Protest happening across the US

[LegendKiller]

The president elect insinuated at a rally that Hillary Clinton and/or her supreme court nominees should be assassinated. Get off that high horse.

No, he brought up the hypocrisy of being anti gun but having armed escorts everywhere.

 

[sportage]

Keep saying... This is different.
What Trump is planning with his cabinet picks certainly has now confirm this. This will turn America upside down. Turn back so much progress that people have fought so hard for.
And what they plan will definitely result in great harm to millions and millions of Americans.
And for no reason other than they can do it.

Take Obamacare as one example.
I can't see why they are so hell bent on the destruction of this program when millions have signed up, and they seem to enjoy and benefit from ACA.
So whats the point of picking on these people?
If Trump really cared or gave a damn, he would pick on millionaires just like him that get away without paying a dime in taxes.
Maybe when Donald begins paying taxes, healthcare will not be an issue.
But no......
All they are focused on are poor people having healthcare.

March? Protest?
Damn straight people will march and protest.
When millions of lives are at stake probably including your own, you protest.

People never protested GW or Reagan because they were not hell bent on the destruction of millions of lives.
Trump and the cabinet he assembles is damn scary indeed.
Every single member has a past of extreme racist, homophobic, bigoted ideology.
Every single one of his picks.
You can't simply slap lipstick on this pig, you must get involved and protect.

 

[K1052]

No, he brought up the hypocrisy of being anti gun but having armed escorts everywhere.

That was a separate incident besides the one to which I was referring, one which I don't find less troubling actually. And yes he did.

 

[Jaskalas]

Trump is not even President before Jan 20th.
These protests / riots are against the election results, driven by hysteria from the media.
Then Obama encourages them. A sitting President is encouraging people to reject an election.

You realize that without elections, humans return to the use of force, right?
And if you wonder what that looks like... witness Aleppo. You want that coming to your town, to your home?
Peaceful transfer of power is the only thing standing between you and death. Do not be so hasty to assault it.

 

[Darwin333]

sounds like some protesters need some education about standing on a FUCKING HIGHWAY.

natural selection at it's finest.

Pretty sure they just got said education.

 

[frowertr]

If people had been protesting Obama in the streets upon his election (or re-election) they would be labeled racists. Yet those protesting Trump are somehow forward thinking anti-racists...

This county man...

 

[Commodus]

Trump is not even President before Jan 20th.
These protests / riots are against the election results, driven by hysteria from the media.
Then Obama encourages them. A sitting President is encouraging people to reject an election.

You realize that without elections, humans return to the use of force, right?
And if you wonder what that looks like... witness Aleppo. You want that coming to your town, to your home?
Peaceful transfer of power is the only thing standing between you and death. Do not be so hasty to assault it.

Only if you read the full quote instead of stopping at the headline and first paragraph, that's not really what he's saying. (And remember, this is Fox News: it's putting a pro-Republican spin on the story to create outrage)

He's saying that he wouldn't tell people to be silent if they're genuinely upset. He's not urging protests, let alone riots and violence. Would he have said the same if there had been large, widespread protests when he took office? It's hard to say, because those protests didn't happen.

Besides, a friendly reminder: peaceful protests, which are the majority of what's happening, are crucial to a good, functioning democracy. If you believe people should shut up, conform and submit, you're an anti-American coward.

 

[Kazukian]

Only if you read the full quote instead of stopping at the headline and first paragraph, that's not really what he's saying. (And remember, this is Fox News: it's putting a pro-Republican spin on the story to create outrage)

He's saying that he wouldn't tell people to be silent if they're genuinely upset. He's not urging protests, let alone riots and violence. Would he have said the same if there had been large, widespread protests when he took office? It's hard to say, because those protests didn't happen.

Besides, a friendly reminder: peaceful protests, which are the majority of what's happening, are crucial to a good, functioning democracy. If you believe people should shut up, conform and submit, you're an anti-American coward.

I agree, and even to the point of causing some level of civil disobedience, otherwise people won't pay attention to you. Dunno about calling people cowards though.

 

[Commodus]

If people had been protesting Obama in the streets upon his election (or re-election) they would be labeled racists. Yet those protesting Trump are somehow forward thinking anti-racists...

This county man...

Not necessarily. It would've depended entirely on the subject of the protests and whether or not they had racist subtexts, or racist factions that wouldn't go away.

But of course, Obama didn't see these kinds of widescale protests, and was never going to. Here's the difference: at his core, Obama is a much more moderate, rational and inclusive politician than Trump is. People had no reason to fear that their rights and freedoms would be under threat simply because they didn't share the same skin color, gender, sexual orientation and religious background (not that I think Trump is religious) as the president. He didn't threaten to expand libel laws, cut off press access and attack any criticism of his administration as "harassment" or "unfair." He didn't reject scientific truth; he was neither warmonger nor peacenik; he had actual political experience; he was not egotistical or petty.

This is what's frustrating -- the attempts to create a false equivalency between Obama and Trump (or Trump and any other US president, really). The protests are targeting Trump because his explicitly outlined policies, and the people associated with the administration, are genuinely hateful toward large chunks of the population.

 

[Commodus]

I agree, and even to the point of causing some level of civil disobedience, otherwise people won't pay attention to you. Dunno about calling people cowards though.

