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michal1980

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Bahaha. look at all the precious snowflakes, all need their little safe spaces. Liberals once again showing that they are exactly what they accuse republicans of being.

Up until election day the left was saying Trump wouldn't accept the election results, when reality is they wouldn't.
 

Double Trouble

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His message is on point. His message hits home to a lot of disaffected folks and that's what got him elected, much more so than his rather offensive personality and character.

That was one thing that struck me during the campaign. Hillary and her campaign did a very good job of using ads and Trump's own stupid words against him. Where I think they went wrong is to continue to hammer that same point into the ground, when many Trump supporters were were saying "yes, I already know the guy is an ass, talk to me about other things". The Hillary campaign successfully hammered home the fact that Trump is a dis-likable prick. But most Trump voters didn't vote for him because they like him or his character, they voted for him because his message on other topics -- jobs, economy, immigration, and so forth -- resonated with them, or because they simply didn't trust or like Hillary. IMO the Hillary campaign nailed their target, but the target (his character, demeanor) was the wrong one.
 
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michal1980

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The American Dream destroyed because Clinton lost a focking election? Good gawd, get a grip. America has been falling behind for quite a few years now. You didn't notice that manufacturing has left, that the middle class is shrinking, that two incomes are barely able to make ends meet, that health care has become prohibitively expensive, etc.... ?!
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If you are suggesting that it is wrong that the people are allowed to vote and elect a person you find repugnant, I don't know what to say other than welcome to democracy.
My facebook is full of precious snowflakes that are now 100% afraid that slavery will come back. They are working on creating McCarthy style lists of people that voted for trump so they don't have to work with them. And everyone that voted for trump is a fucking racist.
 

Double Trouble

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My facebook is full of precious snowflakes that are now 100% afraid that slavery will come back. They are working on creating McCarthy style lists of people that voted for trump so they don't have to work with them. And everyone that voted for trump is a fucking racist.

Same here, seeing a lot of that. A lot of bigotry by those who don't want Trump because he's a bigot. I guess this is what happens when you have a generation led to believe they should have the right to never have to hear opinions that are different than theirs. Now they need a "safe space" from reality.
 

dud

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Things don't go your way? Whine and bitch and protest and riot and loot.


You beat me to it. These people are in denial of reality. It didn't go they way they thought it should go and they want everyone to know that they do not accept the results. This is akin to throwing a tantrum. Yes, we have the right to protest but come on folks, get over it and move on. You will have other things in life to B&M and whine about.
 

FIVR

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Americans should not protest Trump, because he is president elect now. No whammies. Yes, he is a dangerously ignorant demagogue. Yes, he will make the country poorer. That's just part of the American process: First you have a good president who builds the country up and brings back the economy, then you elect a racist moron to tear it all down and create a recession. Remember Clinton and Bush? Wash, rinse, repeat.


Protesting is as un-american as democratic rule. It just doesn't happen here, and you should expect dog teeth and rubber bullets followed by long jail term without charges if you do protest. Just look at the native americans trying to protest some oil company building pipelines through their sacred land, as we speak the US gov is beating, gassing, and imprisoning the protesters and you hear jack about it in the mainstream news.
 

fskimospy

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You beat me to it. These people are in denial of reality. It didn't go they way they thought it should go and they want everyone to know that they do not accept the results. This is akin to throwing a tantrum. Yes, we have the right to protest but come on folks, get over it and move on. You will have other things in life to B&M and whine about.

So in other words 'you have a right to protest but you're terrible if you actually exercise that right'.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Lol. You are such a pathetic hypocrite. For trump the anger is misdirected and the left demonized but for Hillary, to you, anger about her is justified and entirely her fault.

I'm also questioning your claim that the unemployed are what helped him. By all accounts I've seen, the biggest change from previous elections was that trump had a larger gap in the white male vote. The last data I saw showed the average trump supporter with an income of 70k, that's hardly a stat for a voter looking for work. But by all means link it up.

Hillary simply didn't motivate people to come out and vote, neither did trump but he was at least able to get out the right people to come out and vote.
I believe you are from the west coast. I don't expect you to understand the frustrations of the white working class of the rust belt. Most coastal liberals don't. Hillary certainly didn't and it cost her the election.

Michael Moore saw this coming and gave ample warning.

I was never angry at Hillary. Never took to the streets in protest of Hillary. Never vandalized anything because of Hillary. I criticize her on an online forum. I like where Obama was leading the country. I didn't believe a neoliberal insider was the best candidate to carry forward his legacy. I was correct in that assertion.

And if I were facing a President Hillary, I would have shrugged my shoulders and moved on.
 

