Proposed Texas textbooks are inaccurate, biased and politicized, new report finds

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88keys

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The article the OP based this post on is a blog article by a leftist known for her extreme left views when it comes to education. It is not surprising in the least that she would write an article opposing the proposed content of textbooks that contain anything other than her views. Textbooks that contain anything other than leftist ideology, and in Texas? Need anything more be said?

The progz learned a long, long time ago that education is a key component of their agenda. They have been very successful in their quest to control the education of the children of this country. Their biggest success to date is the guy residing in the White House. He, is of course a failure but getting him there is the success, just to be clear.

Progz have been tinkering with our schools for 100 years. Tinkering with what has been taught and how it has been taught. What is the state of our educational system compared to other nations? When will it be the right time to reform our educational system to prepare our citizens to compete in the world? No better time than now. How do we get the progressives out of education and what do we do with them? That's the problem.
The problem we have is staunch idealism and when people are confronted with a reality that is at odds with their personal opinions, they change the facts instead of changing their mind.
 

CitizenKain

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The progz learned a long, long time ago that education is a key component of their agenda. They have been very successful in their quest to control the education of the children of this country. Their biggest success to date is the guy residing in the White House. He, is of course a failure but getting him there is the success, just to be clear.

Meanwhile conservatives have learned a long time ago that not educating children leads to more conservatives. Well, they didn't learn it, they had to have it told to them since critical thinking is difficult for rightwingers.
 

Wreckem

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The article the OP based this post on is a blog article by a leftist known for her extreme left views when it comes to education. It is not surprising in the least that she would write an article opposing the proposed content of textbooks that contain anything other than her views. Textbooks that contain anything other than leftist ideology, and in Texas? Need anything more be said?

The progz learned a long, long time ago that education is a key component of their agenda. They have been very successful in their quest to control the education of the children of this country. Their biggest success to date is the guy residing in the White House. He, is of course a failure but getting him there is the success, just to be clear.

Progz have been tinkering with our schools for 100 years. Tinkering with what has been taught and how it has been taught. What is the state of our educational system compared to other nations? When will it be the right time to reform our educational system to prepare our citizens to compete in the world? No better time than now. How do we get the progressives out of education and what do we do with them? That's the problem.

Last I checked, conservatives have been doing just as much tinkering with the education system.

Both sides have their educational consultant lobbyist shilling terrible ideas.
 

Wreckem

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Also about religion.

World History in Texas is supposed to cover all over the major and most of the minor religions of the world. They do a poor job of covering all religions, especially the minority ones.

US History in Texas never really had much a religious component until Republicans took over the SBOE. Republicans have been in charge of the Texas education for almost two decades now.

On a side note, I am not sure why publishers still cater to Texas. Most Texas districts cannot afford new books. Almost all skipped the last revision and most are using books over a decade old and have no intention of investing in new books. Heck lot of classes do not even use textbooks(physical or e) these days, since teaching out of a textbooks is a cardinal sin of teaching these days.
 
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HomerJS

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Ben Franklins and Thomas Jefferson's opinions on organized religion/Christianity

"I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity."--- Benjamin Franklin

"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot ... they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer engine for their purpose." --- Thomas Jefferson, to Horatio Spafford, March 17, 1814

"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." --- Thomas Jefferson, from "Notes on Virginia"

"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." --- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, Aug. 10, 1787
 

zinfamous

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I could have sworn the majority of the Founding Fathers were deists. Which are not atheists, but certainly were not Christian at all either.

In fact, none of the Founding Fathers or major political leaders in that past time frame were atheist at all. Doesn't mean they were all Christian either at all. Most were not Christian. Still, to have a history book which states the United States was founded on religious ideals is completely false. It was founded on the ideas of equality (as best as could be done although slaves were still allowed at the time), freedom, self governance, and limiting government rule over the people.

Out of all the political leaders since that time, almost none of them were close to atheists with the exception of Abe Lincoln. But again, they were not all Christian, especially in the earlier part of our history. Although most since that early period have been Christian in nature.

Nearly all of them were Unitarian Universalists; the others didn't commonly speak about religion.

The Unitarians of the time were something like a club that discussed spiritual things, much of which was philosophy more than it was the absurd idea that all of them existed because some gawd wanted them to exist.

They certainly understood religion, and appreciated it, but there wasn't much inclination towards abject truth in something like the Bible.
 

senseamp

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NEW INCIDENT!

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/24/u...otest-to-an-anti-protest-curriculum.html?_r=0



Colorado school doesnt want to teach about civil disobedience.

The teachers’ union, whose members forced two high schools to close Friday by calling in sick, has been in continual conflict with the new board; the board, in turn, has drawn praise from Americans for Prosperity-Colorado, a conservative group affiliated with the Koch family foundations. In April, Dustin Zvonek, the group’s director, wrote in an op-ed that the board’s election was an “exciting and hopeful moment for the county and the school district.”
Kochs are supporting anti-protest "respect for authority" statist curriculum? I guess they see where the populist wind is blowing.
 

