PSA: Beware of speed traps in podunk towns Lanagan, Goodman and Noel Missouri - Oklahoma speed traps re-instated

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Actually I did have my camera with us but I only remembered it after he went back to his crusier. I had the camera rolling when he came back to the car and I asked him to repeat if he had a small city hall or if it was County. It is a City Hall somewhere in the small town. I told him I will see him at his little courthouse.

Awesome. Maybe Boss Hog will be there next to Judge Wapner.

Just heard from some locals about those towns and these traps. Supposedly there are bars on the river (didn't see them) and they harass people as they pull out. He must have saw my out of state plate.

 

[Sukhoi]

Yeah I hate living in central Kentucky with Ohio plates; I'm always worried about stuff like that. Kentucky doesn't use front plates but Ohio does so I stick out like a red flag.

 

[PokerGuy]

I'd bet that's pretty common in thousands of little towns just like that around the country. Hell, in Columbus (OH), there was a little 'town' (population 40 or so) kind of in the middle of the rest of the city that ran all sorts of scams for years, bilking innocent drivers out of all sorts of money that went directly into the pocket of the mayor and his cohorts. The 'town' finally got disbanded a couple of years ago.

It sucks, but with more and more places having cameras etc in the car, it's going to get a little harder for them to do since they can't just willy nilly claim you violated all sorts of laws -- the cameras prove otherwise.

 

[dr150]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
PSA: Beware of speedtrap in Podunk town Lanagan, Missouri

Speed limit is 35 through tiny town, cop sits behind curve and pulls out of state drivers over and writes you up for way more than you are driving to pay his salary.

Also tries to write you up for no seat belt even when you have it on.

Update: Locals also warm about same situation of a town to the north and town to the south.

Goodman is just north of Anderson and is said to be even worse.

Noel is town to the south with a strip of bars on the river.

Sounds like me.

I was an out-of-stater in my German automobile going through a podunk hole-in-the-Earth Oregon town. I get pulled over by a really fat sheriff in his Bronco doing "42" in a 35 (there was no mph signs in the "town" which took all of 35 seconds to pass through). I get a $150 ticket. Just last week, I got my renewable auto insurance quote. It went up by $220 for the next 6 month term.

Right now, by re-shopping auto insurers, my rate will still go up by $110!! (best case scenario)

LIFE IS GOOD. :disgust:


Lesson learned.....if you go through a small town, pay attention to the speed.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: KillerCharlie

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
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Sorry, that's not funny anymore.

who the hell are you?

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Maybe the unmarked black helicopters had their radar guns trained on you.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: KillerCharlie

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
THIS SPACE FOR RENT! CONTACT FOR RATES!

Sorry, that's not funny anymore.

who the hell are you?

lol

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: dr150

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
PSA: Beware of speedtrap in Podunk town Lanagan, Missouri

Speed limit is 35 through tiny town, cop sits behind curve and pulls out of state drivers over and writes you up for way more than you are driving to pay his salary.

Also tries to write you up for no seat belt even when you have it on.

Update: Locals also warm about same situation of a town to the north and town to the south.

Goodman is just north of Anderson and is said to be even worse.

Noel is town to the south with a strip of bars on the river.

Sounds like me.

I was an out-of-stater in my German automobile going through a podunk hole-in-the-Earth Oregon town. I get pulled over by a really fat sheriff in his Bronco doing "42" in a 35 (there was no mph signs in the "town" which took all of 35 seconds to pass through). I get a $150 ticket. Just last week, I got my renewable auto insurance quote. It went up by $220 for the next 6 month term.

Right now, by re-shopping auto insurers, my rate will still go up by $110!! (best case scenario)

LIFE IS GOOD. :disgust:


Lesson learned.....if you go through a small town, pay attention to the speed.

This probably wraps small town driving up. :laugh:

 

[CorCentral]

Slow the F*** down, Do the F***'* speed limit and you will never have to worry about it!

You people that try to contest the tickets you get are IDIOTS. YOU WERE SPEEDING! PAY UP !!!!

