Jschmuck2
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Originally posted by: zoiks
I voted for it.
Why? Also: Who should we not allow to marry next? Muslims or Jews?
Originally posted by: zoiks
I voted for it.
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: tenthumbs
I wonder what Prop 8 will be called next time? There's bound to be another, and another and another until it passes.
Ummm it looks like it is going to pass, and there isnt a thing the courts can do about it.
You should be asking what will the Repeal of Prop 8 be called.
Originally posted by: MH2007
Wow, I voted no and thought this didn't have a chance to pass (based on polls that I had glanced over while doing my research).
Boy was I wrong. I wonder how many of our fellow Obama voters didn't bother voting on this?
Originally posted by: Genx87
We allow govt to endorse and recognize marriage in a legal sense and wonder why it prohibits people from partaking in a religious ceremony. Another example of failed logic. Give govt the power then complain what it does with that power.
Originally posted by: sactoking
Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Hopefully, if it does pass, there will be another court challenge against.
People need to realize that because something that is wrong and they want it; does not confir the status on it of it being right.
I don't see where it can go in court. Prior challenges were upheld on the grounds that the CA Constitution outlawed bans. Now the CA Constitution no longer outlaws bans. On what grounds can a judge overturn a Constitutional Amendment? It can't be unconstitutional, and there is no higher power under the law. The Fed Gov't has no jurisdiction, and the Supreme Court wouldn't touch it.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: MH2007
Wow, I voted no and thought this didn't have a chance to pass (based on polls that I had glanced over while doing my research).
Boy was I wrong. I wonder how many of our fellow Obama voters didn't bother voting on this?
it's a little bit of a mixed bag for me.
all I'm reading about in the news today has been about how this election proves that in america, anyone can do anything... unless you're gay, in which case no marriage/adoption for you.
(11-05) 10:08 PST SACRAMENTO -- After a heated, divisive campaign, fueled by a record $73 million of spending, California voters backed Proposition 8, which would change the state Constitution to ban same-sex marriage.
With 96 percent of the vote counted, the measure was winning by a decisive 400,000-vote margin, 52.2 percent to 47.8 percent. It had piled up huge margins in the Central Valley, but lost in every Bay Area county but Solano.
Isn't that interesting. Even Nobama and his sidekick Joe the Senator are against same-sex marriage.That pitch also was a big help for the Democratic presidential ticket. Both Barack Obama and Joe Biden could give 100 percent support to the campaign's efforts to preserve rights, even though neither of them supports same-sex marriage.
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: zoiks
I voted for it.
Why? Also: Who should we not allow to marry next? Muslims or Jews?
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
On another note, what's going to happen to my gay friends who are married?
Originally posted by: Atomic Rooster
Same-sex marriage ban wins
(11-05) 10:08 PST SACRAMENTO -- After a heated, divisive campaign, fueled by a record $73 million of spending, California voters backed Proposition 8, which would change the state Constitution to ban same-sex marriage.
With 96 percent of the vote counted, the measure was winning by a decisive 400,000-vote margin, 52.2 percent to 47.8 percent. It had piled up huge margins in the Central Valley, but lost in every Bay Area county but Solano.
Isn't that interesting. Even Nobama and his sidekick Joe the Senator are against same-sex marriage.That pitch also was a big help for the Democratic presidential ticket. Both Barack Obama and Joe Biden could give 100 percent support to the campaign's efforts to preserve rights, even though neither of them supports same-sex marriage.
Originally posted by: Atomic Rooster
Same-sex marriage ban wins
(11-05) 10:08 PST SACRAMENTO -- After a heated, divisive campaign, fueled by a record $73 million of spending, California voters backed Proposition 8, which would change the state Constitution to ban same-sex marriage.
With 96 percent of the vote counted, the measure was winning by a decisive 400,000-vote margin, 52.2 percent to 47.8 percent. It had piled up huge margins in the Central Valley, but lost in every Bay Area county but Solano.
Isn't that interesting. Even Nobama and his sidekick Joe the Senator are against same-sex marriage.That pitch also was a big help for the Democratic presidential ticket. Both Barack Obama and Joe Biden could give 100 percent support to the campaign's efforts to preserve rights, even though neither of them supports same-sex marriage.
Obama stated he is also against amendments to the constitution to prohibit same sex marriage.Originally posted by: Atomic Rooster
Same-sex marriage ban wins
(11-05) 10:08 PST SACRAMENTO -- After a heated, divisive campaign, fueled by a record $73 million of spending, California voters backed Proposition 8, which would change the state Constitution to ban same-sex marriage.
With 96 percent of the vote counted, the measure was winning by a decisive 400,000-vote margin, 52.2 percent to 47.8 percent. It had piled up huge margins in the Central Valley, but lost in every Bay Area county but Solano.
Isn't that interesting. Even Nobama and his sidekick Joe the Senator are against same-sex marriage.That pitch also was a big help for the Democratic presidential ticket. Both Barack Obama and Joe Biden could give 100 percent support to the campaign's efforts to preserve rights, even though neither of them supports same-sex marriage.
Originally posted by: Atomic Rooster
Isn't that interesting. Even Nobama and his sidekick Joe the Senator are against same-sex marriage.That pitch also was a big help for the Democratic presidential ticket. Both Barack Obama and Joe Biden could give 100 percent support to the campaign's efforts to preserve rights, even though neither of them supports same-sex marriage.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: zoiks
I voted for it.
Why? Also: Who should we not allow to marry next? Muslims or Jews?
the thing is, it isn't equivalent to race. homosexuality is a defect. a relatively benign one at that. unlike say pedophilia no one is getting raped. that being said, that doesn't make it the equivalent of skin color or race. never mind ideology
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Genx87
We allow govt to endorse and recognize marriage in a legal sense and wonder why it prohibits people from partaking in a religious ceremony. Another example of failed logic. Give govt the power then complain what it does with that power.
Bingo.
Marriage = Church.
And people want to give the government more and more power.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Genx87
We allow govt to endorse and recognize marriage in a legal sense and wonder why it prohibits people from partaking in a religious ceremony. Another example of failed logic. Give govt the power then complain what it does with that power.
Bingo.
Marriage = Church.
And people want to give the government more and more power.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: zoiks
I voted for it.
Why? Also: Who should we not allow to marry next? Muslims or Jews?
the thing is, it isn't equivalent to race. homosexuality is a defect. a relatively benign one at that. unlike say pedophilia no one is getting raped. that being said, that doesn't make it the equivalent of skin color or race. never mind ideology
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: zoiks
I voted for it.
Why? Also: Who should we not allow to marry next? Muslims or Jews?
the thing is, it isn't equivalent to race. homosexuality is a defect. a relatively benign one at that. unlike say pedophilia no one is getting raped. that being said, that doesn't make it the equivalent of skin color or race. never mind ideology
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: zoiks
I voted for it.
Why? Also: Who should we not allow to marry next? Muslims or Jews?
the thing is, it isn't equivalent to race. homosexuality is a defect. a relatively benign one at that. unlike say pedophilia no one is getting raped. that being said, that doesn't make it the equivalent of skin color or race. never mind ideology
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: zoiks
I voted for it.
Why? Also: Who should we not allow to marry next? Muslims or Jews?
the thing is, it isn't equivalent to race. homosexuality is a defect. a relatively benign one at that. unlike say pedophilia no one is getting raped. that being said, that doesn't make it the equivalent of skin color or race. never mind ideology
I think it's clear to most people here who is defective.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Marriage = Church.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the thing is, it isn't equivalent to race. homosexuality is a defect.