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KlokWyze

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PS4's are harder to find. I've got 1 PS4 and 1 Xbone sitting in my basement for resale. Probably just take the Xbone back lol..... I've got another xbox that I'm keeping for actual use though. Looks like it's going to be awhile before it sees use. No killer app for it.
 

Bman123

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My friend came over and played a little 2k14 and resogun tonight and now he's looking for a ps4.
 

cmdrdredd

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PS4's are harder to find. I've got 1 PS4 and 1 Xbone sitting in my basement for resale. Probably just take the Xbone back lol..... I've got another xbox that I'm keeping for actual use though. Looks like it's going to be awhile before it sees use. No killer app for it.

People keep saying "killer app" as if any system ever in history had a game at launch that every single person in the world had to buy it for. That's never happened. Before someone yells about Mario let me just say that there are people who genuinly do not like platformers and may even hate mario games entirely.

There's a bunch of solid titles for both the PS4 and XB1 and I don't see how anyone can say differently at all. There's games from nearly every genre. The only thing I can see at all is if someone was only going to play the games that are on both, but Forza, Ryse, Killer Instinct, and Dead Rising 3 are very good games that were reviewed harshly by the mainstream so called "professional reviewers" IMO. Same with Knack for that matter.
 
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007ELmO

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Mario 64, case closed. Still GOAT.

None of the titles you listed make you want to buy a console. We all figured out what games to get AFTER we got the console. Please, nobody is saying damn I need an X1 for Ryse (lawl?). Oh snap, we've never seen Forza, Assassin's creed, COD, BF4 before...

The games will be coming, but not this year.

Kingdom hearts 3 and FF15 - those are worthy of console purchase.
 
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Sulaco

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People keep saying "killer app" as if any system ever in history had a game at launch that every single person in the world had to buy it for. That's never happened. Before someone yells about Mario let me just say that there are people who genuinly do not like platformers and may even hate mario games entirely.

There's a bunch of solid titles for both the PS4 and XB1 and I don't see how anyone can say differently at all. There's games from nearly every genre. The only thing I can see at all is if someone was only going to play the games that are on both, but Forza, Ryse, Killer Instinct, and Dead Rising 3 are very good games that were reviewed harshly by the mainstream so called "professional reviewers" IMO. Same with Knack for that matter.

The fact that you put Ryse as "very good" just goes to show how far the bar has fallen. It's barely passable, even as a launch title.

It's also disingenuous at best to argue the value of a "killer app" as meaning a game that 'every single person in the world had to buy'. That's never, ever been the definition, nor is it ever the expectation. But to deny the importance or significance of one is just foolishness.
Obviously there will be people who don't care for even the best of the best of games. The difference is, those people are in the vast, vast minority , especially in cases like Mario.
The consoles will sell for a myriad of reasons in spite of their libraries right now. Let's not delude ourselves though about the strength of the software. That will come in time.
 
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Doppel

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Mario 64, case closed. Still GOAT.
Well, not for me, not even close. Further to cmdrdredd's point, some people don't like platformers. I did as a kid, but have played very few in, oh, almost 20 years now. I played M64 and frankly didn't like the way it had transitioned to 3D. GOAT for me is Ultima Online. Best game I've played in the last decade is probably Fallout 3.

Anyway, I think the games on the XB1/PS4 right now are very weak. This is really no different than any other generation, though. I have one because, dagum it, I just wanted one, and the prices aren't going to go down any time soon anyway.

When I got a PS2 I got midnight club. In retrospect it was not a great game. Although the good PS4 games now are cross-gen, we still have AC4, BF4, Ghosts, etc. these are AAA titles--more I think than any other generation has ever had at launch. They are not gen-exclusive, though, which is why they aren't as pretty as they ought to be (but the fact they aren't gen-exclusive is also why they exist to begin with).
 

cmdrdredd

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The fact that you put Ryse as "very good" just goes to show how far the bar has fallen. It's barely passable, even as a launch title.

