

[kage69]

Moon, apparently you can't read - I never said you're deep. Sorry. If I'm up to my ankles in anything, it's the excrement that continually seeps from your mouth (ok, keyboard, whatever).

C'mon, you can do better.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

DM - Yes, there seems to have been a push by the left. They(the left) seem to think that their non-support of the War in Iraq(after they gave permission) means that they aren't patriotic or that people might try to call them "unpatriotic", especially since they supported Afghanistan. I think this was a case of them taking themselves too seriously. I don't think they were "unpatriotic" - I just think their actions were typical and political...it's just that they realized people will call them on that and decided to take any thing said about it - in the wrong way. If they think they need to defend themselves against some perceived label of being unpatriotic - that's fine, but for them to counter with an attempt to say that criticism or "questioning" is somehow a "duty" to be patriotic is laughable. Now some have it right so far as their wording - by saying it is their "right" to criticize", but it seems their context is alway "patriotism" and about being patriotic. They keep bringing this "patriotism" issue upon themselves.

Gaard - Yes - there is a fine line.

And finally to moonie - yes, you are wind, and I am rock - eventually you'll make your mark on me. blah blah blah... I've heard it all before. The problem is the wind is everchanging and not reliable Also, if there are enough rocks - the wind will not pass through. The wind can be bitter or sweet, yet the rock is steady.
Yes there are responsibilities that come with freedom. And no - the government doesn't "grant" rights - it just protects them from being taken away. The rights are there by default. Duties are "requirements", so you think that someone who doesn't criticize(or question) the gov't can't be patriotic? Is patriotism only something that deals with governments? Are soldiers not patriots? Do they all criticize(question) their gov't? Or is it that they defend this country? Are they not inspired by their love of this country? Are they not faithful and loyal? How does patriotism require criticism or questioning? Remember - I'm not saying that people who do question or criticize the gov't aren't patriotic - I'm just saying it isn't a requirement(duty). Now should we judicious when it comes to electing our representative? Hell yes. Should we examine and critique their performance? Hell yes. But those things don't have to be in the definition of patriotism.

Now again back to the thread topic.
OrganizedChaos- ROFLMAO!
"No shots were fired during the interception mission,"

CkG

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
DM - Yes, there seems to have been a push by the left. They(the left) seem to think that their non-support of the War in Iraq(after they gave permission) means that they aren't patriotic or that people might try to call them "unpatriotic", especially since they supported Afghanistan.

Ummm, what? The left is now attacking itself? Anyway ...

"No shots were fired during the interception mission..."

No shots were fired, but many pipes were lit!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
DM - Yes, there seems to have been a push by the left. They(the left) seem to think that their non-support of the War in Iraq(after they gave permission) means that they aren't patriotic or that people might try to call them "unpatriotic", especially since they supported Afghanistan.

Ummm, what? The left is now attacking itself? Anyway ...

"No shots were fired during the interception mission..."

No shots were fired, but many pipes were lit!

Notice - I said it was a self perceived issue

But yes - smoke em if you got em

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: kage69
Moon, apparently you can't read - I never said you're deep. Sorry. If I'm up to my ankles in anything, it's the excrement that continually seeps from your mouth (ok, keyboard, whatever).

C'mon, you can do better.

Hehe, my dear kage, it's you that don't know how to read. When you think others are trying to impress it means one of three things. It means that you have the urge to impress and are projecting it on to me or it means that you are impressed and don't what to notice that's just jealousy. There is also of course the possibility that I am actually impressive. But at any rate you don't want to fall into a pattern that looks like you seem to judge others from a kindergarten level. It's a jeweler who knows a real gem, no?

 

[LunarRay]

If it is true that the government derives its power from the governed, it only seems reasonable for the governed to exercise prudence in the granting of said power. Part of the granting process, it seems to me, is the oversight, the questioning, the gaining of confirmation that the granted power is used in the manner the governed approve. To the extent we are somewhat of different minds we will find our selves critical or defenders of the executors actions. We are possessed of not only the Right, given we are the grantor's but, also the Duty as prudent citizens. To do less is to abrogate our responsibility to insure that the use of granted power is judiciously used. The vote is the means to effect the right. The protest is a means to effect the Duty. The absence of Protest indicates agreement while the invocation (legal definition) of protest assures the minority grantor's voice is heard.
Sheep don't vote and neither do they protest as they're lead off the cliff's edge until looking up they bleat utter surprise at the gravity of their short comings.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Sheep don't vote and neither do they protest as they're lead off the cliff's edge until looking up they bleat utter surprise at the gravity of their short comings.

Nice one, LR. Very poetic.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Sheep don't vote and neither do they protest as they're lead off the cliff's edge until looking up they bleat utter surprise at the gravity of their short comings.

Nice one, LR. Very poetic.

Yup, that one was really sweet, I bet a gosh darned gem. I say 'I bet' cause I learned earlier tonight from LR I can only judge as far as I can see (and only the good Lord knows how far that may be.) I stuck it in my sig.

 

[IGBT]

For all you mutton heads that need to get high...