Starbuck1975

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That was one thing that struck me during the campaign. Hillary and her campaign did a very good job of using ads and Trump's own stupid words against him. Where I think they went wrong is to continue to hammer that same point into the ground, when many Trump supporters were were saying "yes, I already know the guy is an ass, talk to me about other things". The Hillary campaign successfully hammered home the fact that Trump is a dis-likable prick. But most Trump voters didn't vote for him because they like him or his character, they voted for him because his message on other topics -- jobs, economy, immigration, and so forth -- resonated with them, or because they simply didn't trust or like Hillary. IMO the Hillary campaign nailed their target, but the target (his character, demeanor) was the wrong one.
Can't question the character of your opponent when your character is under question as well.
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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My facebook is full of precious snowflakes that are now 100% afraid that slavery will come back. They are working on creating McCarthy style lists of people that voted for trump so they don't have to work with them. And everyone that voted for trump is a fucking racist.
The social media meltdown is nonstop entertainment
 

fskimospy

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Can't question the character of your opponent when your character is under question as well.

Sure you can, and she did it very successfully. Trump got fewer votes than John McCain did eight years earlier, which shows pretty convincingly that her message not to vote for him resonated.

What she didn't do is turn out her own base.
 

cytg111

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How has Trump wronged them?
Republican policy sure... but does that mean not accepting any election? Did these protests happen in previous elections?

Besides running a campaign on hate, fear, sexism racism and everything lowest common denominator?
People are afraid they're looking at some incarnation of the next Adolf Hitler. The real fear is kicking in now, just in the opposite segment.
 

Starbuck1975

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Sure you can, and she did it very successfully. Trump got fewer votes than John McCain did eight years earlier, which shows pretty convincingly that her message not to vote for him resonated.

What she didn't do is turn out her own base.
We are saying the same thing. As damaging as the Bush audio was to Trump, I honestly think that was the turning point. You are beating your opponent in every debate on policy issues that people actually care about, and you pivot into the mud. Fatal error.
 

fskimospy

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We are saying the same thing. As damaging as the Bush audio was to Trump, I honestly think that was the turning point. You are beating your opponent in every debate on policy issues that people actually care about, and you pivot into the mud. Fatal error.

What evidence is this based on? I've seen no evidence that supports that take.
 

michal1980

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So in other words 'you have a right to protest but you're terrible if you actually exercise that right'.

Yes? I fail to see your point. You're the person that always goes on the same rant. You are always saying that if do something others don't like, you should expect a reaction.
 

michal1980

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Sure you can, and she did it very successfully. Trump got fewer votes than John McCain did eight years earlier, which shows pretty convincingly that her message not to vote for him resonated.

What she didn't do is turn out her own base.

as of right now McCain got more vote then Clinton.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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So in other words 'you have a right to protest but you're terrible if you actually exercise that right'.

Dude, you pretty much said what he did about Obamacare when it passed. In either case bitch if people don't like it, but the drama queen thing where slavery is next is stupid.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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So in other words 'you have a right to protest but you're terrible if you actually exercise that right'.

What exactly are they protesting?

The election process?
The EC over the popular vote?
That they are just unhappy with the results?
That enough Dems didn't vote?

Or is it something really stupid, like they just don't like the results.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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This wasn't a business as usual election though. Trump got elected to clean house, simple as that. That's going to piss some people off for sure.

Trump got elected as a big middle finger to the rest of America. There was only 56% turnout & Trump got fewer actual votes than Clinton. 26% of eligible voters have enabled a radical right wing agenda as if it's really a mandate. It's not.
 

poofyhairguy

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Protesting = fine

Demanding results from your protest or you turn to violence = not fine

Been that way for a long time
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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What evidence is this based on? I've seen no evidence that supports that take.
No evidence. I think this election is one of those "where were you" when Hillary lost moments in history.

I remember watching CNN, and when Trump started to close in on Virginia, Michigan and Wisconsin, I immediately flipped to MSNBC because I wanted to hear Maddow's assessment. I thought she was surprisingly honest. Once Pennsylvania came into play, my first thought was that shifting the election narrative to a referendum on Trump's character may have been a mistake.
 

Kazukian

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Trump got elected as a big middle finger to the rest of America. There was only 56% turnout & Trump got fewer actual votes than Clinton. 26% of eligible voters have enabled a radical right wing agenda as if it's really a mandate. It's not.

I know, right?

We're doomed, time to unplug Jhhnn.
 

fskimospy

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Yes? I fail to see your point. You're the person that always goes on the same rant. You are always saying that if do something others don't like, you should expect a reaction.

And the thing you don't like is protesting, that's amazing.
 
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