PSA: Drivers Pro-Tip

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Eugene86

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Dec 18, 2007
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Looking out for #1 + lack of consequences. Hobbes and the Republicans are right, I guess.

Every person that cuts in increases the wait time for everyone behind them. Same as if you cut in front of someone in the grocery store.

If you could ask another driver to go in, but he said no, would you honor his wishes? I kind of doubt it.

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Ballatician

Golden Member
Dec 6, 2007
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i really can't wait until urban or high traffic areas move to some sort of smart or computer controlled driving system. It could be so much more efficient, we wouldn't have to deal with self-righteous drivers and I wouldn't get rear ended by ignorant drivers.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
36,130
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Well, I guess I'm not willing to risk getting in a gunfight in the middle of the highway because someone invaded my personal space. Whether he's in a hurry because his wife's in labor or because he's late for his flight to the mother-ship, it makes no difference to me. I'll take a breath and move on with my life.
So, you make choices in your life based on the constant fear of a gunfight breaking out at any given moment?
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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If I tried to do that in a grocery store it would most likely cause a scene, the cashier may refuse to ring my items up, people would start bitching, and it would most likely turn into a very unpleasant situation for everyone.

When I do this in a car, it is done and over with in a matter of seconds, nobody bitches and everyone goes on with their lives.
If I could ask another driver to go in front of them I would, but, unfortunately, I am unable to do that in most circumstances. And even if I could, I'd just be slowing down traffic that way.

You're slowing down traffic anyway...but that's not a big deal. The key is recognizing the discrepancy that for reasons that are purely your own, you do not think it's acceptable to do this on foot.

So on to this:
Also, I don't see how me acting in one situation has anything to do with another.

The relationship between the two is that it's a representation of one's moral code.

In the US/Canada/UK, we hold queues to such a high social standard that most of us routinely commit misdemeanors and minor crimes (speeding, rolling stops, jaywalking) on a daily basis yet we would not commit the perfectly legal act of cutting in line (which carries only social consequences) except in the most extreme of circumstances.

Unless we're driving...then it somehow all goes out the window for some people.

But as human beings, shouldn't we have a single, consistent moral code?

At some point in my life I considered this. If I don't think it's acceptable to cut lines when I'm on foot, but it's OK when I'm driving, it means that I somehow have a a different moral code when I'm driving. As our morals largely drive how we act and respond in different situations they are integral to who we are as people.

It basically means that I'm a different person when I get behind the wheel. And I just can't live with that. I'm a strong, intelligent, educated person. I drive the car; it does not drive me. My views on right and wrong should not be altered by the simple act of driving. Otherwise, what am I? If I'm OK with this, what stops me from justifying just about anything? I can even justify robbing banks...if the other suckers want to work all their lives to get paid, that's their problem. I just can't do that. I am better than that.

This is not at all about whether it's moral or virtuous to wait in line. I simply do not have the balls to cut lines on foot, and getting behind the wheel does not constitute growing a pair - that's how people get hurt. If someone has the guts to cut lines both on foot and behind the wheel, I may think they are a jerk (or at least not familiar with our cultural mores) but at least that jerk has a clear, consistent moral stance on the matter and in so doing is more philosophically advanced than someone who just allows their moral compass to drift with the winds and tides, choosing ad hoc what's right and wrong based on what he's doing at a given time.

I simply have to be better than that even if it means resisting the urge to just cut ahead and score an extra half hour of time with my baby daughter. I am not a unique and beautiful snowflake. I am not more important than anyone else on the road. I do not have the right to put other human beings at risk of property damage or bodily harm just to save myself some time. I must stay true to myself whether I am walking, driving or doing anything else.

At great length (too great, I'm sure) that is what one situation has to do with the other.

I know this is probably way too deep and philosophical for ATOT, but honestly if everyone thought about this driving would probably more enjoyable, safer and more efficient for us all.

Thanks to those who read all that. Even if you don't agree, I hope it at least made you think.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Yeah, it's not like you're going to hit me. So I'll just nudge right in. It's your choice to go off the road or hit me. You'll do neither. So I'm in, you're pissed and my drive time is less. Me win, you fail.

my 1988 volvo 240 wagon says yes i am going to hit you. yes i have hit people and simply give them the finger
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
14,635
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So, you make choices in your life based on the constant fear of a gunfight breaking out at any given moment?

Well, it wouldn't really be a gunfight. It would be them with a gun and me with a lug-wrench and/or multitool. But that's beside the point. As an adult, you can't get into a fight and not look like an idiot. Watch any episode of Cops. When any two people get into a fight, regardless of who "wins", they both look stupid.
 

