Something tells me you're not taking into account much of what I am, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. [We all seek to be understood. It will help in your endeavor in this direction to extend what you seek for yourself to others] I know I'm not the only one here who takes exception to moon popping into a thread [Ah the strength in numbers defense as if numbers in other directions don't exist or numbers really much matter] with pithy yet condescending [have a care that what you call condesending isn't just some defensiveness springing from some unseen feeling of inferiority of your own and not intended by me] metaphors and comparisons (which may or may not work) where inevitably [hehe, careful with that tar brush] others are portrayed as simpletons who form their opinions out of ignorance (although, in his defense, there are a lot of trolls here deserving of that). [but I kage, am not one of them naturally, but like Moonbeam know who they are] Indeed, often it seems it is moon that isn't, as you say, debating on the merit of the contextual thesis proffered. [see below] I'm a believer in the phrase, "When in Rome..." [I'm a believer there's one truth and it covers Rome and everywhere else too] I don't really see too many others here mixing the P&N medium with a course in philosophy or epistomology. [Sad huh] Whatever. I'm tired of this now. Damn these eyes of mine, I need advil. *shakes head*[hehe, sorry]
Hear hear, but what pray tell would that entail? I'm all for kickin Bush out of the White House, but wouldn't change on this magnitude require something more....profound? [Hey, now you know why I'm here] On the financial [LunarRay has much to say here] and moral fronts, [I like to throw in a bit of this and some epistomology to keep the mason jar full] I'd consider the moral arena more daunting. Big business and the fiscal management of the government seem to be things far more maleable then say, effecting change on how Americans view religion's role in foreign policy.[Because the problems are daunting and solutions require flexibility, I hope you will allow me to pop in occassionally with my take on where and what kinds of vision will be required before any real solutions are found. The way I see it it is unexamined assumptions that run us aground and it's those I try to shake. I hope to get you to see that they can't be easily shaken because they are unexamined amd unexamined in turn because we feel them to be necessary to our survival. They are a part of our core conformistic programming. Sorry if exposure to such thoughts makes you feel like a stupid sheep, but we all feel that way already. I just wake it up. ]