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IronWing

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Beware the Constitutional Convention. It will start out removing Electoral College but will end up who knows where.
A Constitutional Convention under the current generation of politicians? Hell, I'd be in the streets. We haven't had a crop of politicians capable of the serious thought necessary to convene a Constitutional Convention since the first one.
 
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Does anyone else remember 8 years ago almost to the day when Rush Limbaugh said "I hope Obama fails" and the press and Democrats shit themselves over it? Here it is 8 years later and the Democrats are violently rioting, burning American flags, burning police cars, lynching President-elect Trump in effigy and calling for violent, casualty filled protests (see the above vid). I'm sure the lefties here in these forums will spring forward .................. to support the violence of the rioters.
 
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Beware the Constitutional Convention. It will start out removing Electoral College but will end up who knows where.

We don't need a constitutional convention to effectively dispose of the electoral college. There is an interstate compact that lays out how delegates from those states would go to the winner of the popular vote.
 

Commodus

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Does anyone else remember 8 years ago almost to the day when Rush Limbaugh said "I hope Obama fails" and the press and Democrats shit themselves over it? Here it is 8 years later and the Democrats are violently rioting, burning American flags, burning police cars, lynching President-elect Trump in effigy and calling for violent, casualty filled protests (see the above vid). I'm sure the lefties here in these forums will spring forward .................. to support the violence of the rioters.

That's because Obama is an intelligent, moderate politician whose ideas were and are sound, if imperfect. Limbaugh, as he usually does, was lying and exaggerating to scare his audience into tuning in.

Trump... is none of those things. I don't condone violence, but I will not let cowards like you say whether or not people are allowed to protest in the first place. The US was built on the concept of resisting injustices and taking to the streets. All I hear from you is: "Conform. Submit. Obey."
 

momeNt

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A Constitutional Convention under the current generation of politicians? Hell, I'd be in the streets. We haven't had a crop of politicians capable of the serious thought necessary to convene a Constitutional Convention since the first one.

Basically the one thing every sane person should be able to agree on.
 
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Does anyone else remember 8 years ago almost to the day when Rush Limbaugh said "I hope Obama fails" and the press and Democrats shit themselves over it? Here it is 8 years later and the Democrats are violently rioting, burning American flags, burning police cars, lynching President-elect Trump in effigy and calling for violent, casualty filled protests (see the above vid). I'm sure the lefties here in these forums will spring forward .................. to support the violence of the rioters.
I remember that Obama's message was decidedly different than drumpf, one of hope, one of unity, rather than one of devisiveness and heavy racist overtones
 

werepossum

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As I minority myself who left my ballot blank, their sheer delusion Democrats have in which their way always results in roses and sunshine is more reprehensible than a guy who talks nasty. Somehow, I doubt that aligning with Blues suddenly makes a Dem male any less of a misogynist who objectifies women; it's just a ticket to get it swept under the table with no issue. I HIGHLY doubt that all these Dem college males are all about respect and have never talked about a woman's rear end.

As far as racism goes, yes it is there. But both sides desperately want to use this race card instead of making it a pragmatic matter of eliminating the illegals, wherever they come from. If an entirely legal community is dominated by Hispanics, the denizens should learn Spanish and suck it but. But the illegals should be kicked out by virtue of the law, not because of their race or culture. Illegals are not part of "our country".

The Democratic stronghold Prince George's county is hardly a lovely place to live and even sneered at and avoided by fellow people in liberaltopia NoVa and Montgomery County.
Well said.
 

Kazukian

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I'm perfectly fine with lawful protests.

Am expecting BLM to get pretty active shortly.
 

alien42

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Does anyone else remember 8 years ago almost to the day when Rush Limbaugh said "I hope Obama fails" and the press and Democrats shit themselves over it? Here it is 8 years later and the Democrats are violently rioting, burning American flags, burning police cars, lynching President-elect Trump in effigy and calling for violent, casualty filled protests (see the above vid). I'm sure the lefties here in these forums will spring forward .................. to support the violence of the rioters.

get off your high horse, these don't appear to be Democrats...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/
 

werepossum

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I believe you are from the west coast. I don't expect you to understand the frustrations of the white working class of the rust belt. Most coastal liberals don't. Hillary certainly didn't and it cost her the election.

