PSA: College bound HS Seniors!

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Anubis
you all do realize its not all about the money

ima call bs on that.

I go to a community college, when I got accepted to some ivy league schools.
the only reason, is because I am getting the same education (for general at least) here then I would there...paying an arm and a leg, and a baby.

I have taken a class at a unniversity and I feel it is the same both ways.

homework load is much less at my community college though, so far at least.

You have at most 4 years before you realize you've made the biggest mistake of your life.

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I will graduate from a unniversity, I would NEVER stop at a community college.

Sorry, I must have explained what I was thinking wrong.

Good luck getting back into those Ivy League schools.

EDIT: And just so nobody takes it the wrong way, yes, this is a sincere "Good luck." Not a sarcastic one.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Anubis
you all do realize its not all about the money

ima call bs on that.

I go to a community college, when I got accepted to some ivy league schools.
the only reason, is because I am getting the same education (for general at least) here then I would there...paying an arm and a leg, and a baby.

I have taken a class at a unniversity and I feel it is the same both ways.

homework load is much less at my community college though, so far at least.

I think he's talking about people who study "what they love" instead of "what they can make money at and don't hate"

if you don't mind living in an apartment for the rest of your life and don't mind not being financially secure enough to have a family and a car with more than 3 cylinders, I don't see how that kind of attitude is possible in this day and age.

This generation will be WORSE OFF than our parents. Already 2 parents have to work in most families just to keep the books balanced against their wanton lust for material goods... Just imagine how the "bling bling spinners" generation is going to feel when they realize that photography and polysci degrees will cost them tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars and not help them earn a DIME!

I don't understand why you think you can't make $$ in photography. We have 4 random clients that are either independent wedding or studio photogs, and they all take home atleast 70k a year.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Anubis
you all do realize its not all about the money

ima call bs on that.

I go to a community college, when I got accepted to some ivy league schools.
the only reason, is because I am getting the same education (for general at least) here then I would there...paying an arm and a leg, and a baby.

I have taken a class at a unniversity and I feel it is the same both ways.

homework load is much less at my community college though, so far at least.

You have at most 4 years before you realize you've made the biggest mistake of your life.

read more.
I will graduate from a unniversity, I would NEVER stop at a community college.

Sorry, I must have explained what I was thinking wrong.

Good luck getting back into those Ivy League schools.

thank you.

sorry ace, definatly got what you said in a different way.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Anubis
you all do realize its not all about the money

ima call bs on that.

I go to a community college, when I got accepted to some ivy league schools.
the only reason, is because I am getting the same education (for general at least) here then I would there...paying an arm and a leg, and a baby.

I have taken a class at a unniversity and I feel it is the same both ways.

homework load is much less at my community college though, so far at least.

You have at most 4 years before you realize you've made the biggest mistake of your life.

read more.
I will graduate from a unniversity, I would NEVER stop at a community college.

Sorry, I must have explained what I was thinking wrong.

oh n/m then,
that's usually a good way to save cash. Make sure you credits tranfser though.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Anubis
you all do realize its not all about the money

ima call bs on that.

I go to a community college, when I got accepted to some ivy league schools.
the only reason, is because I am getting the same education (for general at least) here then I would there...paying an arm and a leg, and a baby.

I have taken a class at a unniversity and I feel it is the same both ways.

homework load is much less at my community college though, so far at least.

I think he's talking about people who study "what they love" instead of "what they can make money at and don't hate"

if you don't mind living in an apartment for the rest of your life and don't mind not being financially secure enough to have a family and a car with more than 3 cylinders, I don't see how that kind of attitude is possible in this day and age.

This generation will be WORSE OFF than our parents. Already 2 parents have to work in most families just to keep the books balanced against their wanton lust for material goods... Just imagine how the "bling bling spinners" generation is going to feel when they realize that photography and polysci degrees will cost them tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars and not help them earn a DIME!

I am not stating that.

What I was trying to say was that , getting my generals done at a community college is much cheaper then going to , say...a over - expensive unniversity.

