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Commodus

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There is a lot of actions that are not protests. But straight up violence. Calls for deaths. The person you quoted did not say anything about not allowing protests. Some of the actions are not protests, not even close. But disregard facts, rant on.

I'm not justifying those. But the problem is, he's painting it as nothing but rioting and violence. That's untrue, and the attempt to characterize it that way underscores his real thoughts. He doesn't want people to protest Trump, period. You saw this happen with anti-BLM advocacy as well: falsely portray it as an inherently violent movement so you have an excuse to ignore it and avoid addressing the concerns that spawned it.
 
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michal1980

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I'm not justifying those. But the problem is, he's painting it as nothing but rioting and violence. That's untrue, and the attempt to characterize it that way underscores his real thoughts. He doesn't want people to protest Trump, period. You saw this happen with anti-BLM advocacy as well: falsely portray it as an inherently violent movement so you have an excuse to ignore it and avoid addressing the concerns that spawned it.

And all Trump voters are racist according to nearly every liberal, but I don't see you upset by that.
 
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trenchfoot

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The people these spoiled brats should really be angry with are in the DNC. They're the ones, along with the rich elites, that ordained a tired old hag because it was 'her turn'. They screwed Bernie and their chance to get all the free sh*t he was promising them.

They don't like the man himself. I'm sure you'd agree that Trump is pretty much a rich, privileged spoiled brat himself, wouldn't you? I personally wouldn't want that kind of guy as president, although I must admit that as a snake oil salesman he's the best there ever was. I mean, he literally scammed his way into the presidency. These folks who are protesting can see that plain as day. Who he is as a person didn't win him the presidency, his skill as Scammer in Chief did, and I really don't think those folks who voted for him are going to hold him to his word about anything and everything he ran on. What he will do is take care of himself and the class of society he got brought up in first, and like the true trickle down jerb creator he is, he's going to, mark my words, keep that philosophy intact and rolling.

I certainly hold the DNC responsible for not giving Trump his due as the epic con man he is. I mean, I was just as surprised as anyone else that he won, and I'll bet the most surprised person on the face of this increasingly insane nation of ours is Trump himself, right?
 

mizzou

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It's a good showing that trump will inherit the most divided country and closed minded citizens ever. Sorry but we can't unfriend trump. awe are stuck with him for better or worse.

The big stability we have is our constitutional those on the left and right can rely on it but they both want to mess with it. We all have to remind us that the constitution is the supreme law of the land and it will protect its citizens if we follow it and trust in it
 

werepossum

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So basically, obummer was wonderful with great ideas you approve of, therefore people on the right calling for his failure was uncalled for. Trump is reprehensible (deplorable? ) in your opinion, and thus protesting, riots and looting etc before he has even taken office are all just mere justified 1st amendment protected "protest". I call BS. You're just imposing your view of who is 'good' or 'bad' to justify behavior. Either it's OK or it's not, it doesn't depend on what you think of the ideas of the candidate.

I found obummer and his minion's ideas just as reprehensible as people think Trump to be, yet I was not out in the street rioting, looting and doing the usual lefty stuff.
I'd actually prefer Obama to Trump, but that's well said.

Obama turned out better than I had feared. I'm hoping for the same from Trump, especially since some of the things he supposedly wants to do (control the borders, not sign trade agreements that are not in our favor) are things I very much favor.

It's a good showing that trump will inherit the most divided country and closed minded citizens ever. Sorry but we can't unfriend trump. awe are stuck with him for better or worse.

The big stability we have is our constitutional those on the left and right can rely on it but they both want to mess with it. We all have to remind us that the constitution is the supreme law of the land and it will protect its citizens if we follow it and trust in it
Well said. I wish I still had your faith that the Constitution is still the supreme law of the land though.
 
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Triloby

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I certainly hold the DNC responsible for not giving Trump his due as the epic con man he is. I mean, I was just as surprised as anyone else that he won, and I'll bet the most surprised person on the face of this increasingly insane nation of ours is Trump himself, right?

The DNC will need to wise up in 2020. With the way things are going right now, I'm not so sure they will learn from their mistakes. If Trump blows everyone's minds by performing amazingly as president, the Democrats will be SOL in 2020 and probably 2024.
 

Lash444

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Cant we all just.... get along?

Did you hear that shit in the last 8 years? Reminds me of the kids in high school, who played as dirty as possible at sports, and when they win the game they want to shake your hand. Are you kidding me? You spent the last 8 years playing the dirtiest politics this country has ever seen.

Top that off with the fact you might as well have voted in Andrew Jackson, and told the Native Americans "Can't we all just...get along?" How about for a start, you don't elect a leader who spews hate every 10 seconds.
 
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Caesar

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Get this: Trump thinks it's "very unfair" that people are protesting.

