Not the same way it is now. During the SNES/Genesis era, for example, everyone co-existed peacefully. At least where I was from, anyway.
Not the same way it is now. During the SNES/Genesis era, for example, everyone co-existed peacefully. At least where I was from, anyway.
I remember when no one gave a god damn fuck who beat who and we all just enjoyed games that were fun.
/shakes cane
Hmm really? As far as I know we've been in a perpetual console war since the 80's and people have been bickering about what console was better the whole time...
Atari vs. Intellivision vs. Colecovision, NES vs Sega Master System, SNES vs Genesis, Playstation vs N64 vs Saturn, PS2 vs GC vs DC vs XBOX, PS3 vs X360 vs Wii...
To be fair, I don't see anyone "celebrating" the possibility that the PS3 will eventually pass the Xbox in installed base. I think it is more that many of us are amazed given the lead time the 360 had and the numerous issues Sony had with the PS3 launch. Sony didn't really get it together, IMO, until the PS3 Slim launched.
I have all 3 systems (two 360s, 1 PS3, and 1 Wii) so I get to enjoy them all, but I am more angry with Microsoft because the hardware issues did bite me personally and I don't like how they handle XBL.
Few people pay that for XBL. I think the going rate is what, $40-$42? I used to pay $28 and even that was too much for what I was using it for -- the rare online game and Netflix. Netflix should NOT be a gold feature.
I don't see a huge difference, except for the fact that XBL has a chat system. I hear people say that XBL is better for online all the time, but I don't really see why.i agree, that is kinda whack that netflix requires xbl gold. i don't use netflix nor do i care about it so that has no effect on me.
im not sure what you are asking about the value of xbl. it's pretty obvious what the main value is - to play online. and xbl's integration and online play compared to psn is just night and day.
im not sure what you are asking about the value of xbl. it's pretty obvious what the main value is - to play online. and xbl's integration and online play compared to psn is just night and day.
xbl's integration and online play compared to psn is just night and day.
Looks like we are asking the same thing Beev. I have started to think that the party chat system is actually a bad thing when it comes to online gaming. I use it, but I have noticed that it seems like most people are using it too, which leads to less communication with team mates. Sure, it is nice to not listen to annoying people, but I think it may hinder gaming at times. And just to throw a jab in there, at least with PS+ you get discounts on new items and even get free games, on XBL you get discounts on games that are almost a year old.I see this mentioned a lot with no other details to back it up. I don't want to start an argument of PSN vs XBL, but what exactly does XBL do that makes the service "night and day" compared to the PSN? The chat lobbies everyone mentions? That means nothing to me, and iirc it's part of having PS+.
Back when MW2 was the game to play I played on both systems, and the services were 100% identical, yet everyone always raves about XBL. Why?
On a separate note, I absolutely can't stand the ads the 360 throws in your face every. god. damn. time you turn on the system. It disgusts me enough to not even use the system. (I mention this because I was going to use the system last night. So infuriating...)
Looks like we are asking the same thing Beev. I have started to think that the party chat system is actually a bad thing when it comes to online gaming. I use it, but I have noticed that it seems like most people are using it too, which leads to less communication with team mates. Sure, it is nice to not listen to annoying people, but I think it may hinder gaming at times. And just to throw a jab in there, at least with PS+ you get discounts on new items and even get free games, on XBL you get discounts on games that are almost a year old.
Try this on the PS3, when you turn on the system and see your friend playing MW3, open up a voice chat channel with him. To clarify, you are at the PS3 home screen and he is playing a game. Go ahead, let me know how that works out for you.
So that is worth $60 a year?Try this on the PS3, when you turn on the system and see your friend playing MW3, open up a voice chat channel with him. To clarify, you are at the PS3 home screen and he is playing a game. Go ahead, let me know how that works out for you.
Yes, PS+ members can cross game chat.This is what I meant when I said "chat lobbies." This feature is NOT game breaking. If it is, your (general you) priorities are way out of whack... Also, I don't have PS+, but can someone confirm if this is possible for two people who both have PS+? I know they touted some cross game voice chat thing, but it seriously means nothing to me so I don't know anything about it.
Really though, is that the only point for XBL anyone can name? Because it's seriously the only one I ever see, and that's sad.
So that is worth $60 a year?
Yes, PS+ members can cross game chat.
