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Red Storm

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iPhone: expensive, restricted
Android: cheap, glitchy

Except as has been said, it's not like that.

The Note 2 is neither cheap nor glitchy, nor are the other flagships. If you're comparing the iPhone 5 to the cheapest of the low end Android phones then sure, but what kind of honest comparison is that?
 

CVSiN

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Well first off he needs root it. Then he needs to look up the latest stable CM ROM. Then you gotta try this one app that can stream music. If that doesnt work then there is this other app that might work. But make sure you type in the name exactly right or you might get a malware infested fake version that wont work at all. After a couple hours of trial and error, he might be able to get it to work. Then it will break for no reason about two months down the line.

Rinse, wash, repeat.

id say your views are quite antiquated.
ICS and JB provide all of those features built in ( at least on samsung)
and i have never once heard of anyone getting malware off the market.
not once.. sure they pull a pirated free version from elsewhere that is possible.

and as for breaking? quit using the ghetto phones and get a super high end android with JB.
 

CVSiN

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Except as has been said, it's not like that.

The Note 2 is neither cheap nor glitchy, nor are the other flagships. If you're comparing the iPhone 5 to the cheapest of the low end Android phones then sure, but what kind of honest comparison is that?

+9000
 

phucheneh

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Except as has been said, it's not like that.

The Note 2 is neither cheap nor glitchy, nor are the other flagships. If you're comparing the iPhone 5 to the cheapest of the low end Android phones then sure, but what kind of honest comparison is that?

A generic one. Because that's all that can really be made. You realize I hate Apple, prefer Android, and experience no glitches on my cheapass phone, right?

It doesn't mean that 99% of Android phones aren't terribly inefficient and somewhat unstable right out of the box. Much like a Windows PC, which I also strongly prefer to a Mac.

Fanboys who don't know that they're fanboys are the worst type.
 

phucheneh

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Wait, this is ATOT. What I meant to say is:

SUCK MY COCK, POOR PEOPLE. YOU'RE ALL JUST JEALOUS.

 

Red Storm

Lifer
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It doesn't mean that 99% of Android phones aren't terribly inefficient and somewhat unstable right out of the box.

Link? I assume you have some kind of proof to back up what you're saying?

Fact: You can get an iPhone for free or up to ~$200 on contract. You can get an Android phone free or up to ~$200 on contract.
 

CVSiN

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A generic one. Because that's all that can really be made. You realize I hate Apple, prefer Android, and experience no glitches on my cheapass phone, right?

It doesn't mean that 99% of Android phones aren't terribly inefficient and somewhat unstable right out of the box. Much like a Windows PC, which I also strongly prefer to a Mac.

Fanboys who don't know that they're fanboys are the worst type.

unstable? what forking crack are you smoking?

and inefficient?
you obviously have not used a high end Exyonos or Tegra3 powered phone/tablet..
they blaze.
 

phucheneh

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Link? I assume you have some kind of proof to back up what you're saying?

Fact: You can get an iPhone for free or up to ~$200 on contract. You can get an Android phone free or up to ~$200 on contract.

So, basically, your argument is not only that Android has no weaknesses, but that everyone elses' arguments for its strengths are wrong?

Obviously, your biggest concern is being able to tell your friends that your Android phone costed you just as much as their iPhone. Aren't you a real winner...
 

cheezy321

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id say your views are quite antiquated.
ICS and JB provide all of those features built in ( at least on samsung)
and i have never once heard of anyone getting malware off the market.
not once.. sure they pull a pirated free version from elsewhere that is possible.

and as for breaking? quit using the ghetto phones and get a super high end android with JB.

And here you are saying things that fandroids have said since the dawn of the operating system.

'Things are better now! I swear! Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb/ICS/Jellybean has fixed those problems!'
'Nobody I know has had that problem. Must be your fault'
'Did I say its your fault yet? Oh I did? Well let me say it again, anything wrong with an android phone is your fault'
'You need to buy a better phone. Get this one instead'. As if thats a valid response for issues with a phone!
 

Red Storm

Lifer
Oct 2, 2005
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So, basically, your argument is not only that Android has no weaknesses, but that everyone elses' arguments for its strengths are wrong?

Obviously, your biggest concern is being able to tell your friends that your Android phone costed you just as much as their iPhone. Aren't you a real winner...

Uh...?

I am talking about you trying to pass off Android as "cheap, glitchy" and iPhones as "expensive, restricted" as if that's some kind of fact, when it's not. Simple as that. You then said 99% are glitchy, so I'm asking for proof.
 

cheezy321

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Link? I assume you have some kind of proof to back up what you're saying?