Lol, you misunderstood me too. Anubis was trying to say that everything I postulated is irrelevant because people want to do what they love, not what they can make money at and not hate. You're the one who's misreading the thread a little bit. This thread is focusing on college major choice and your ability to make a living after college, not what kind of college you're going to.

yes that is what i ment, having known many people who hate/hated their jobs and only did it for the money i decided long ago that i was not gonna go that route, instead i was going to do what i enjoyed and make less money. peace of mind >>>> stupid expensive toys. IMO

 

[Deeko]

Umm, most people want to do what they want to do for a living. I'm not in computer science because I think its a booming field (those fvcks are the ones who flooded the market a few years ago to begin with), I'm in it because its what I want to do. If your sister wants to be in photography, good for her. Kudos to her for sticking with her passion. I have a lot more respect for that than for someone who is in, say, engineering, who hates engineering, just to get a job.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: LordMaul
Meh. Electrical Engineering degrees, for instance, aren't all that. Show me their salaries compared to, say, some medical-geared professions from people who majored in Biology. You should put that up there a couple more times.

edit: I see, no grad school...well, maybe not, in that case. EEs still have a lot of certification and post-BS work to do, though.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but certifications mean dick-all for 99% of EE jobs.

While we're at it, the problem with Biology majors is that you end up being a tech unless you pursue your education past your BSc. So even though they might have decent wages, their chances for advancement without any further degrees are rather slim.

What certifications for EE?

<-- BSEE

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: LordMaul
Meh. Electrical Engineering degrees, for instance, aren't all that. Show me their salaries compared to, say, some medical-geared professions from people who majored in Biology. You should put that up there a couple more times.

edit: I see, no grad school...well, maybe not, in that case. EEs still have a lot of certification and post-BS work to do, though.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but certifications mean dick-all for 99% of EE jobs.

While we're at it, the problem with Biology majors is that you end up being a tech unless you pursue your education past your BSc. So even though they might have decent wages, their chances for advancement without any further degrees are rather slim.

What certifications for EE?

<-- BSEE

I assume he was referring to the MCSE & CCNE, which mean dick-all to anyone with an actual engineering degree

 

[DaWhim]

Originally posted by: yamadakun

Originally posted by: DaWhim

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
You forgot economics.

I'm an economics minor, but I never got the idea that there was a great demand for it in the workforce unless you got a PhD in it. I just took it on because it was the fastest way to get a minor for me b/c I AP'ed intro macro and intro micro

you have finance on it, but not economics? economics is not important?

finance is a sub-field of economics.

Economics is quite different from finance, if you don't have PhD to teach or get a consultant/policy maker job, it is not important. The world doesn't need a bunch of theorists talking about ideal economic conditions. Finance leads to i-bank with good money.

I decided to go with a MA or MS economics. my school offers financial economics, which is just like the finance they offer in the management school. I can cross take courses in the management school (MBA courses). econometrics is what make you money.

 

[Mo0o]

I know someone that majored in Econ. now works for a hedgefund making major $$$

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Anubis
you all do realize its not all about the money

ima call bs on that.

I go to a community college, when I got accepted to some ivy league schools.
the only reason, is because I am getting the same education (for general at least) here then I would there...paying an arm and a leg, and a baby.

I have taken a class at a unniversity and I feel it is the same both ways.

homework load is much less at my community college though, so far at least.

I think he's talking about people who study "what they love" instead of "what they can make money at and don't hate"

if you don't mind living in an apartment for the rest of your life and don't mind not being financially secure enough to have a family and a car with more than 3 cylinders, I don't see how that kind of attitude is possible in this day and age.

This generation will be WORSE OFF than our parents. Already 2 parents have to work in most families just to keep the books balanced against their wanton lust for material goods... Just imagine how the "bling bling spinners" generation is going to feel when they realize that photography and polysci degrees will cost them tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars and not help them earn a DIME!

I am not stating that.

What I was trying to say was that , getting my generals done at a community college is much cheaper then going to , say...a over - expensive unniversity.

