PS2 vs. Xbox vs. Gamecube

[kami]

Do we really need another one of these threas? THE SAME FREAKIN POINTS ARE BROUGHT UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

I got another idea for a thread!! How about Cock vs. Penis vs. Dick!!!!

Well now, the Cock has been out longer and has more games, but the graphics blow goats, especially on a big TV
The Penis is superior from a technical standpoint, has plenty of games nowadays, but it's still convienent to say it has none. Oh and its also big and ugly.
The Dick (first name "Stub") is colorful and full of fat little italians.

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: TheeeChosenOne

Whatever you do, I'd stay away from GC. Although it has good first-party titles, it is likely to go the way of Dreamcast. Then you're stuck with a 10 pound paperweight! I love my GC unit, but my head has to think over my heart!

A dead system with excellent games is still a system with excellent games.

I was still playing Soul Calibur on my Dreamcast up until the sequel was released.

 

[spidey07]

Got all three of them.

In the past 4 months the gamecube has gotten the most play by far over the xbox and ps2.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

You're sitting here saying that the GC is dead and the XBox is dominating, yet I can find NOT A SINGLE STATISTIC that says the XBox is doing signifigantly better than the GC, nor is it doing anything close to the PS2. So buying a console based on the myth that cannot be proven that the GC is dead is pointless. I have come up with figures showing that the GC is doing quite well, and PS2 is doing very well, and the XBox is doing okay in the US but poorly in Japan. YOU have come up with no facts or figures. I am not a fanboy in any way, I have consoles from three manufacturers hooked upto my TV at home and I have handhelds from two in my car. I go where the games are.

Make a list of what games you want to play.
Put the console names beside those.
See which one pops up the most.
Get that console.

The GC is not dead.
The XBox is not dominating.
The PS2 still has some life left to it.
All three will be obselete within the same 1-2 year window.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Got all three of them.

In the past 4 months the gamecube has gotten the most play by far over the xbox and ps2.

Ditto. I gave away my PS2 last month and my XBox is still in storage from when I moved 8 months ago. If I ever finish playing FZero & Mario Golf, I'll pull it out and pick up KOTOR.

 

[spidey07]

Fzero and Mario golf are what I've been playing.

Loads of fun.

Its all about the games baby. Who cares what platform they're on.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
You're sitting here saying that the GC is dead and the XBox is dominating, yet I can find NOT A SINGLE STATISTIC that says the XBox is doing signifigantly better than the GC, nor is it doing anything close to the PS2. So buying a console based on the myth that cannot be proven that the GC is dead is pointless. I have come up with figures showing that the GC is doing quite well, and PS2 is doing very well, and the XBox is doing okay in the US but poorly in Japan. YOU have come up with no facts or figures. I am not a fanboy in any way, I have consoles from three manufacturers hooked upto my TV at home and I have handhelds from two in my car. I go where the games are.

It's funny watching you get mad b/c you're putting words into my mouth that I never said. I never once said the GC is dead - it's slipping obviously. The stopping of production? The multitude of articles of dropped developer support? The multitude of high quality bad ass Nintendo first party titles, yet it's still third to the "PortBox", as every XBox hater here calls it?

The thing about GC outselling PS2 was actually in the UK so that was my bad:

http://subscriber.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=1009943&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=arc

I don't have solid numbers on how far sales have dropped since this article:

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/nintendosgcdoublessales.shtml

But I'm guessing it's not anywhere near the sales figures of that article.

Make a list of what games you want to play.
Put the console names beside those.
See which one pops up the most.
Get that console.

The GC is not dead.
The XBox is not dominating.
The PS2 still has some life left to it.
All three will be obselete within the same 1-2 year window.

Oh and if you read my first reply to this thread, I said the exact same thing.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Dreamcast > *

- M4H

 

[Aharami]

friend has xbox. i love the racing games on it. and Halo and Halo2 alone are reasons enough to buy an XBOX.

 

[skace]

I started out with PS2. Because in the beginning, PS2 had the biggest library and backing for all my old PSX games. There was no reason to get an Xbox or GC. As of a month ago, I finally bought a GC. Why? Because the GC library finally had enough titles that I REALLY wanted to play. And the titles are what make the system. I said to myself, "damn the GC is pretty cheap and I really want to play metroid prime, zelda wind waker, sc2, fzero gx, eternal darkness". So I got it and got all those games with it. Almost every game on that list is an amazing title. So for a few hundred bucks, I got many many hours of entertainment.