Fact: You can get an iPhone for free or up to ~$200 on contract. You can get an Android phone free or up to ~$200 on contract.

Actually the iPhone goes up to $400 on contract.
 

CVSiN

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Uh...?

I am talking about you trying to pass off Android as "cheap, glitchy" and iPhones as "expensive, restricted" as if that's some kind of fact, when it's not. Simple as that. You then said 99% are glitchy, so I'm asking for proof.

apparently Cheezypoofs here is his proof..

the funny thing is.. the same site they got this story from also gave the GS3 and Note2 better reviews than the IP5.
but then again so did everyone.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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And here you are saying things that fandroids have said since the dawn of the operating system.

'Things are better now! I swear! Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb/ICS/Jellybean has fixed those problems!'
'Nobody I know has had that problem. Must be your fault'
'Did I say its your fault yet? Oh I did? Well let me say it again, anything wrong with an android phone is your fault'
'You need to buy a better phone. Get this one instead'. As if thats a valid response for issues with a phone!

You do realise people say exactly the same thing about iphones?

Things are so much smoother now, the iphone4 was so slow.
Nobody I know has that problem, you're doing it the wrong way.
You're holding it wrong.
You need to get the iphone4/4s/5 its so much better.
 

phucheneh

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Uh...?

I am talking about you trying to pass off Android as "cheap, glitchy" and iPhones as "expensive, restricted" as if that's some kind of fact, when it's not. Simple as that. You then said 99% are glitchy, so I'm asking for proof.

Sorry; you're just getting really defensive, which in turn makes me really defensive. Which in turn makes me frustrated, 'cause I'm trying to take up the neutral position. I wasn't attacking your personal choice of phone, ya know?

I don't have any 'studies' or anything to show you. I'm simply going off of a wide variety of experience, general industry opinion, ect.

It's already been stated in this thread; if it wasn't by me, some others surely have chimed in...but the gist of it is:

Android is a universal OS loaded on to various models of phone made by various manufacturers utilizing tons of different hardware configurations. It is simply going to be in its nature that there will be more problems than with a manufacturer who is making their own OS for what is essentially a complete line of...one device.

That is in no way a statement that Apple is superior. Again; I fucking hate Apple with a passion that I must restrain on these forums. But I acknowledge the fundamental advantages of their products, little as they personally mean to me.

These high-end, lightning fast Android phones are (IMO) basically overpowered. They're using oodles of processing power, tons of RAM, and big batteries to overcome inefficiency. Yes, some manufacturers are doing much better at ironing the kinks out of their phones, but they can only account for the OEM software. Installing other apps that are, again, not programmed for one simplified platform, increases the probability of issues. Heck, software installed by cell carriers can often cause problems.

These are not attacks on [insert Android product of choice]. They are the inevitabilities of an open platform.
 

cheezy321

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You do realise people say exactly the same thing about iphones?

Things are so much smoother now, the iphone4 was so slow.
Nobody I know has that problem, you're doing it the wrong way.
You're holding it wrong.
You need to get the iphone4/4s/5 its so much better.

Wow! A post from you with content?! OMG this is a big step! Good work!

-Yes, people say the iPhone 4 is slow now. Nobody ever claimed the iPhone 4 was slow when it came out. I could get my gtab to stutter right out of the box. Same with my Droid X. Same with the S3 at the store. Android has a slow/stuttering issue or else there would have never been a 'project butter'.
- Doing what the wrong way? Please elaborate...
- This is about as relevant as me bringing up the fact that the droid incredible has a 4 hour battery life
-A lot of people are still perfectly happy with the iPhone 4S. There are lots of people that would trade in their brand new S3 for a year and a half old iPhone. and they would add CASH on top of it! Seriously, I got 5 responses on craigslist asking for a trade, I was floored. Apple phones age like wine. Android phones age like milk. Android phones are worth absolutely nothing in the reseller market (S3's going for ~$300 on craigslist already) and they are unusable after a couple years. I could probably go back to an iPhone 4. It would be painful, but at least it would last an entire day and wouldn't be too slow. There is no way in hell I would ever use a droid X right now. You couldn't pay me to use that phone again.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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You do realise people say exactly the same thing about iphones?

Things are so much smoother now, the iphone4 was so slow.
Nobody I know has that problem, you're doing it the wrong way.
You're holding it wrong.
You need to get the iphone4/4s/5 its so much better.

