PSA: Check neglected devices that have batteries in them.

Red Squirrel

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I replaced my wireless doorbell system with a wired one years ago, never took down the wireless units. It occured to me today that I should probably take them down, and yeah, let's just say these batteries have been sitting for a bit.
 
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I just went through this scene, I'll explain. I bought a dehumidifier (in the midst of the rainiest winter here maybe since The Gold Rush!). So, this thing is chugin' 1/2 the time. I also have not yet installed any kind of central heating.

In an effort to determine my house's conditions I've accumulated an assortment of thermometer/hygrometers. Some are just thermometers. In accordance with the maxim "a man with a watch knows what time it is, a man with two watches is never sure" I've always wondered which if any of my thermometers is accurate. Same now with the hygrometers.

So, I found a deal on ebay being 5 Acurite 01083M thermometer/hygrometers. The manufacturer recommends using high quality AAA's in them (a pair). I have tended to use rechargeable Eneloops because they are cheaper in the long run and won't leak and ruin your devices.

The Acurite's support calibration, but when you change batteries you have to recalibrate. If I keep records I can recalibrate without difficulty, but the question remains did the device change?

Well, since the manufacturer seems insistent on high quality alkalines I shopped them last week. Some of the better ones say they are leak resistant or leak proof. They claim they have a stainless steel jacket integrated into the design that prevents the leakage of sulphates. Then there are lithium AAA's, but chargeable and otherwise. I haven't investigated the rechargeable lithium AAA's figure they're probably even more expensive than the non-rechargeables. Lithium AAAs are said to be leak proof because of the chemistry, they don't build up internal pressure like the alkalines, a big plus, I figure. They aren't cheap but I only need 10 for the Acurites and I ordered a package of a dozen Energizer Ultimate Lithium AAA's, should be here in 4 days.

Meantime, I have in my Amazon cart a 48 pack of ACDelco alkalines, 24 AA and 24 AAA. They are relatively inexpensive compared to the top name brands but they claim to be leak proof, or pretty much because of the stainless steel internal structure. I saw one review that complained about them leaking but that's nothing like the complaints I saw for most other alkaline cells.

BTW, I'm running a test right now with almost all my thermometer/hygrometers in a pan covered with Saran Wrap and a little wet salt in a bottle cap to control the humidity to 75%. I'm writing down data every few hours. I'm finding that only my 2 Yolink thermo/hygrometers (that I normally keep in my freezer and refrigerator, they transmit wifi data to my cell phones via a hub at my router) are close to accurate. Well, I have 3 similar devices I bought off Ebay that use a LR44 cell that look to be quite accurate as well, who knew? I've had them for years not knowing how accurate they were. But I have no way of getting a control for temperature, I guess, unless I buy an expensive instrument. The salt test for hygrometers is pretty easy and cheap and should produce data for calibration, but for a thermometer AFAIK you need one you know to be accurate. I'm developing some confidence in some but I can't swear by any of mine. Theoretically, all mine, even the ones that agree pretty closely, could be wrong. Yes, there's the ice water test, which works on some thermometers and I've done them, but none of those strike me as dependable as a benchmark to use against the others. And they may be right at 32F but not right at, say, 70F.
 
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I have a big card with dozens of Kirkland AAA's, which reviews indicate were made for Costco by Duracell. Customer reviews are incredibly negative, lots of people saying they leaked. I was thinking of either recycling them or bringing back to Costco for a refund. Then I decided I'm just going to use them in my EDC single cell instead of Eneloops and hope they don't leak. I have many EDC's, if one is ruined it's not a big deal.
 

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I replaced my wireless doorbell system with a wired one years ago, never took down the wireless units. It occured to me today that I should probably take them down, and yeah, let's just say these batteries have been sitting for a bit.

A few years ago i bought a wireless keyboard online because the then current one (1st) was "misbehaving": i never got used to it (2nd) because some of the keys were very different ... so i got another one and, when this one arrived, i carefully wrapped the 2nd keyboard in bubble plastic and placed in in the new (3rd) keyboard's box and kept it in the garage thinking, should some mishap happened to the 3rd keyboard, i could use the 2nd as a backup.

Fast forward to about 2 months ago, my sister's keyboard died and i thought of that keyboard in the garage so i went and retrieved it ... except i had forgotten to remove the batteries before storing it in the garage, and it was left there for more than 2 years ...