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Slow the F*** down, Do the F***'* speed limit and you will never have to worry about it!

You people that try to contest the tickets you get are IDIOTS. YOU WERE SPEEDING! PAY UP !!!!

Congratulations, you're the early leader in the "most stupid post of the week" running! Fame and fortune could await you. God I hope you never end up in any position of authority. Who needs trials and all that nonsense? Clearly, anyone that's been charged is guilty!:roll:

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Slow the F*** down, Do the F***'* speed limit and you will never have to worry about it!

You people that try to contest the tickets you get are IDIOTS. YOU WERE SPEEDING! PAY UP !!!!

Valkenheiser, is that you? :laugh:

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Slow the F*** down, Do the F***'* speed limit and you will never have to worry about it!

You people that try to contest the tickets you get are IDIOTS. YOU WERE SPEEDING! PAY UP !!!!

Valkenheiser, is that you? :laugh:

It's as easy as that. Slow Down or shut the hell up!

 

[dmcowen674]

Looks like this town is in violation of Missouri Law: 4.010

302.341. Moving traffic violation, failure to prepay fine or appear in court, license suspended, procedure ? reinstatement

when ? excessive revenue from fines to be distributed to schools.

. . . If any city, town or village receives more than forty-five percent of its total annual revenue from fines for

traffic violations occurring on state highways, all revenues from such violations in excess of forty-five percent of the

total annual revenue of the city, town or village shall be sent to the director of the department of revenue and shall be

distributed annually to the schools of the county in the same manner that proceeds of all penalties, forfeitures and fines

collected for any breach of the penal laws of the state are distributed.

4.010.Definitions
4. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 304.120 or any other provision of law to the contrary, cities, towns and

villages may regulate the speed of vehicles on state roads and highways within such cities?, towns? or villages? corporate

limits by ordinance with the approval of the state highways and transportation commission.

Any reduction of speed in cities, towns or villages shall be designed to expedite the flow of traffic on such state roads and highways to the extend consistent with public safety.

The commission may declare any ordinance void if it finds that such ordinance is:

(1) Not primarily designed to expedite traffic flow; and

(2) Primarily designed to produce revenue for the city, town or village which enacted such ordinance.

If an ordinance is declared void, the city, town or village shall have any future proposed ordinance approved by the highways and transportation commission before such ordinance may take effect.

I will file for a Freedom of Information act request Monday for them to provide how much revenue they are generating from traffic stops and ask for the engineering study showing the justification at that point on the road for an officer to be hiding there in the interest of "public safety".

 

[CorCentral]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Slow the F*** down, Do the F***'* speed limit and you will never have to worry about it!

You people that try to contest the tickets you get are IDIOTS. YOU WERE SPEEDING! PAY UP !!!!

Congratulations, you're the early leader in the "most stupid post of the week" running! Fame and fortune could await you. God I hope you never end up in any position of authority. Who needs trials and all that nonsense? Clearly, anyone that's been charged is guilty!:roll:

**bows** Thanks. Only an idiot would disagree with with me............. NEXT **LOL**
Hey, one opinion to another ya' numbnut.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Looks like this town is in violation of Missouri Law: 4.010

302.341. Moving traffic violation, failure to prepay fine or appear in court, license suspended, procedure ? reinstatement

when ? excessive revenue from fines to be distributed to schools.

. . . If any city, town or village receives more than forty-five percent of its total annual revenue from fines for

traffic violations occurring on state highways, all revenues from such violations in excess of forty-five percent of the

total annual revenue of the city, town or village shall be sent to the director of the department of revenue and shall be

distributed annually to the schools of the county in the same manner that proceeds of all penalties, forfeitures and fines

collected for any breach of the penal laws of the state are distributed.

4.010.Definitions
4. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 304.120 or any other provision of law to the contrary, cities, towns and

villages may regulate the speed of vehicles on state roads and highways within such cities?, towns? or villages? corporate

limits by ordinance with the approval of the state highways and transportation commission.

Any reduction of speed in cities, towns or villages shall be designed to expedite the flow of traffic on such state roads and highways to the extend consistent with public safety.