Lol, you misunderstood me too. Anubis was trying to say that everything I postulated is irrelevant because people want to do what they love, not what they can make money at and not hate. You're the one who's misreading the thread a little bit. This thread is focusing on college major choice and your ability to make a living after college, not what kind of college you're going to.

yes that is what i ment, having known many people who hate/hated their jobs and only did it for the money i decided long ago that i was not gonna go that route, instead i was going to do what i enjoyed and make less money. peace of mind >>>> stupid expensive toys. IMO

That may be true, but with unemployment where it is and eventuality of more economic turbulence and huge spikes in it (the unemployment) over our careers, I think it's silly to really put what you LOVE at the top of your list if what you want to do for a living. When you take something you love and make it work, that robs it of a lot of what you loved about it in the first place.

I wish I had a tape recording of the two old mechanics at the GM dealer I talked to who wistfully thought about the 60's when they decided to become mechanics because of their love of the classic camaros etc, only to find themselves changing the oil on pontiac sunfires in 2005, hating every moment of their lives with their passions destroyed.

I'm getting the same way with computers. I love them, but sitting on one for 9 hours a da in the office, with more SSH connections open than I care to think about is very draining.

IMHO, you need to focus on getting a "job that you can live with that you won't hate but you can still make money at" over a "job that you love and will probably love a lot less when you're forced to do it for 40-60 hours a week"

 

[heelside23]

last I checked, "university" was spelled with 1 "n"

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: LordMaul
Meh. Electrical Engineering degrees, for instance, aren't all that. Show me their salaries compared to, say, some medical-geared professions from people who majored in Biology. You should put that up there a couple more times.

edit: I see, no grad school...well, maybe not, in that case. EEs still have a lot of certification and post-BS work to do, though.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but certifications mean dick-all for 99% of EE jobs.

While we're at it, the problem with Biology majors is that you end up being a tech unless you pursue your education past your BSc. So even though they might have decent wages, their chances for advancement without any further degrees are rather slim.

What certifications for EE?

<-- BSEE

I assume he was referring to the MCSE & CCNE, which mean dick-all to anyone with an actual engineering degree

What about PE & FE?

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: heelside23
last I checked, "university" was spelled with 1 "n"

Pot meet kettle. That's not a complete sentance.

[The] last [time] I checked, "university" was spelled with [one, not '1'] 'n'. <-- single quotes for characters

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: heelside23
last I checked, "university" was spelled with 1 "n"

Pot meet kettle. That's not a complete sentance asshole.

[The] last [time] I checked, "university" was spelled with [one, not '1'] 'n'. <-- single quotes for characters

god you guys really are dorks

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: heelside23
last I checked, "university" was spelled with 1 "n"

Pot meet kettle. That's not a complete sentance asshole.

[The] last [time] I checked, "university" was spelled with [one, not '1'] 'n'. <-- single quotes for characters

god you guys really are dorks

I just have a problem with people who try to troll in a thread that hasn't yet disentegrated into neffing nonsense. I really am enjoying hearing what you have to say and I'm patiently waiting to hear what you thought of my last post.

 

[randumb]

You forgot mathematics.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: randumb
You forgot mathematics.

nothing immediatley comes to mind when I think of the job possiblities for anyone majoring in mathematics, but not proceeding to masters or PhD.

Care to share? I'm curious.

 

[aswedc]

I know plenty of these people. The kind that major in photography, or fashion, or don't even go to college. Because they want to do what they enjoy, and there's nothing wrong with that right? Wrong.

Life takes money. If you don't go to college and major in something useful, you simply don't have enough money to live.

Now I'm not taking an estate and a SUV. This is paying your rent, food, and bills, and having something left over. You think you can do that on 30k? What a joke.

These people invariably leech of others, whether it be their parents, friends, or significant other, or are lazy bums who never go out to eat because it costs too much money, never go on vacation, never drive anywhere, have furniture and clothes entirely from the Goodwill, and are essentially tied to their cut rate or shared living spaces.