It's not $60 a year, but yes, it is VERY worth it. It's freakin' irritating finding a server to play on with a friend without voice chat. "Oh awesome, we're finally on a server so we can voice chat. Chat, chat, chat. Uh oh, the host left. Chat drops." Freakin' irritating!
This is what I meant when I said "chat lobbies." This feature is NOT game breaking. If it is, your (general you) priorities are way out of whack... Also, I don't have PS+, but can someone confirm if this is possible for two people who both have PS+? I know they touted some cross game voice chat thing, but it seriously means nothing to me so I don't know anything about it.
Really though, is that the only point for XBL anyone can name? Because it's seriously the only one I ever see, and that's sad.
Most games (like MW3) have a party lobby. If the host drops, you would be kicked to the party lobby and would still be able to talk to your friends. In fact, XBL users used to have to do this before party chat came around. And while you can find sales, the standard price is $60 a year, and all XBL gets over PSN is a party chat. It's not like match making is faster on XBL. It's all the same.It's not $60 a year, but yes, it is VERY worth it. It's freakin' irritating finding a server to play on with a friend without voice chat. "Oh awesome, we're finally on a server so we can voice chat. Chat, chat, chat. Uh oh, the host left. Chat drops." Freakin' irritating!
Couldn't you send a text message? I mean, holy shit, I need to be able to talk to them so we can agree on a game. I can't just send a text that says MW3 and he joins up with me. And MS never gets hacked. I mean no one has had a bunch of money spent on MS points recently or anything...XBL normally has better performance than PSN, but the main feature for me is the tight integration of voice chat and knowing you can voice chat with ANY of your friends online so you can agree on a game or server to play. When my friends are online, I can just open up a chat channel at ANY TIME and start talking to them. It is so refreshing compared to PSN it's not even funny. HOWEVER, if you don't play with friends online, I can see why you don't see any value in it. For me, it is HUGE and one of the biggest selling points of XBL. That and it's tighter security.
Not... really...
Load multiplayer menu for a game
Hit triangle
Hit X on the friend you want to game with
They accept
Profit
That's really that irritating? You're already loading multiplayer up anyway, so just hit 3 buttons and enjoy.
Couldn't you send a text message? I mean, holy shit, I need to be able to talk to them so we can agree on a game. I can't just send a text that says MW3 and he joins up with me. And MS never gets hacked. I mean no one has had a bunch of money spent on MS points recently or anything...
Edit: How does it have better performance? I hear this a lot, but no one can ever actually say how it does.
I see this mentioned a lot with no other details to back it up. I don't want to start an argument of PSN vs XBL, but what exactly does XBL do that makes the service "night and day" compared to the PSN? The chat lobbies everyone mentions? That means nothing to me, and iirc it's part of having PS+.
Back when MW2 was the game to play I played on both systems, and the services were 100% identical, yet everyone always raves about XBL. Why?
On a separate note, I absolutely can't stand the ads the 360 throws in your face every. god. damn. time you turn on the system. It disgusts me enough to not even use the system. (I mention this because I was going to use the system last night. So infuriating...)
I guess I am not understanding what you are saying here. Every game I play, before I even join a game, I send an invite to my friend and he joins. Now we are in a party and can figure out what game mode we want to play before we launch anything. I don't see how that makes it hard or anything. I enjoy the party chat function on my xbox, but that doesn't mean it performs better than PSN. You said it does, so I am wondering how it performs better? Give people some examples, instead of just saying it and hoping everyone believes you.Yes, really.
PSN: Let's say join a match and then the host leaves. Now you want to start another match, but you know you'll lose communication with your friend. But out of the blue, the game kicks you out of the lobby. Well, you want to switch up the type of game but you've lost communication with your friend and can't talk to him until you join a match. So you just join a match to open the communication up again.
Freakin' irritating. I should be able to open and KEEP open the communication channel with me friend until I decide I want to close the channel. Not after a match, not because I want to switch games, but when I say so.
Most games (like MW3) have a party lobby. If the host drops, you would be kicked to the party lobby and would still be able to talk to your friends. In fact, XBL users used to have to do this before party chat came around. And while you can find sales, the standard price is $60 a year, and all XBL gets over PSN is a party chat. It's not like match making is faster on XBL. It's all the same.
Not... really...
Load multiplayer menu for a game
Hit triangle
Hit X on the friend you want to game with
They accept
Profit
That's really that irritating? You're already loading multiplayer up anyway, so just hit 3 buttons and enjoy.