The commission may declare any ordinance void if it finds that such ordinance is:

(1) Not primarily designed to expedite traffic flow; and

(2) Primarily designed to produce revenue for the city, town or village which enacted such ordinance.

If an ordinance is declared void, the city, town or village shall have any future proposed ordinance approved by the highways and transportation commission before such ordinance may take effect.

I will file for a Freedom of Information act request Monday for them to provide how much revenue they are generating from traffic stops and ask for the engineering study showing the justification at that point on the road for an officer to be hiding there in the interest of "public safety".

Would you actually have to file an FOIA request for that? Wouldn't it be listed in the budget?

FOIA is for Federal agencies anyway, though states have their own equivalent measures I believe.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Looks like this town is in violation of Missouri Law: 4.010

302.341. Moving traffic violation, failure to prepay fine or appear in court, license suspended, procedure ? reinstatement

when ? excessive revenue from fines to be distributed to schools.

. . . If any city, town or village receives more than forty-five percent of its total annual revenue from fines for

traffic violations occurring on state highways, all revenues from such violations in excess of forty-five percent of the

total annual revenue of the city, town or village shall be sent to the director of the department of revenue and shall be

distributed annually to the schools of the county in the same manner that proceeds of all penalties, forfeitures and fines

collected for any breach of the penal laws of the state are distributed.

4.010.Definitions
4. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 304.120 or any other provision of law to the contrary, cities, towns and

villages may regulate the speed of vehicles on state roads and highways within such cities?, towns? or villages? corporate

limits by ordinance with the approval of the state highways and transportation commission.

Any reduction of speed in cities, towns or villages shall be designed to expedite the flow of traffic on such state roads and highways to the extend consistent with public safety.

The commission may declare any ordinance void if it finds that such ordinance is:

(1) Not primarily designed to expedite traffic flow; and

(2) Primarily designed to produce revenue for the city, town or village which enacted such ordinance.

If an ordinance is declared void, the city, town or village shall have any future proposed ordinance approved by the highways and transportation commission before such ordinance may take effect.

I will file for a Freedom of Information act request Monday for them to provide how much revenue they are generating from traffic stops and ask for the engineering study showing the justification at that point on the road for an officer to be hiding there in the interest of "public safety".

Would you actually have to file an FOIA request for that? Wouldn't it be listed in the budget?

FOIA is for Federal agencies anyway, though states have their own equivalent measures I believe.

There is a Missouri version of FOIA I just downloaded.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Looks like this town is in violation of Missouri Law: 4.010

302.341. Moving traffic violation, failure to prepay fine or appear in court, license suspended, procedure ? reinstatement

when ? excessive revenue from fines to be distributed to schools.

. . . If any city, town or village receives more than forty-five percent of its total annual revenue from fines for

traffic violations occurring on state highways, all revenues from such violations in excess of forty-five percent of the

total annual revenue of the city, town or village shall be sent to the director of the department of revenue and shall be

distributed annually to the schools of the county in the same manner that proceeds of all penalties, forfeitures and fines

collected for any breach of the penal laws of the state are distributed.

4.010.Definitions
4. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 304.120 or any other provision of law to the contrary, cities, towns and

villages may regulate the speed of vehicles on state roads and highways within such cities?, towns? or villages? corporate

limits by ordinance with the approval of the state highways and transportation commission.

Any reduction of speed in cities, towns or villages shall be designed to expedite the flow of traffic on such state roads and highways to the extend consistent with public safety.

The commission may declare any ordinance void if it finds that such ordinance is:

(1) Not primarily designed to expedite traffic flow; and

(2) Primarily designed to produce revenue for the city, town or village which enacted such ordinance.

If an ordinance is declared void, the city, town or village shall have any future proposed ordinance approved by the highways and transportation commission before such ordinance may take effect.

I will file for a Freedom of Information act request Monday for them to provide how much revenue they are generating from traffic stops and ask for the engineering study showing the justification at that point on the road for an officer to be hiding there in the interest of "public safety".