Just wait until someone tells him that peaceful assembly (which is most of the protesting) is a constitutional right, and that these protests are unlikely to go away any time soon. It's practically the definition of fairness in the United States.

This guys is a nutjob. Now as a leader, you don't complain about your people disagreeing with you or being unhappy. You give them hope and get their support. He is the kind who would berate anyone who doesn't agree with him. Forget about "freedom of speech" if you don't agree with him.
 

Chiropteran

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Get this: Trump thinks it's "very unfair" that people are protesting.

Just wait until someone tells him that peaceful assembly (which is most of the protesting) is a constitutional right, and that these protests are unlikely to go away any time soon. It's practically the definition of fairness in the United States.

This isn't a peaceful assembly of citizens. This is a corporate sponsored protest.

Notice the word "professional" in his tweet.
 
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werepossum

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This guys is a nutjob. Now as a leader, you don't complain about your people disagreeing with you or being unhappy. You give them hope and get their support. He is the kind who would berate anyone who doesn't agree with him. Forget about "freedom of speech" if you don't agree with him.
Or you just accuse them of being bitter and clinging to their guns and their religion. They don't even have to be burning police cars and vandalizing buildings to deserve that, they just have to disagree with you.
 

Caesar

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Or you just accuse them of being bitter and clinging to their guns and their religion. They don't even have to be burning police cars and vandalizing buildings to deserve that, they just have to disagree with you.

And I denounced that statement as well. Besides Trump is the president for all of them (their leader) now so you don't bitch and complain about your own people you are supposed to lead. Contrasting that, his people have the right to protest peacefully. He complained similarly during his campaign and I had no problem (I didn't like it, but he could do whatever he wants), but now he won and is the leader of this country. So he shouldn't be whining like a little bitch. Booohooooooo everything is rigged and against me - well he won ----- booohooooo they don't like me ---- so unfair!
 

shady28

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Get this: Trump thinks it's "very unfair" that people are protesting.

Just wait until someone tells him that peaceful assembly (which is most of the protesting) is a constitutional right, and that these protests are unlikely to go away any time soon. It's practically the definition of fairness in the United States.

Nice, but lets include the whole quote shall we?

"Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!"

Now why would he say that?

Maybe because they are being organized by George Soros' Moveon.org?
 

Commodus

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This isn't a peaceful assembly of citizens. This is a corporate sponsored protest.

Notice the word "professional" in his tweet.

Name the corporation(s), please.

And two things: first, buses don't necessarily mean it's a corporate-backed protest. When you organize a large-scale protest, it's not uncommon to rent buses to get everyone there. That many? Hard to say, but not unheard of.

The other bit... even if a company was paying for the buses, it's not necessarily paying the protestors or mandating that they go. If the people are going voluntarily and without recompense, they're not "professionals."

I'm reminded of what I saw on election day, when Trump supporters were freaking out about voter "fraud" because a pastor was driving people to a polling place. It's this weird attempt to criminalize legal activity out of a knee-jerk fear of seeing an 'enemy' operate in groups. No, they can't actually have such broad support, it has to be a conspiracy!
 

Commodus

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Nice, but lets include the whole quote shall we?

"Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!"

Now why would he say that?

Maybe because they are being organized by George Soros' Moveon.org?

They're still not professional protestors if so. It's like complaining that MLK's March on Washington was organized by the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (not to put Soros or Moveon.org on the same level as MLK). Moveon can pay for the buses, but it can't make people come to the protest -- there still has to be an underlying motivation for people to come.

And funny, even if the Austin protest was as bad as Trump pretends it is... what about the protests in cities across the US? Were all of them just an evil conspiracy to take Trump down? Or, perish the thought, maybe there really is serious, widespread outrage that prompted people to take to the streets.
 

Zaap

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If the shoe had been on the other foot, we know for an absolute fact that there would have been protests over the "lock her up" "Clinton Crime Family" and the like.
Really? Were there massive protests by conservatives when Bill Clinton was elected twice? It's been long while and I was young but I don't recall any.

Were there for either of Obama's wins? After all, according to the left echo chamber everyone is racist so they must have protested that a black guy got elected.

Doesn't really sound like many conservatives I know though. Most are too busy with things like jobs, families, behaving like adults, etc.
 

Vic

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Really? Were there massive protests by conservatives when Bill Clinton was elected twice? It's been long while and I was young but I don't recall any.

Were there for either of Obama's wins? After all, according to the left echo chamber everyone is racist so they must have protested that a black guy got elected.

Doesn't really sound like many conservatives I know though. Most are too busy with things like jobs, families, behaving like adults, etc.
Is this a joke? Or have you not noticed that RGR and SWHC have tanked in the last 2 days?
 
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