See, what I do is I go to www.ebgames.com and look through each of the sections. Then I add games to my wishlist that I think I may like. After adding them to my wishlist, I do searches on common game sites / google for good reviews of the games. If the reviews show that the game is just pretty colors with no real content, I then remove them from my list (most good reviews can give you a good idea of whether you will like a game or not). At this time, I havn't found enough games in my wishlist to bother buying an Xbox. I think it would be cool to have all 3 consoles, but it hasn't gotten to that "ok thats it, now I MUST buy one" point.

Crossplatform titles are another issue. At first, I only had the PS2 so I was only buying crossplatform titles for my ps2. But after using my GC, I realize that the hardware is truly superior to my PS2 and I would rather get crossplatform games for my GC. The thing is, my GC seems to load and save MUCH faster than my PS2. Loading / Saving is one of the most annoying things when it comes to a PS2. If I had an Xbox, I would probably buy most of my cross platform titles for it, because it has the most superior hardware. Except Soul Calibur 2, because Link owns .

Now, unless some amazing games come out for the Xbox in the near future, my next console will most likely be another PS2 to replace my aging, broken one with a void warranty. But if my PS2 was still in perfect condition, I would be buying an Xbox and finally have all 3 systems.

So, I suggest you do this. Go to ebgames.com and start a wishlist of all the games you would like to play, regardless of platform. Now go into that wishlist and rate (in your head) all the games by order of 'necessity'. Then count them up and see which console will give you more enjoyment. And then buy that one.

PS. If GTA/GTA Vice City or Halo are selling points for you, Make sure you realize that those games are all available on the PC now. Well, Halo will be this month.

I hope this long winded post helps you get a better idea of what you want to get.

 

[BennyD]

"I don't want to start a flamewar here, I'm just looking for some useful advice."

never heard that before

 

[spaceman]

for those who say Halo is the pinnacle of console FPS's, i have one question...have you ever heard of metroid prime or played it?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: ncircle
for those who say Halo is the pinnacle of console FPS's, i have one question...have you ever heard of metroid prime or played it?

Yes.

Completed prime twice (once on hard) Awesome game. Absolutely awesome.

It still ain't no Halo.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Prime is the FPS for people that don't like FPS games. And it's only a single player, which leaves out what is debatably the best feature of FPS games: PvP action.

 

[spaceman]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: ncircle
for those who say Halo is the pinnacle of console FPS's, i have one question...have you ever heard of metroid prime or played it?

Yes.

Completed prime twice (once on hard) Awesome game. Absolutely awesome.

It still ain't no Halo.

I fail to see how halo is a better single player game on ANY level vs. Metroid Prime.
environments,soundtrack,presentation etc.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: ncircle

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: ncircle
for those who say Halo is the pinnacle of console FPS's, i have one question...have you ever heard of metroid prime or played it?

Yes.

Completed prime twice (once on hard) Awesome game. Absolutely awesome.

It still ain't no Halo.

I fail to see how halo is a better single player game on ANY level vs. Metroid Prime.
environments,soundtrack,presentation etc.

Enemies, AI, openess and difficulty of the game.

Those are my reasons. But hey we all got opinions. I loved metroid prime.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: ncircle

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: ncircle
for those who say Halo is the pinnacle of console FPS's, i have one question...have you ever heard of metroid prime or played it?

Yes.

Completed prime twice (once on hard) Awesome game. Absolutely awesome.

It still ain't no Halo.

I fail to see how halo is a better single player game on ANY level vs. Metroid Prime.
environments,soundtrack,presentation etc.

It's an opinion. My good friend hates Halo but loves Metroid Prime, thinks it's one of the best FPS' ever made. My cousin loves Halo but hates Metroid Prime. (He plays Halo on a regular basis on XBC all the time) It just depends on your POV. Halo has been named the reason to get an XBox, and after almost 2 years, it's still selling for full price ($49.99) because quite frankly they know anyone who gets/has an XBox would be willing to pay that much for it, instead of naming it a Platinum title and marking it down to $19.99. The same thing could be said for MP probably in 2 years.

 

[00Jones]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Console Hardware Sales Chart
From: Aug 25 - Aug 31, 2003
System Sales this week Total Sales in 2003
GameBoy Advance SP 42,600 1,575,400
GameCube 35,600 486,200
PlayStation 2 35,300 1,953,300
GameBoy Advance 12,100 1,031,800
PSone 960 54,300
Xbox 650 72,500
WonderSwan Crystal 520 29,500
WonderSwan Color 180 15,100

Source: http://www.the-magicbox.com/toptenDengeki.htm


Although those are only Japanese numbers, it looks like the Gamecube is doing f'ing great!

