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pcgeek11

Lifer
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Homo Screwed Up if your win is King Donald. There is a stupid prize if I ever saw one. Guess it makes sense.

Not in his perspective. Judicial activism is his winning, liberal tears is his winning, attacking people different from yourself is his winning. Later, conservatives will want liberals to believe that their concerns about behavior and law are sincere and justified, just cuz reasons, but their track record won't back them up.

I didn't "win" anything. Sorry that you don't like the truth that it isn't against the law to out the whistleblower's name. I was only pointing out the falsehood that is being cast out as fact when it isn't.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Why do you think Rand Paul is trying to get someone else to do his dirty work instead of just naming the whistleblower himself?


I have no idea what his motives are. Maybe write him a letter and ask or just make something up that makes you feel better.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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so you think it is okay to out the whistleblower?? Knowing full well that Trumps rabid base and I am including you in this would stop at nothing to harm the whistleblower!!
BTW it is against the law!!
But that is not the same as saying there would be no repercussions for identifying the person whose complaint over Trump's dealings with Ukraine catalyzed the House impeachment investigation.
A member of Congress who reveals the whistleblower's identity could be removed from committees or face other legislative sanctions; a member of the public risks a civil lawsuit from the whistleblower's legal team, which has threatened to hold anyone who reveals the name personally liable if the disclosure results in harm to the whistleblower or the person's family.

" Knowing full well that Trumps rabid base and I am including you in this would stop at nothing to harm the whistleblower!! "
^^^^^
I think this is against the forum rules now isn't it.

I didn't say I thought it was anything, just pointing out that it isn't illegal to do so. If you think it is illegal please cite the specific law that is being broken by invoking his name.

 
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qliveur

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You can’t possibly be serious, she played this about as perfectly as anyone could hope for.

If you think otherwise what actions by Pelosi do you think would have led to a different result?
Remember when she said that impeachment was a bad idea? I do.

Maybe she should've stuck with that.
No, he's just invoking Ben Franklin. Guess you don't read.
As I've already stated, my bad for not remembering a political anecdote that I learned 30 years ago.

I guess you don't read, either.
 
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it won`t happen but it would be funny if Robert`s had to break a tie...lolool
If you had watched the coverage a bit more closely you would have seen where Chief Justice Roberts answered that exact question. In case of a tie, it would not pass.

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Here's the exchange:
Schumer: "Is the chief justice aware that in the impeachment trial of President Johnson, Chief Justice Chase, as presiding officer, cast tie-breaking votes on both March 31 and April 2, 1868?"
Roberts: "I am, Mr. Leader. The one concerned a motion to adjourn; the other concerned a motion to close deliberations. I do not regard those isolated episodes 150 years ago as sufficient to support a general authority to break ties. If the members of this body elected by the people and accountable to them divide equally on a motion, the normal rule is that the motion fails. I think it would be inappropriate for me, an unelected official from a different branch of government, to assert the power to change that result so that the motion would succeed."
 
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Looks like acquittal vote will not happen until Wednesday. Dems can vote on amendments which will all be expected to fail, before that vote, so that could even change. Really, crimping Trump's victory lap timing.
Probably more designed to F with the IOWA caucuses. They never miss an opportunity.
Pretty much like the DNC rule change to help Bloomberg while screwing Bernie. Kinda like the same plan as 2016 with the DNC, Hillary and Sen. Sanders.
 
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Moonbeam

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If you had watched the coverage a bit more closely you would have seen where Chief Justice Roberts answered that exact question. In case of a tie, it would not pass.

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Here's the exchange:
Schumer: "Is the chief justice aware that in the impeachment trial of President Johnson, Chief Justice Chase, as presiding officer, cast tie-breaking votes on both March 31 and April 2, 1868?"
Roberts: "I am, Mr. Leader. The one concerned a motion to adjourn; the other concerned a motion to close deliberations. I do not regard those isolated episodes 150 years ago as sufficient to support a general authority to break ties. If the members of this body elected by the people and accountable to them divide equally on a motion, the normal rule is that the motion fails. I think it would be inappropriate for me, an unelected official from a different branch of government, to assert the power to change that result so that the motion would succeed."
You believe that smoke screen of a joke. Neither he nor those clown Senators were elected by the people democratically. Republicans maintain congressional majorities by voter suppression and gerrymandering and dark money from billionaires. They are not democratically elected and that scum ball Roberts knows it. They are all a pile of shit. He presides over a court that was stacked by the Republican party, a party that needs to be exterminated by voter revolution.
 
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You believe that smoke screen of a joke. Neither he nor those clown Senators were elected by the people democratically. Republicans maintain congressional majorities by voter suppression and gerrymandering and dark money from billionaires. They are not democratically elected and that scum ball Roberts knows it. They are all a pile of shit. He presides over a court that was stacked by the Republican party, a party that needs to be exterminated by voter revolution.
Aren't you from California? You haven't even had the opportunity to vote for a Republican for US Senate in 6/8/10 years due to the gerrymandering of the State and yet somehow it's the Republicans who are suppressing the vote ?
 

Grooveriding

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Trump has radicalized the base to the point they identify themselves with the success of his criminality. It's not even a semblance of policy or social views. Trump is a degenerate who has tossed those 'traditional conservative values' on their head.

It's just him winning. The base is cultified to the point that a win for Trump, is a win for them. 'He got away with another crime? Great, winning! People are incensed he pulled off another scam? Winning!'

They are saturated in the kool aid.
 

sportage

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Real Time with Bill Maher 10/31 was good.
Can watch for free via youtube.
But I have this awful feeling democrats are running in circles deciding who will replace Donald Trump.
They can't seem to find a candidate they like or that they can stick with more than 48 hours.
Even Bill Maher was undecided.
Unlike 2016 when everyone (every democrat) was sticking with Hillary, this time there is no front runner. And that is not good.
If we can not impeach Trump then we must beat Trump in November.
And to do that will take as much unification from the democrats as republicans have for Trump.
Even more.

And, by the way...
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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I didn't "win" anything. Sorry that you don't like the truth that it isn't against the law to out the whistleblower's name. I was only pointing out the falsehood that is being cast out as fact when it isn't.

Republican all of a sudden cares about truth, convenient. Hold onto to it tight, you might not get another anytime soon
 
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cytg111

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I didn't "win" anything. Sorry that you don't like the truth that it isn't against the law to out the whistleblower's name. I was only pointing out the falsehood that is being cast out as fact when it isn't.
Who cares? You do. Noone understands why. So we laugh.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Remember when she said that impeachment was a bad idea? I do.

Maybe she should've stuck with that.

As I've already stated, my bad for not remembering a political anecdote that I learned 30 years ago.

I guess you don't read, either.

If you want to provide why you think impeachment was a bad idea by all means do so. Remember when I said it was modestly popular?
 

fskimospy

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Aren't you from California? You haven't even had the opportunity to vote for a Republican for US Senate in 6/8/10 years due to the gerrymandering of the State and yet somehow it's the Republicans who are suppressing the vote ?

Remwmber everyone, according to Taj Republicans are being oppressed if when they come in third place they aren’t given special privileges and treated as if they came in second place instead.

It’s always funny how the guys who argue against welfare shriek about how they aren’t given enough electoral welfare.
 
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