Prophet 2 MX poor performance.. =(

Cranky

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Dec 5, 1999
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Hey all, I just went out and purchased a Hercules Prophet 2 MX card.. to replace my Diamond V770 Ultra card.. To my surprise the new MX card is maybe half the speed as the old TNT2 card. The 3d Mark 2000 score on my old TNT2 was 2331, the score on my new MX card is 1286. I have a athlon 600 overclocked to 823, on a Asus k7m mobo with the lastest bios, running windows 98SE. I have tried both the drivers that come with the board, and the detonator 6.18 with no difference. I used PCIlist to gather some info, everything seems ok to me. Im also using the latest VIA agp driver that just came out. I also followed some tips on setting up my bios, everything seems ok. If anyone has any ideas, or shares the same problem, let me know!

Chris

Hey all, did a little looking into PCIlist, and got this extended info, it says that AGP traffic is currently disabled, yet direct x dialogue says it is enabled? PCIlist says the master and targets differ?

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AGP transfers
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The AGP aperture is currently set to 64MB.

The system board supports up to 2X AGP transfers. The graphics card supports up to 4X AGP transfers.

AGP transfers are NOT configured correctly - master and target differs.


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Sideband addressing
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The system board supports sideband addressing. The graphics card does NOT support sideband addressing.

Sideband addressing is NOT currently enabled.


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Fast writes
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The graphics card supports fast writes.

Fast writes are NOT currently enabled.


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AGP revision
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The graphics card is an AGP 2.0-compliant device, and may not work correctly under Windows 95 or with first-generation AGP system boards. Ensure you have the very latest GART manager (AGP driver) installed.


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PCI bus hogging
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The graphics card may be hogging the bus, which could cause problems for other devices like PCI sound cards.


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Related issues
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PCIList only queries the system configuration registers. In the event of problems, other things to check to ensure AGP support is enabled and working properly include the following:

- make sure the correct and latest GART manager (AGP driver) for your system board is installed, as well as the latest drivers for your graphics card and DirectX version

- in your system BIOS Setup program, the AGP aperture should be enabled and set to at least 64MB; an IRQ should be assigned to the VGA card; any option referring to spread spectrum should be disabled; and video BIOS and RAM shadowing should be disabled

- if the system has been overclocked to reach 759 MHz, the AGP clock may now be too high; system memory which otherwise works without errors may be unable to cope with the heavier demands of AGP traffic when running 3D applications

- some AGP features may actually be available in hardware, but be disabled in specific BIOS and/or driver releases, or even by user-configurable software switches (e.g., in the Windows registry)


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Device enumeration
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AMD CPU bridge (70061022h)
AMD PCI bridge (70071022h)
VIA ISA bridge (06861106h)
VIA IDE controller (05711106h)
VIA USB (30381106h) - IRQ10
VIA SMBus (30571106h) - disabled
3Com Ethernet controller (900010B7h) - IRQ12
Creative Labs audio device (00021102h) - IRQ10
Creative Labs input controller (70021102h)
Nvidia VGA controller (011010DEh) - IRQ11


CPU speed - 758 MHz
DirectX - initialized
AGP revision - 2.00
VGA IRQ - IRQ11, not shared
AGP aperture - 64MB
System board AGP transfer support - 1x, 2x
Graphics card AGP transfer support - 1x, 2x, 4x
AGP traffic currently enabled - n/a
System board SBA - supported
Graphics card SBA - n/a
AGP sideband currently enabled - no
Pipelined transactions - n/a
Fast write protocol - supported, currently n/a

Devices:
AMD CPU bridge (70061022h)
AMD PCI bridge (70071022h)
VIA ISA bridge (06861106h)
VIA IDE controller (05711106h)
VIA USB (30381106h) - IRQ10
VIA SMBus (30571106h) - disabled
3Com Ethernet controller (900010B7h) - IRQ12
Creative Labs audio device (00021102h) - IRQ10
Creative Labs input controller (70021102h)
Nvidia VGA controller (011010DEh) - IRQ11
 

Cranky

Junior Member
Dec 5, 1999
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Hey guys..thanks for replying... appreciate the help.. still no luck yet. I tried everything in the first post, and I have installed the VIA AGP miniport driver in turbo right? Im beginning to wonder if Geforce cards even work with the old K7M?

Chris
 

Puffen

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Jan 4, 2000
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I have the same problem with my K7M and Asus V7100 MX!!
Kinda' annoying!!

I do however get good scores in 3dmark2k but it won't run in AGP2x and sidebanding!
 

ibbilbo

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Oct 9, 1999
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Hey Cranky,
I just did the same video card upgrade exactly and have been fighting a similar battle for the last three days.
I have a P-III 600e@800 on an Abit VT6X4 (Via chipset). It's been giving me fits since I installed the MX. The VT6X4 doesn't officially support AGP4X either. I just figured out that all the grief I been through was self induced. I have been using the AGP4X reg patch, trying to make the MX run at 4X. I removed the key in regedit and all the problems (crashes, slow performance, visual anomilies, freezes) went away.
Any chance you are using the reg patch as well?
 
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