Michael Moore saw this coming and gave ample warning.

I was never angry at Hillary. Never took to the streets in protest of Hillary. Never vandalized anything because of Hillary. I criticize her on an online forum. I like where Obama was leading the country. I didn't believe a neoliberal insider was the best candidate to carry forward his legacy. I was correct in that assertion.

And if I were facing a President Hillary, I would have shrugged my shoulders and moved on.
Well said.
 

werepossum

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A Constitutional Convention under the current generation of politicians? Hell, I'd be in the streets. We haven't had a crop of politicians capable of the serious thought necessary to convene a Constitutional Convention since the first one.
This, in spades. No one's life, liberty or freedom is safe if we have a Constitutional Convention.
 

Chiropteran

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That's because Obama is an intelligent, moderate politician whose ideas were and are sound, if imperfect. Limbaugh, as he usually does, was lying and exaggerating to scare his audience into tuning in.

Trump... is none of those things. I don't condone violence, but I will not let cowards like you say whether or not people are allowed to protest in the first place. The US was built on the concept of resisting injustices and taking to the streets. All I hear from you is: "Conform. Submit. Obey."

So basically, you are saying that people were not allowed to protest Obama because in your opinion he had sound ideas, and then you follow up by saying people have a right to protest Trump.
 

dud

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What is it going to take for this country to remember who we are ... Americans, not republicans and democrats?

Perhaps another great war to rally behind?
 

SP33Demon

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They're allowed to protest, sure. But they need to realize they didn't swing the election, the Rust Belt states did and the people there are hurting just as much (if not more) than some of these idiots in the city. Maybe some of these protestors should actually visit the Rust Belt like Trump did and see for themselves why they are sick of the establishment.
 
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If you want to see the "Obama legacy" it's in the burned American flags on the ground, glass shattered and scattered across the ground and burning police cars. That's the only "Obama legacy" that remains.
 

gus6464

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They're allowed to protest, sure. But they need to realize they didn't swing the election, the Rust Belt states did and the people there are hurting just as much (if not more) than some of these idiots in the city. Maybe some of these protestors should actually visit the Rust Belt like Trump did and see for themselves why they are sick of the establishment.

So my question to you is. Do you honestly think Trump is going to help these people in the rust belt? At the end of the day he is by himself with a congress that has not given two fucks about the rust belt and that includes the republicans.
 

FerrelGeek

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Frankly, no one knows what he'll do. He might actually make an attempt to help them; unlike the old hag that he beat. After all, they're nothing but deplorable in her eyes.

So my question to you is. Do you honestly think Trump is going to help these people in the rust belt? At the end of the day he is by himself with a congress that has not given two fucks about the rust belt and that includes the republicans.
 

PokerGuy

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That's because Obama is an intelligent, moderate politician whose ideas were and are sound, if imperfect. Limbaugh, as he usually does, was lying and exaggerating to scare his audience into tuning in.

Trump... is none of those things. I don't condone violence, but I will not let cowards like you say whether or not people are allowed to protest in the first place. The US was built on the concept of resisting injustices and taking to the streets. All I hear from you is: "Conform. Submit. Obey."

So basically, obummer was wonderful with great ideas you approve of, therefore people on the right calling for his failure was uncalled for. Trump is reprehensible (deplorable? ) in your opinion, and thus protesting, riots and looting etc before he has even taken office are all just mere justified 1st amendment protected "protest". I call BS. You're just imposing your view of who is 'good' or 'bad' to justify behavior. Either it's OK or it's not, it doesn't depend on what you think of the ideas of the candidate.

I found obummer and his minion's ideas just as reprehensible as people think Trump to be, yet I was not out in the street rioting, looting and doing the usual lefty stuff.
 

gus6464

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Frankly, no one knows what he'll do. He might actually make an attempt to help them; unlike the old hag that he beat. After all, they're nothing but deplorable in her eyes.

He can't do anything because his own congress won't let him. McConnell has already said half the shit on his list is not happening. Trump hates all the people he has to work with for the next 4 years. So two things, he will just fall in line and nothing will happen or he will burn the shit to the ground.