Would you actually have to file an FOIA request for that? Wouldn't it be listed in the budget?

FOIA is for Federal agencies anyway, though states have their own equivalent measures I believe.

There is a Missouri version of FOIA I just downloaded.

Mack's Creek, MO got nailed a few years back. It would be nice if some citizens would stand up to these podunk town "revenue generation" speed traps.

 

[JBarr]

Four guys are driving cross-country: one is from Maine, one is from Vermont, one from New Hampshire, and one is dmcowen674.

A while down the road, the man from Maine starts to pull potatoes from his bag and throw them out the window. The man from New Hampshire turns to him and asks, "What the hell are you doing?"

The man from Maine says, "Man, we have so many of these damned things laying around on the ground. I'm sick of looking at them."

A few miles down the road, the man from Vermont begins pulling bottles of maple syrup from his bag and proceeds to throw them out the window. The man from New Hampshire asks, "What are you doing that for?"

The man from Vermont replies, "Man, we have so many of these damned things in Vermont, and I'm sick of looking at them."

Inspired by the others, the man from New Hampshire opens the car door and pushes dmcowen674 out.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JBarr
Four guys are driving cross-country: one is from Maine, one is from Vermont, one from New Hampshire, and one is dmcowen674.

A while down the road, the man from Maine starts to pull potatoes from his bag and throw them out the window. The man from New Hampshire turns to him and asks, "What the hell are you doing?"

The man from Maine says, "Man, we have so many of these damned things laying around on the ground. I'm sick of looking at them."

A few miles down the road, the man from Vermont begins pulling bottles of maple syrup from his bag and proceeds to throw them out the window. The man from New Hampshire asks, "What are you doing that for?"

The man from Vermont replies, "Man, we have so many of these damned things in Vermont, and I'm sick of looking at them."

Inspired by the others, the man from New Hampshire opens the car door and pushes dmcowen674 out.

There's lots of me? :laugh:

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Slow the F*** down, Do the F***'* speed limit and you will never have to worry about it!

You people that try to contest the tickets you get are IDIOTS. YOU WERE SPEEDING! PAY UP !!!!

When I was younger and I had my red 1986 300ZX Turbo, I was given a speeding ticket while sitting stationary in rush-hour traffic. The cop said, "I saw you fly around that bend!". I asked to see the radar readout and he told me to "shut the fvck up".

If I knew then what I knew now, he'd be out of a job, and probably be in jail for abusing his power.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Slow the F*** down, Do the F***'* speed limit and you will never have to worry about it!

You people that try to contest the tickets you get are IDIOTS. YOU WERE SPEEDING! PAY UP !!!!

When I was younger and I had my red 1986 300ZX Turbo, I was given a speeding ticket while sitting stationary in rush-hour traffic. The cop said, "I saw you fly around that bend!". I asked to see the radar readout and he told me to "shut the fvck up".

If I knew then what I knew now, he'd be out of a job, and probably be in jail for abusing his power.

Interesting you mention red.

There was a red pick up directly in front of me but it was a local Missouri plate so he didn't go after him.

The red caught his attention and then there was this mini-van from out of town.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: CorCentral

**bows** Thanks. Only an idiot would disagree with with me............. NEXT **LOL**
Hey, one opinion to another ya' numbnut.

Are there any lawyers on the planet that you're from? Or is everyone in a position of authority completely noble, honest, and 100% right?

 

[dmcowen674]

Updated with a link.

Will put up more pics as well as details for the other two nearby twns with speed traps.

Lanagan Speed Trap

 

[Imported]

I think the next time I try and drive through a small town, I'll have a hidden camera mounted in the car to catch these abusive cops. Maybe have it fixed onto the speedometer and window.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Imported
I think the next time I try and drive through a small town, I'll have a hidden camera mounted in the car to catch these abusive cops. Maybe have it fixed onto the speedometer and window.

I added pics of the trap area.

I added Video but it was when he handed me the ticket.

Also added video of when he was blind as a bat not seeing we all had seat belts on.