Pray To Jesus

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The article the OP based this post on is a blog article by a leftist known for her extreme left views when it comes to education. It is not surprising in the least that she would write an article opposing the proposed content of textbooks that contain anything other than her views. Textbooks that contain anything other than leftist ideology, and in Texas? Need anything more be said?

The progz learned a long, long time ago that education is a key component of their agenda. They have been very successful in their quest to control the education of the children of this country. Their biggest success to date is the guy residing in the White House. He, is of course a failure but getting him there is the success, just to be clear.

Progz have been tinkering with our schools for 100 years. Tinkering with what has been taught and how it has been taught. What is the state of our educational system compared to other nations? When will it be the right time to reform our educational system to prepare our citizens to compete in the world? No better time than now. How do we get the progressives out of education and what do we do with them? That's the problem.

Liberals are liars and hate to see truth taught.
 

Pray To Jesus

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"Two government textbooks include misleading information that undermines the Constitutional concept of the separation of church and state."

There is no Constitutional concept of the separation of church and state.

That lie was a recent invention of Liberal judges.
 
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schmuckley

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Oh and you forgot the school kids that sang this?

Our country’s stood beside us
People have sent us aid.
Katrina could not stop us, our hopes will never fade.
Congress, Bush and FEMA
People across our land
Together have come to rebuild us and we join them hand-in-hand!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/flashback-students-sang-b_n_300372.html

And fyi Ben franklin was a 'clockwork deist'

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"Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy." -Ben Franklin



"Here is my Creed," Franklin wrote to Stiles. "I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we render to him, is doing Good to his other Children. That the Soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its Conduct in this ... As for Jesus of Nazareth ... I think the system of Morals and Religion as he left them to us, the best the World ever saw" -Ben Franklin
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/porta...in_franklin_and_his_religious_beliefs/1014592

"In this situation of this Assembly, groping as it were in the dark to find political truth, and scarce able to distinguish it when presented to us, how has it happened, Sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights to illuminate our understandings? In the beginning of the Contest with G. Britain, when we were sensible of danger we had daily prayer in this room for the divine protection.- Our prayers, Sir, were heard, & they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending providence in our favor."

"To that kind providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? or do we imagine that we no longer need his assistance? I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth- that God Governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings, that "except the Lord build the House they labour in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better, than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments by Human wisdom and leave it to chance, war and conquest.I therefore beg leave to move-that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the Clergy of this City be requested to officiate in that Service-" -Ben Franklin

Oh,oh,What's that? Ben Franklin calling for prayers every morning at the Constitutional convention.That's what it is.
So as for that "Separation of Church and State" stuff..a lot of people are doing it wrong.What they meant was to keep government out of the church.Also that church officials would wield no direct power in government because of their position; a-la Anglican church.
 
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SlickSnake

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I still don't understand why the fundies in Texas even pretend to need a textbook at all. Since it's a whole lot easier to just pass out a King James Bible to every student when school starts, just because the fundies say so.

The differences between a Christian fundie and a Islamic fundie are pretty insignificant when it comes to repackaging and regurgitating religious dogma in a school textbook and passing that off as facts, instead of teaching actual history and science.

One of the major problems in Islamic countries that is never addressed at all, is the fact that the schools are all Islamic, and all they teach is the Koran and associated Islamic studies. Nothing else is usually allowed, and of course, nothing that might enlighten or educate anyone to any other religion or political viewpoints from even a historical perspective. They fair a bit better in teaching some of the sciences, but still have an severe ideological bent that makes actual inquisitive learning nearly impossible. Students are trained and conditioned to be brainwashed religious zombies who never question their religious ideology at all, because they give them no alternative basis to even question it with.

Which is exactly the religious ideological black hole the Texas textbooks are aiming for. And with each new version of a textbook that comes out, the religious dogma gets increased, and more facts, history and science that conflict with baby Jesus brainwashing get tossed out.

And scarier still, are the huge numbers of brainwashed, braindead religious zombies who simply can't think for themselves and see revisionist religious textbooks in public school as a completely acceptable practice that should be universally adopted by everyone else, regardless of their religious affiliations or objections to them.

If you want to go to Christian church in a public school, you are clearly in the wrong place for that, since there are plenty of other religious and secular students there who want nothing to do with Christian religious indoctrination. That's obviously why they have private religious schools that align themselves with whatever religion you want to follow.

It's high time other more educated states stop buying Texas brand of Bible bastardised textbooks already. But unfortunately, there are still plenty of good old boy southern states that just gobble this uneducated Bible thumper school textbook crap right up.
 
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Orignal Earl

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There is no Constitutional concept of the separation of church and state.

That lie was a recent invention of Liberal judges.