This is reality people. Other than rare exceptions, which are pure luck, this is your life. Either you take money from other people (all too common), or you can't even afford a $10 dinner. Have fun with that.

 

[aswedc]

Originally posted by: DeathBUA

Originally posted by: zanieladie

Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Yup I do, I love what I do, wouldnt trade it for the world

I'm happy for you!

From what I understand, the projected future need for nursing positions is quite high.

They say the country will be short 1 MILLION nurses by 2012. Considering thats only 6 years away thats frightening. Actually I see the effects of it at my hospital since we have to keep one unit permanant shut down because we dont have enough nursing staff to run it. That's 20 hospital beds just sitting there unused. Quite sad.

From what I understand, nurses make good money. It should be added to the acceptable list.

 

[JasonE4]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: heelside23
last I checked, "university" was spelled with 1 "n"

Pot meet kettle. That's not a complete sentance.

[The] last [time] I checked, "university" was spelled with [one, not '1'] 'n'. <-- single quotes for characters

Yeah.

 

[randumb]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: randumb
You forgot mathematics.

nothing immediatley comes to mind when I think of the job possiblities for anyone majoring in mathematics, but not proceeding to masters or PhD.

Care to share? I'm curious.

Math majors can easily enter almost any of your mentioned fields. Eric Lander got his degrees in math and ended up teaching managerial economics and then becoming the head of the Human Genome Project. Math majors also have lucrative immediate career paths in actuarial science and investment banking. Specialized majors within math like statistics are actually worse in general, at least at the undergraduate level.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: heelside23
last I checked, "university" was spelled with 1 "n"

Pot meet kettle. That's not a complete sentance asshole.

[The] last [time] I checked, "university" was spelled with [one, not '1'] 'n'. <-- single quotes for characters

god you guys really are dorks

I just have a problem with people who try to troll in a thread that hasn't yet disentegrated into neffing nonsense. I really am enjoying hearing what you have to say and I'm patiently waiting to hear what you thought of my last post.

I agree with you to an extent, the GM dudes is a decent example but for anything you can not predict that you will be just as happy 40 years in the future, that holds true for any job really, regardless about how much you love it at the get go, hell you may hate it at first and then decide its the best thing ever,

I will say that you don?t seem to understand the photography isn?t the sacrifice you thing it is in terms of money for love, there is a SH!T LOAD of money in photography more then you know, I know photographers that make over 100K a year. You seem to think that we will all be starving artists, and we will not, you are thinking of painters

I for 1 want to teach in college, I enjoy teaching and college lvl is the top end of it, if it requires me to get my PHD then I will do that if needed after my MFA, and I?m sure you saw that college professor was ranked like 3rd on that "Best Jobs to have" list

 

[aswedc]

I don't understand why you think you can't make $$ in photography. We have 4 random clients that are either independent wedding or studio photogs, and they all take home atleast 70k a year.

You're probably in a position where you're only exposed to successful photographers. How many wedding or freelance photographers can the market support at 70k? Some, but not many. There are millions of people who wasted money on a photography education they'll never earn back. See the difference between that and something like engineering?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: aswedc
I know plenty of these people. The kind that major in photography, or fashion, or don't even go to college. Because they want to do what they enjoy, and there's nothing wrong with that right? Wrong.

Life takes money. If you don't go to college and major in something useful, you simply don't have enough money to live.

Now I'm not taking an estate and a SUV. This is paying your rent, food, and bills, and having something left over. You think you can do that on 30k? What a joke.

These people invariably leech of others, whether it be their parents, friends, or significant other, or are lazy bums who never go out to eat because it costs too much money, never go on vacation, never drive anywhere, have furniture and clothes entirely from the Goodwill, and are essentially tied to their cut rate or shared living spaces.

This is reality people. Other than rare exceptions, which are pure luck, this is your life. Either you take money from other people (all too common), or you can't even afford a $10 dinner. Have fun with that.

umm depending on where you live 30-40K is fine for a single person, not everyone wants to live in LA or NYC