I'm being hyperbolic, to be sure, but at the same time... we need to stop dancing around the subject and pretending that it's alright to seriously suggest that the very act of protesting is wrong. In many cases, the subtext of these attacks on the protest is "no criticism of my preferred ideology is allowed." It's that classic tendency of people to forget that defending free speech means protecting speech you disagree with, so long as it's peaceful.

 

[senseamp]

We all need to band together to resist Trump. I am not a protesting type though.
But Trump should be rejected by Americans. He is not who we are.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

We all need to band together to resist Trump. I am not a protesting type though.
But Trump should be rejected by Americans. He is not who we are.

I cannot agree with that sentiment enough. Even here in the middle of the cornfields of illinois, you will find those who reject his messages of hate, misogyny, xenophobia, etc. That does give me hope.

 

[pauldun170]

Trump is not even President before Jan 20th.
These protests / riots are against the election results, driven by hysteria from the media.
Then Obama encourages them. A sitting President is encouraging people to reject an election.

You realize that without elections, humans return to the use of force, right?
And if you wonder what that looks like... witness Aleppo. You want that coming to your town, to your home?
Peaceful transfer of power is the only thing standing between you and death. Do not be so hasty to assault it.

Foxnews counts on its core audience to skim and not pay attention. They understand that its core demographic doesn't care about details.

"Whenever you have got an incoming president of the other side, particularly after a bitter election like this, it takes a while for people to reconcile themselves with that new reality. Hopefully, it's a reminder that elections matter and voting counts,"

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-to-trump-protesters-231558

“I’ve been the subject of protests during the course of my eight years,” he said during a joint press conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel. “And I suspect that there’s not a president in our history that hasn’t been subject to these protests. So I would not advise people who feel strongly or who are concerned about some of the issues that have been raised during the course of the campaign, I wouldn’t advise them to be silent.”

“I can say across Europe that many principles that have been taken for granted here around free speech and around civil liberties and an independent judiciary and fighting corruption — those are principles that, you know, not perfectly but generally we have tried to apply not just in our own country but also with respect to our foreign policy,” Obama said.

So you have a president elect and a GOP who are trying to stifle disssent. Trying to shut down conversation that falls outside the prescribed narrative. Trump and his staff are demanding apologies from anyone and everyone. GOP leaders are demanding that the President, whose job is to enforce the law of the land, to stifle free speech.

You have an outgoing president who throughout his term has clearly said "Its your right to speak your mind....just don't break shit".

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Foxnews counts on its core audience to skim and not pay attention. They understand that its core demographic doesn't care about details.



http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-to-trump-protesters-231558






So you have a president elect and a GOP who are trying to stifle disssent. Trying to shut down conversation that falls outside the prescribed narrative. Trump and his staff are demanding apologies from anyone and everyone. GOP leaders are demanding that the President, whose job is to enforce the law of the land, to stifle free speech.

You have an outgoing president who throughout his term has clearly said "Its your right to speak your mind....just don't break shit".

Sorry, just needed a minor tweak

 

[agent00f]

We can only hope.

Careful which side of this image you want to be remembered on:

 

[senseamp]

If I decided to protest, I just wouldn't buy, to the extent I could avoid, stuff manufactured in Trump supporting states to deny Trump supporters the jobs they thought they would get by voting for him, until they associate Trumpism with misery. I certainly would not be out in the streets trashing my own liberal city.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

If I decided to protest, I just wouldn't buy, to the extent I could avoid, stuff manufactured in Trump supporting states to deny Trump supporters the jobs they thought they would get by voting for him, until they associate Trumpism with misery. I certainly would not be out in the streets trashing my own liberal city.

What ? You're not going to be marching down the street burning police cars, kicking in store windows, looting, blocking traffic, setting fires in intersections, blocking ambulances, beating anyone that opposed your selection, wearing a mask while you protest, using pre-printed protest signs, getting bused in to a violent protest, throwing rocks/bottles at the police or advocating violence? and you have the nerve to call yourself a Democrat?

 

[senseamp]

GOP will self destruct without my protests. Just look at Trump's cabinet nominees. Coocoo for cocoa puffs.

 

[blake0812]

Great insight on the issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QrHoMDDWq4

I've been watching this guys videos for awhile, he's pretty on point about it.

 

[senseamp]

I'll just put this in both for despairing Democrats and the gloating Trumpists.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'll just put this in both for despairing Democrats and the gloating Trumpists.

lol... ahem..

 

[buckshot24]

We all need to band together to resist Trump. I am not a protesting type though.
But Trump should be rejected by Americans. He is not who we are.

I think you're right. We aren't President-Elect, he is.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Careful which side of this image you want to be remembered on:

The civil rights movement of the 60s wanted to be treated as equals. The civil rights movement of today wants to be treated special and have a right to assault people without repercussions (see: anyone that thinks Trayvon Martin was anything more than a violent criminal). If I'm forced to pick a side I'll pick this one:

 

[agent00f]

The civil rights movement of the 60s wanted to be treated as equals. The civil rights movement of today wants to be treated special and have a right to assault people without repercussions (see: anyone that thinks Trayvon Martin was anything more than a violent criminal). If I'm forced to pick a side I'll pick this one:

That's what the people on the right thought, too, "separate but equal".

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Where did I say anything about separation?