It's also disingenuous at best to argue the value of a "killer app" as meaning a game that 'every single person in the world had to buy'. That's never, ever been the definition, nor is it ever the expectation. But to deny the importance or significance of one is just foolishness.
Obviously there will be people who don't care for even the best of the best of games. The difference is, those people are in the vast, vast minority , especially in cases like Mario.
The consoles will sell for a myriad of reasons in spite of their libraries right now. Let's not delude ourselves though about the strength of the software. That will come in time.

Have you played it? I'm thinking you haven't. Every single person I've seen who has played it that isn't paid to give their opinion on a website and generate page hits has enjoyed it and said it is a very good game. Myself included.

Mario 64, case closed. Still GOAT.

None of the titles you listed make you want to buy a console. We all figured out what games to get AFTER we got the console. Please, nobody is saying damn I need an X1 for Ryse (lawl?). Oh snap, we've never seen Forza, Assassin's creed, COD, BF4 before...

The games will be coming, but not this year.

Kingdom hearts 3 and FF15 - those are worthy of console purchase.

I bought the XB1 for Killer Instinct and Forza 5 yes because they are both games I'll play for 100s of hours. I bought my PS4 for Killzone and multiplatform games that would be a little bit better than the XB1 version. Turns out Killzone wasn't as good as reviews stated and Ryse and Knack are better than reviews stated. I knew for months what games I was interested in and probably going to buy on the two consoles. With the internet these days you have near daily updates on these games. Screenshots, videos, previews, new info etc. Heck I think Destiny has had 4 different trailers in 2 months and that game won't be out until April I believe. You'd have been better off saying "you didn't buy the console to play those games." because a blanket statement about how I determine video game purchases doesn't work. I did indeed buy the system because of certain titles. Also note that there will be a good number of people who think Final Fantasy is dead, so another blanket statement doesn't fit here either. What about people who don't like JRPG games?

Mario 64 isn't even close to the best game ever. Not even for a launch game to me. When it released I did not care about it at all and in many ways I still don't. I didn't buy an N64 until it had Ocarina of Time at which point I played Mario 64 just because there was nothing else I cared about. Plus by the time Ocarina of Time released on N64 I had already finished Metal Gear solid on PS1 which set a new bar for me in story telling and creating an experience.

For someone interested in an XB1 or PS4 who also liked shooters, playing BF4 with 64players which is on par with the gameplay experience on the PC is not to be missed. When the game works It's fantastic, but DICE/EA has numerous issues with this title which sullies the enjoyment just a bit. Many of the same titles someone might get for a 360 or PS3 also come to XB1 and PS4 (Cod, Madden, NBA, AC, NFS, BF) with an overall better experience. So yes there are plenty of valid reasons someone would buy one or the other or even both to play the exclusives which are actually good games despite a number plastered on a website to get clicks.
 
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Arkaign

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That's all true, though I think it's also valid to just skip both consoles for now unless those games are 'must plays' for the person in question. I've played everything out, and I prefer BF4 on PC by a huge margin, the only PS4/XB1 game that I really liked was NBA 2K14, but not enough to buy a PS4 or XB1 just yet.

I'll probably buy a WiiU with the next price drop (I do love the best Nintendo franchises), and might consider a PS4 next fall/winter. I deal with Microsoft so much during my course of business that I am probably never going to buy a piece of MS hardware unless I'm given one for free. I do like the Surface Pro 2 though, that is exceedingly well done.

As usual YMMV, there really isn't a wrong opinion as long as you don't try to make statements for other people.

"X is the best game/console" is absolute and complete BS.
"X is the best game/console IMHO" is fine.
 

Majcric

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The Wal-Mart in my area had 3 PS4's in stock, but I just couldn't pull the trigger. There is nothing on the system I really want at the moment.
 

mizzou

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just picked one up at gamestop

apparently they still have several unsold xbones
 

HeXen

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Seen quite a few xbones in stores, no ps4's but I havn't been looking.
 

Rage187

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Saw a ps4 for the first time inside a walmart. I see xboxones 90% when I look, but seeing a ps4 after launch day was surprising.
 

Bman123

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NBA 2k14 is a huge difference in graphics and gameplay compared to the ps3 version. Resogun is a great game that's free with ps+ there are games to play for each system.
 
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