I can't wait for him to come on TV and blast every single republican for not allowing him to do anything as it will hurt them. He is going to burn down the GOP in such a spectacular fashion.
 
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He can't do anything because his own congress won't let him. McConnell has already said half the shit on his list is not happening. Trump hates all the people he has to work with for the next 4 years. So two things, he will just fall in line and nothing will happen or he will burn the shit to the ground.

I can't wait for him to come on TV and blast every single republican for not allowing him to do anything as it will hurt them. He is going to burn down the GOP in such a spectacular fashion.
Sounds like a Democrat wet dream............. have you already cleaned up after the one where Hillary won?
 

Commodus

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So basically, you are saying that people were not allowed to protest Obama because in your opinion he had sound ideas, and then you follow up by saying people have a right to protest Trump.

No, anyone had the right to protest Obama. There just wasn't a huge incentive to protest him, because in the end he was and is a moderate. He didn't propose to deport millions of people, or ban immigrants based solely on their religion. He didn't grope women, childishly insult them or threaten to "punish" them for taking advantage of reproductive freedom. He was neither a warmonger nor a diehard peacenik; even his health care plan was born out of compromise (if you want an actual left-wing solution, it'd be single-payer).

Were there things you could get angry about if you were on the right wing? Sure. But enough legitimate gripes that hundreds of thousands of people would be marching on the streets? Not really. Unless you were part of that "Obama's a secret Muslim comin' to take our guns" camp, you weren't frightened for the future of the country.

That's not the case with Trump. His explicitly outlined policies and statements have minorities and women sincerely scared about losing the freedom and relative safety they've enjoyed under Obama. I see women rushing to get IUDs because Trump might take away their easy access to birth control; I see LGBT people rushing to get married or get passports because they're concerned future attempts will be delegitimized; I see minorities (including my brother's wife) terrified that equality efforts will stop or reverse, and that racists now feel free to show their hate in the open (we already have firm evidence of this happening).

Combine that with his fondness for torture, his coziness with Russia and his likely corrupt cabinet (a bank exec for the Treasury, an oil tycoon for the Interior, a creationist for Education and generally reviled old-guard politicians in other spots) and it's not surprising that there are protests. It's like all the effort Obama spent on compassionate, intelligent, moderate government just got swept away.
 
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gus6464

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Sounds like a Democrat wet dream............. have you already cleaned up after the one where Hillary won?

I don't need to dream. I live in CA which won't be affected much by his shenanigans. Gun laws just got stricter in the state which requires a DOJ background check to buy ammo so I'm happy. If anything he's going to help me with a tax break. All those people in the rust belt which voted for him thinking change was coming will be in for a rude awakening.
 

Ackmed

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Trump... is none of those things. I don't condone violence, but I will not let cowards like you say whether or not people are allowed to protest in the first place. The US was built on the concept of resisting injustices and taking to the streets. All I hear from you is: "Conform. Submit. Obey."

There is a lot of actions that are not protests. But straight up violence. Calls for deaths. The person you quoted did not say anything about not allowing protests. Some of the actions are not protests, not even close. But disregard facts, rant on.
 

hal2kilo

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Yes, the American dream is destroyed with the electoral choice of Trump. Trump has always been for the established. Just look at his cabinet picks. Nice splash, in the anti-establishment...

Instead, we could have gotten a woman elected, which vowed to apply Bernie Sanders-like reform to education, post office, and healthcare.Unassisted manufacturing is in decline, while augmented manufacturing is on the rise.
This is mainly because the requirements are increasing, while education remains the same or has gotten worse.
If you are running two incomes and barely make ends meet. Maybe, you need to go to a fiscal responsibility course.
The healthcare bill didn't change the healthcare market. So, I don't understand the point of complaining about something that was always systemic. Healthcare will always be expensive since that market has the most fear of becoming a free commodity. It falls under the dole/welfare with free higher public education(community college)/(technical schools).It is wrong to vote for Trump. Especially, if you/ye think he isn't establishment. Welcome to the 1st amendment...
Yea, we're going to get real change this time. Oh, I see Jamie Dimon being floated for Secretary of Treasurer. Yea, it will be a revolution. You guys got suckered big time.
 
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