The picture you posted: multiply it by ... say ... 500 or so ...



It was to the point that removing the batteries TORE the battery housing thus killing the keyboard ... had to get another keyboard ...
 
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A few years ago i bought a wireless keyboard online because the then current one (1st) was "misbehaving": i never got used to it (2nd) because some of the keys were very different ... so i got another one and, when this one arrived, i carefully wrapped the 2nd keyboard in bubble plastic and placed in in the new (3rd) keyboard's box and kept it in the garage thinking, should some mishap happened to the 3rd keyboard, i could use the 2nd as a backup.

Fast forward to about 2 months ago, my sister's keyboard died and i thought of that keyboard in the garage so i went and retrieved it ... except i had forgotten to remove the batteries before storing it in the garage, and it was left there for more than 2 years ...



The picture you posted: multiply it by ... say ... 500 or so ...



It was to the point that removing the batteries TORE the battery housing thus killing the keyboard ... had to get another keyboard ...
Your story mirrors mine, I have a former cordless keyboard in storage, while I continue to use its replacement. I hope I did remove the batteries from KB #1!

Yep, I've found equipment set aside for years that had been ruined because I neglected to remove the batteries.
 

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like those gun sights/scopes, lasers languishing in storage

I swear batteries leak a lot more readily these days - or maybe just Duracells?
 

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I'm expecting these EBL rechargeables to be delivered today, 12 AAA (1100mAH) and 12 AA (2800 mAH). About $43.
The eneloops I bought from Costco years ago are almost dead.

 
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It is Duracells, they are pretty bad with the leaking. Energizer are much more robust in this regard.
My research of last week suggests these comments are valid, that is to say recently, which is what counts now.
 

VirtualLarry

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Heck, I've had brand-new Logitech keyboards, with Duracell batteries, BNIB, stored for two years, and when I took them out, they were swollen an useless.
 

Red Squirrel

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Yeah Durahell seems to be the worse for leaking. I've been slowly moving towards rechargeables as I hate the idea of single use cells anyway. When ni-mh first came out they were mostly crap, the self discharge was terrible, but they've gotten better now, so even for things like remotes they are ok. They may not last quite as long as single use but just throw them on the charger once in a while and you're good.
 

RLGL

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When the first of the year comes around, I replace all the throw away batteries in my devices
 

tcsenter

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Flashlights! We always have an inexpensive LED flashlight in the cars, the ones that take 3 AAA. Out of sight, out of mind. Almost guaranteed to be leaking after a couple years. So when I do the smoke detector batteries annually, I do everything else too. Flashlights, remote controls, etc.
 

Muse

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The eneloops I bought from Costco years ago are almost dead.
My Eneloops seem OK, but I haven't tested them. I have dozens and dozens, AAA and AA. When they run down I immediately recharge them and store in battery cases. I have recycled a few, but only a handful out of 60-80 cells. They may have lost some capacity but it's not obvious. It is a good idea when buying Eneloops to give some thought to not buying fakes. If you search for that you can get some tips. I'm not saying that the ones you bought at Costco were fakes, that would be unlikely, but online it's caveat emptor.
 

lxskllr

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I'm expecting these EBL rechargeables to be delivered today, 12 AAA (1100mAH) and 12 AA (2800 mAH). About $43.
The eneloops I bought from Costco years ago are almost dead.

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I have the AAAs, and I've been very happy with them. Reading when I bought them, they sounded like they were overrated for capacity. You aren't really getting that capacity as usable energy, but it acts as a reserve so they don't crash as hard at the bottom of the depletion scale. I've never tested them with instruments, but in subjective use, they've been great.
 

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like those gun sights/scopes, lasers languishing in storage

I swear batteries leak a lot more readily these days - or maybe just Duracells?
Just Duracells and no name brand batteries. But we expect some leaking from no name brands. But hose no name ones don't explode as frequently as Duracells. I hate Duracells with a vengeance. They've wasted my time cleaning and polishing the contacts of some expensive electronics. They used to not explode up until 7-10 years ago. If Durcells come included with something I brought, I trash those Duracells immediately. Their Procells version don't leak as much. Nowadays I only use Energizer and Ikea batteries. Energizers hardly ever leak, and if they do, it's very little. The Ikea ones don't leak. Never had a single one leaked in the 9-10 years that I've been using them.
 
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