 

[Bitdog]

In our previous Amerian history, buying alcohol supported terrorists,
but back then, they were called gangsters. The result was social
violence, corruption, lost rights, large amounts of money going to the bad guys,
just like what is going on with our current 80+ year old failed drug war.
The government called prohibition of alcohol, "America's great experiment"
which proved that when something the people are going to do anyway is made illegal
the government looses control of it. Much like the drug war's "controlled substances".
The governments cure to stopping the money going to the gangsters/terrorists was repealing the law.
With the stroke of a pen all the criminals were put out of buisness at once. Their funding was gone.
Which is what could be done now with the drug war. So I laugh when Bush and his ad coucil state
that we shouldn't buy drugs because it supports terrorists around the world. Hell he's giveing them the job.
The idiot should have another drink.
But like Nixon in Nam, he'll figgure that he just needs to throw more money at it to win. hahahaha
Hay hay LBJ, how many kids did you kill today.
Our drug war laws kill 10 people in Colombia per day & most are civilians.
When Prez Bush was asked to comment on his brothers daughters drug abuse,
he said that she needed help, but our children get zero tollerance long jail sentences in crime school (jail).
Americas debt appears to have been seriously increased by the drug war advocates Regan, Bush 1, & Bush 2.
Polititions have already spent our retirement fund $ & put our children in debt before they get a job.

4 more years !
+ WW3
financial devestation
the church in the White House.
It's your vote, spend it wisely.

Do I have the right to harm my self ?
Who owns me, me or the government ?
In a government "by and for the people" the people own the government.

Reality is not faith based.
When religions have armys, they kill each other.
Freedom of religion to me means that I have the right to be free of religion.

A con man wants to be an insurance sales man that gets 10% of your wages for life,
and there is no way to ever collect on the policy because he's selling life after death.
You'ld have to be dead to collect. You arn't stupid enough to fall for that are you ?

The last person on earth you should ever lie to is you.

The hardest thing to understand is that you don't have to understand
to the point you make up things that suit your purposes.

Lying to me for my own good is not for my on good, it's for yours.

Those who have zero tollerance for others should stay out of public service.

ETC.

 

[kage69]

Hehe, my dear kage, it's you that don't know how to read. When you think others are trying to impress it means one of three things. It means that you have the urge to impress and are projecting it on to me or it means that you are impressed and don't what to notice that's just jealousy. There is also of course the possibility that I am actually impressive. But at any rate you don't want to fall into a pattern that looks like you seem to judge others from a kindergarten level. It's a jeweler who knows a real gem, no?

More innane pop psychology from our resident thoughtful troll. Your blabbering isn't even remotely impressive (it can at times be hilarious though!), so there goes your 'reasoning.'
Jealousy? Yeah, I'm jealous in the same way I'd be jealous of someone with a hair lip. OOoooooo, bang on man, like I said, nothing escapes you...

Again, you can do better...

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: kage69

Hehe, my dear kage, it's you that don't know how to read. When you think others are trying to impress it means one of three things. It means that you have the urge to impress and are projecting it on to me or it means that you are impressed and don't what to notice that's just jealousy. There is also of course the possibility that I am actually impressive. But at any rate you don't want to fall into a pattern that looks like you seem to judge others from a kindergarten level. It's a jeweler who knows a real gem, no?

More innane pop psychology from our resident thoughtful troll. Your blabbering isn't even remotely impressive (it can at times be hilarious though!), so there goes your 'reasoning.'
Jealousy? Yeah, I'm jealous in the same way I'd be jealous of someone with a hair lip. OOoooooo, bang on man, like I said, nothing escapes you...

Again, you can do better...

From afar, Kage69, one may opine that a Mason jar filled with air contains nothing, zilch. One may chortle and chuckle while looking at the very thing one demands is absent. When actually shown the jar's contents one proclaims haughtily that it is nothing but Hot Air. What I suppose amazes me most is the process of denial and deflection. First one denies a point exists (the air) then exclaims that while it may exist it is irrelevant or not pertaining to the debate (the hot air). All the while proudly pronouncing ones own hot air is the Black Hole of sentient thought. Where the masses gather to be inculcated and edified. Simply amazing!
I guess the golden egg is the one that is never seen and, therefore, never consumed. There is so much more to be seen under the ocean's surface. To assume the reflection is the totality to be observed does not lessen the oceans gifts but, rather, lessens the observer's insight!

edit to add a question: Have you ever been to the sea shore?

 

[Moonbeam]

Hehe, LR:

Mulla Nasrudin once rode into town facing backwards on a donkey. The towns people laughed and said, why are you riding backwards? The Mulla replied, "Did it not occur to any of you that it's the donkey that's the other way round?"

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Hehe, LR:

Mulla Nasrudin once rode into town facing backwards on a donkey. The towns people laughed and said, why are you riding backwards? The Mulla replied, "Did it not occur to any of you that it's the donkey that's the other way round?"

Hehehehe... when the Mulla Ray was asked that question He said.. "I know where I'm going ... it's where I've been that interests me"

 

[jpeyton]

Well apparently buying cocaine doesn't support terrorism, because under Taliban rule opium crops in Afghanistan were nearly stamped out, but now opium production is up some ridiculous percentage (upwards of 800%).

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Well apparently buying cocaine doesn't support terrorism, because under Taliban rule opium crops in Afghanistan were nearly stamped out, but now opium production is up some ridiculous percentage (upwards of 800%).

Well, apparently you don't know where cocaine comes from.

You've posted this same thing before(IIRC) and I chalked it up to mistyping, but this time I'll call you on it. Coca plants are where cocaine comes from, Opium comes from poppies which is used to make heroin.

CkG

 

[sandorski]

Hmm:

Heroin or Heroine? + Afghanistan with poor Womens Rights under Taliban = Bush confused and thinks Heroin is a good thing?