HopJokey

Platinum Member
May 6, 2005
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This reminds me of a time where I was waiting in a massive drive-thru line at an "In-n-Out Burger" restaurant. After getting near the front a lady pulls up from the other side of the parking lot not expecting the line to be so long. I was feeling nice and I let her cut in front of me saving her at least 20 minutes.

As I pull up to pay, the cashier says "the lady in front of you has already paid for your order". I give her the thumbs up for comping me as she drives off in a car with the vanity license plates that says "Go Cuse".

I don't know if what I did was right or wrong (unfair to those behind me) but it was a pleasant surprise for her to "repay" me.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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This reminds me of a time where I was waiting in a massive drive-thru line at an "In-n-Out Burger" restaurant. After getting near the front a lady pulls up from the other side of the parking lot not expecting the line to be so long. I was feeling nice and I let her cut in front of me saving her at least 20 minutes.

As I pull up to pay, the cashier says "the lady in front of you has already paid for your order". I give her the thumbs up for comping me as she drives off in a car with the vanity license plates that says "Go Cuse".

I don't know if what I did was right or wrong (unfair to those behind me) but it was a pleasant surprise for her to "repay" me.

Yes, it was unfair to those behind you.
 

Josh

Lifer
Mar 20, 2000
10,917
0
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I do this.

I drive like an asshole and I apologize. But, I hate traffic, I hate waiting in lines, so I do everything I can to avoid it including speeding up and cutting in a huge line if there is just enough room for me to get my car in there.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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584
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This reminds me of a time where I was waiting in a massive drive-thru line at an "In-n-Out Burger" restaurant. After getting near the front a lady pulls up from the other side of the parking lot not expecting the line to be so long. I was feeling nice and I let her cut in front of me saving her at least 20 minutes.

As I pull up to pay, the cashier says "the lady in front of you has already paid for your order". I give her the thumbs up for comping me as she drives off in a car with the vanity license plates that says "Go Cuse".

I don't know if what I did was right or wrong (unfair to those behind me) but it was a pleasant surprise for her to "repay" me.

As long as she paid for all the food of the people behind you as well everything is cool.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,562
3
0
Yeah, doing that at an intersection is a douchebag move. On the highway via exit ramps is fair game.
 

Doomguy

Platinum Member
May 28, 2000
2,389
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This reminds me of a time where I was waiting in a massive drive-thru line at an "In-n-Out Burger" restaurant. After getting near the front a lady pulls up from the other side of the parking lot not expecting the line to be so long. I was feeling nice and I let her cut in front of me saving her at least 20 minutes.

As I pull up to pay, the cashier says "the lady in front of you has already paid for your order". I give her the thumbs up for comping me as she drives off in a car with the vanity license plates that says "Go Cuse".

I don't know if what I did was right or wrong (unfair to those behind me) but it was a pleasant surprise for her to "repay" me.

How did she pay for your order? You hadn't even put in your food order yet.
 

Savarak

Platinum Member
Oct 27, 2001
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How did she pay for your order? You hadn't even put in your food order yet.

by the time she's at the paying/receiving food window, you are probably either at or just past the order window(or box/machine/etc)
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
12,218
8
81
i wouldnt really say that. in my 76 impala, a guy in a mid 90s nissan tried that. i kept going and he slid over and my bumper hit him mid-door. fucked up his door, my bumper barely had a scratch. he was pissed, but it was his accident according to the police. he kept yelling "he wouldnt back off and let me in!" while the cop told him "you should have found a safe place to merge that wasnt a block after the white line stops". dumbass.

While all well and good that you can get in, you may want to think about this. If vehicle 2 (the one you are getting in front of) does not stop to let you in and hits you, it will be your fault. Both from a police and insurance viewpoint. Vehicle 2 has the right of way, and you do not when merging.

***Disclaimer***
This is from my experience working in claims and insurance industry, but is NOT in ANY way advocating these actions. Nor is it meant as any kind of legal advice. You take full responsibility for any accidents, and should not do this.

***Disclaimer***

I've never thought of this before, but that is fanfuckingtastic news. I look forward to my next opportunity to scuff up my bumper on someone's sidepanel.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
30,383
912
126
People do that around here... there's a road with three lanes for a bit and very few people use the right lane, because it eventually turns into a right-turn only lane. But there are always a few jack asses that jump in the lane and speed ahead hoping to make it in front of everyone else who keeps in the lane that they need to be in.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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sometimes the street sign / warning doesn't go back that far and before they know it they've already passed the back of the line.*

*the above excuse applies only for n00bs who don't drive the route daily.
 
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