You forgot, "We finally have multi tasking now!!!"
"Oh nice, we finally have navigation!!!"
"Oh sweet, we can finally sync without connecting to our computer!!!"
"My iPhone finally has a screen size that was top of the line three years ago!!!"
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Wow! A post from you with content?! OMG this is a big step! Good work!

-Yes, people say the iPhone 4 is slow now. Nobody ever claimed the iPhone 4 was slow when it came out. I could get my gtab to stutter right out of the box. Same with my Droid X. Same with the S3 at the store. Android has a slow/stuttering issue or else there would have never been a 'project butter'.
- Doing what the wrong way? Please elaborate...
- This is about as relevant as me bringing up the fact that the droid incredible has a 4 hour battery life
-A lot of people are still perfectly happy with the iPhone 4S. There are lots of people that would trade in their brand new S3 for a year and a half old iPhone. and they would add CASH on top of it! Seriously, I got 5 responses on craigslist asking for a trade, I was floored. Apple phones age like wine. Android phones age like milk. Android phones are worth absolutely nothing in the reseller market (S3's going for ~$300 on craigslist already) and they are unusable after a couple years. I could probably go back to an iPhone 4. It would be painful, but at least it would last an entire day and wouldn't be too slow. There is no way in hell I would ever use a droid X right now. You couldn't pay me to use that phone again.

Lol, you really are on a crusade aren't you?

What exactly is your point? That iphones are superior for everyone and that everyone should use them?

Ok you don't like Android. That fine. Don't use it then. I don't particularly like ios that's why I don't use it.

Difference is that I don't bang on about all the things that iphones are crap at like you do about android.
 

cheezy321

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Lol, you really are on a crusade aren't you?

What exactly is your point? That iphones are superior for everyone and that everyone should use them?

Ok you don't like Android. That fine. Don't use it then. I don't particularly like ios that's why I don't use it.

Difference is that I don't bang on about all the things that iphones are crap at like you do about android.

No the difference is you have never used iOS as your main device yet you rail on it all the time. Its a common theme among the fandroids and you are one of thousands of them.
 

cheezy321

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You forgot, "We finally have multi tasking now!!!"
"Oh nice, we finally have navigation!!!"
"Oh sweet, we can finally sync without connecting to our computer!!!"
"My iPhone finally has a screen size that was top of the line three years ago!!!"

yet android still cant do simple things like create a full backup of your phone (texts, apps, everything) and store it in the cloud.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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No the difference is you have never used iOS as your main device yet you rail on it all the time. Its a common theme among the fandroids and you are one of thousands of them.

I don't rail on ios at all. The only thing that I don't like about apple is their legal shenanigans but I'm not keen on anyone else's either. Every thing else about them doesn't bother me as I don't have to use them.

You however seem to comment more about android devices than ios ones.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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yet android still cant do simple things like create a full backup of your phone (texts, apps, everything) and store it in the cloud.

Samsung phones back up all your texts and apps I can't speak for other brands as I don't use them.
 

phucheneh

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yet android still cant do simple things like create a full backup of your phone (texts, apps, everything) and store it in the cloud.

LOL @ 'the cloud.'

It's called 'the internet.' Or more specifically, 'servers.' You don't help your case with marketing buzzwords.

And it's odd that you say that, since I have backups of everything on my PC (does not require rooting). I could easily upload them to 'cloud storage' if I wanted to.

You're failing to realize that 'pay a premium for out of box automation of' is not the same as 'does something that Android can't'.

Once again: Two totally different approaches for two totally different mindsets here. Needing to assert the superiority of your phone does nothing but imply the inferiority of your mind.
 

cheezy321

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LOL @ 'the cloud.'

It's called 'the internet.' Or more specifically, 'servers.' You don't help your case with marketing buzzwords.

And it's odd that you say that, since I have backups of everything on my PC (does not require rooting). I could easily upload them to 'cloud storage' if I wanted to.

You're failing to realize that 'pay a premium for out of box automation of' is not the same as 'does something that Android can't'.

Once again: Two totally different approaches for two totally different mindsets here. Needing to assert the superiority of your phone does nothing but imply the inferiority of your mind.

OMG I USED A MARKETING BUZZWORD. THAT MUST MEAN IM TEH DUMBZ. No wonder people don't listen to nerds like you.

I never paid a dime for my backup to the cloud. Sorry to break it to you. and I had to set it up once and it automagically does it every night. Synergy I tell you, synergy! How bout you circle back with me when you can do that mmmmkay?

Last time I checked there is still no service that will back up your android phone in its entirety every single night to the cloud. What service are you speaking of?
 
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