Lets drag up numbers for North America, the UK, and Europe. Toss in Australia. There is a reason Nintendo stopped producing GCs for a while, they arent exactly selling all that great. The Xbox leads the GC everywhere in the world, except Japan, where Xbox is an absolute failure, but everyone, including MS, figured that would happen, but Japan doesnt really matter these days.

Exactly, Japan is a very small portion of gamers around the world. I think Europe has more gamers then Japan.

 

PS2: Tons of games, crappy graphics
Xbox: Good graphics, no games
NGC: Not many games but a select set of VERY good games
PC: Makes all of the above it's bitch

 

[sash1]

Get the GameCube. I got one, and for a while was debating on which to get. Metroid Prime, F-Zero, Super Monkey ball are all A+++ titles only for GCN.

As for people saying Gamesube is dead. Yes, a few developers are dropping support. But who buys Acclaim games anyways?

Oh and GameCube does support online play, although the only game I know of is PSO, which is quite good, but I enjoyed it more on the Dreamcast.

My second vote would go to the PS2. Grrreat selection of games. Online is free. It's just an awesome console.

Thirdly would be a GBA.

Lastly would be the XBOX. I hate it. Halo gets old after a week or so. TimeSplitters is much better and Metroid Prime is better still. And who wants to play buggy KOTOR anyways?

Only bad news for the GCN is that Crystal Chronicles got delayed!

That's just my opinion! I'll be playing some F-Zero while you decide

~Aunix

 

[HiTek21]

I have one of each and I play my gamecube more often now because Soul Calibur 2 (w/ Link) & FZero GX hit the market. I like a lot of the Nintendo exclusive titles esp the multiplayer oens like Super Smash Bros, Super Monkey Ball, & Mario Party. I can't wait for Mario Kart Double Dash to be released then its on. I still think Xbox is a kick ass system, I'm just waiting for some titles like Ninja Gaiden to hit the market, because theres nothing that I really want on Xbox.

 

[ed21x]

Personally I suggest waiting another year or two. With all the talk regarding next generation console developments well underway (xbox2, ps3, whatever nintendo has up their sleaves), it seems like the lifeline for most of the current consoles shouldn't be anymore than 2-3 more years... But if you must... I suggest getting a PS2 for the DVD functionality and high selection of games. If you already have a DVD player, then choose gc for the best titles. xbox doesn't seem to impress me their their exclusive titles quite as much =\

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: ed21x
Personally I suggest waiting another year or two. With all the talk regarding next generation console developments well underway (xbox2, ps3, whatever nintendo has up their sleaves), it seems like the lifeline for most of the current consoles shouldn't be anymore than 2-3 more years... But if you must... I suggest getting a PS2 for the DVD functionality and high selection of games. If you already have a DVD player, then choose gc for the best titles. xbox doesn't seem to impress me their their exclusive titles quite as much =\

Also, the DVD playing capabilities of the Xbox and PS2 are irrelevant - I have a good DVD player, so it just comes down to games.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: 00Jones

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Console Hardware Sales Chart
From: Aug 25 - Aug 31, 2003
System Sales this week Total Sales in 2003
GameBoy Advance SP 42,600 1,575,400
GameCube 35,600 486,200
PlayStation 2 35,300 1,953,300
GameBoy Advance 12,100 1,031,800
PSone 960 54,300
Xbox 650 72,500
WonderSwan Crystal 520 29,500
WonderSwan Color 180 15,100

Source: http://www.the-magicbox.com/toptenDengeki.htm


Although those are only Japanese numbers, it looks like the Gamecube is doing f'ing great!

Lets drag up numbers for North America, the UK, and Europe. Toss in Australia. There is a reason Nintendo stopped producing GCs for a while, they arent exactly selling all that great. The Xbox leads the GC everywhere in the world, except Japan, where Xbox is an absolute failure, but everyone, including MS, figured that would happen, but Japan doesnt really matter these days.

Exactly, Japan is a very small portion of gamers around the world. I think Europe has more gamers then Japan.

Actually Japan accounts for about 1/3 of all consoles sold- last I checked they had about as many gamers as the United States in terms of overall console sales. If you exclude japan, then the xbox is doing better overall. But if you include Japan, then Gamecube has a commanding lead- and thats' how it is right now.

 

[amnesiac]

Gamecube is dying in the US. It's cheaper but great games are few and far between, plus the controller sucks all manners of dirty balls.

Xbox is my favorite but it's just because it has better eye candy.

My PS2 doesn't get nearly enough use. It's the best all-around system even though the visuals aren't as impressive as the 'box, but it has by far the biggest and best game library as well as the best controller.