The best thing about your posts, is that while posters are worried about extremists thousands of miles away.
They can see there are like minded people right here posting
 
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"Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy." -Ben Franklin
"Here is my Creed," Franklin wrote to Stiles. "I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we render to him, is doing Good to his other Children. That the Soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its Conduct in this ... As for Jesus of Nazareth ... I think the system of Morals and Religion as he left them to us, the best the World ever saw" -Ben Franklin
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/porta...in_franklin_and_his_religious_beliefs/1014592

Did you truly think that people are too stupid to follow up and research your quotes? For example, this first quote, dishonest. From the same damn article, what Franklin went on to say:

"but I have ... some Doubts to his Divinity; though' it is a Question I do not dogmatism upon, having never studied it, and think it is needless to busy myself with it now, where I expect soon an Opportunity of knowing the Truth with less Trouble."

As the article quoted points out:

"The narrative was classic Franklin, witty and to the point. Religion was worthless unless it promoted virtuous behavior. Jesus was the greatest moral teacher who ever lived, but he was not God"



"In this situation of this Assembly, groping as it were in the dark to find political truth, and scarce able to distinguish it when presented to us, how has it happened, Sir, that we have not hitherto once thought of humbly applying to the Father of lights to illuminate our understandings? In the beginning of the Contest with G. Britain, when we were sensible of danger we had daily prayer in this room for the divine protection.- Our prayers, Sir, were heard, & they were graciously answered. All of us who were engaged in the struggle must have observed frequent instances of a superintending providence in our favor."

"To that kind providence we owe this happy opportunity of consulting in peace on the means of establishing our future national felicity. And have we now forgotten that powerful friend? or do we imagine that we no longer need his assistance? I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth- that God Governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the sacred writings, that "except the Lord build the House they labour in vain that build it." I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better, than the Builders of Babel: We shall be divided by our little partial local interests; our projects will be confounded, and we ourselves shall become a reproach and bye word down to future ages. And what is worse, mankind may hereafter from this unfortunate instance, despair of establishing Governments by Human wisdom and leave it to chance, war and conquest.I therefore beg leave to move-that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the Clergy of this City be requested to officiate in that Service-" -Ben Franklin

Oh,oh,What's that? Ben Franklin calling for prayers every morning at the Constitutional convention.That's what it is.
So as for that "Separation of Church and State" stuff..a lot of people are doing it wrong.What they meant was to keep government out of the church.Also that church officials would wield no direct power in government because of their position; a-la Anglican church.

As for your second assertion, it's known as the 'Franklin Prayer Myth'

http://candst.tripod.com/franklin.htm

http://vanguardchurch.blogspot.ca/2009/07/more-mythology-about-founding-fathers.html

http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=98

If you can't make an honest argument, why bother?
 

schmuckley

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Did you truly think that people are too stupid to follow up and research your quotes? For example, this first quote, dishonest. From the same damn article, what Franklin went on to say:

"but I have ... some Doubts to his Divinity; though' it is a Question I do not dogmatism upon, having never studied it, and think it is needless to busy myself with it now, where I expect soon an Opportunity of knowing the Truth with less Trouble."

As the article quoted points out:

"The narrative was classic Franklin, witty and to the point. Religion was worthless unless it promoted virtuous behavior. Jesus was the greatest moral teacher who ever lived, but he was not God"





As for your second assertion, it's known as the 'Franklin Prayer Myth'

http://candst.tripod.com/franklin.htm

http://vanguardchurch.blogspot.ca/2009/07/more-mythology-about-founding-fathers.html

http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=98

If you can't make an honest argument, why bother?

A little context snipping never hurt nobody, right?
It really doesn't change a thing.
Ben Franklin still believed in God.
 

SlickSnake

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The best thing about your posts, is that while posters are worried about extremists thousands of miles away.
They can see there are like minded people right here posting

Exactly. And the guilty parties are way too far gone to ever even begin to realize that fact.

Brainwashing using continous rote indoctrination (or any religious dogma, political ideology or even familial teachings) creates the same exact effects on the brain regardless of race, religion or political affiliation. Brainwashing afflicted brains literally shut down and shut off when responding to anything that remotely conflicts with their preprogramed reasoning abilities, making them irrational and utterly incapable of seeing anyone else's viewpoints what so ever.

And keep in mind, there are various degrees of brainwashing, too. And it seems the majority of the population worldwide is also under the effects of brainwashing to some extent. Independent thinking is largely shunned in favor of the hive mind brainwashing that never questions anything outside its ideology.

Which is why all religions (and even disparate political factions) ultimately either need to combine all their best attributes, or go away entirely. Otherwise, humanity is doomed to war and global failure and will never be saved by these global ideology brainwashing cults. Because those who are brainwashed and programmed can never come to terms or even learn to accept someone else's independent point of view over their own.
 
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A little context snipping never hurt nobody, right?
It really doesn't change a thing.
Ben Franklin still believed in God.

Cute but this still shows you to be a dishonest person. What will your God think of that? I expect he won't be happy.
 
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