What is it about Sen Paul you dislike? He is a bit of a thorn in the side of some in the Republican party.
I am saying what I have said earlier is that people that say he should be arrested are full of shit as he broke no laws.
He is doing what he believes to be needed as in outing the whistleblower.
I for one don't even think the whistleblower is relevant. They got nothing from him/her... complete waste of time and money.
The whistleblower initially contacted both House and Senate intelligence committee's chairmen where an Adam Schiff aid told him to file it with the Inspector General which he/she did. Schiff filed a subpoena to the Acting Director of National Intelligence for the release of the complaint. Atkinson, the inspector general for the intelligence community then meets with Schiff to discuss the complaint. Not that Schiff has been perfect, he went overboard reading the complaint and juicing the language up. His closing speech was brilliant, the points apply to all of us, right matters, if not we are lost and his claiming "ask yourself if you can trust this president, you KNOW you can't".Well I wasn't going to say it, but since you brought it up. You are pretty silly about lots of things.
And second I did not make a statement about my feelings on outing the whistleblower. I only pointed out that it wasn't illegal to out him/her as portrayed by many on the forum.
I don't know who the whistleblower is and don't really care. They are irrelevant anyway. Meh
I do however suspect that Adam Schiff and his staff were deeply involved with the whistleblower before he blew his whistle.
What is it about Sen Paul you dislike? He is a bit of a thorn in the side of some in the Republican party.
I am saying what I have said earlier is that people that say he should be arrested are full of shit as he broke no laws.
He is doing what he believes to be needed as in outing the whistleblower.
I for one don't even think the whistleblower is relevant. They got nothing from him/her... complete waste of time and money.
I've seen no one say he should have been "arrested" regarding the impeachment proceedings, it's a political process, not a criminal prosecution. The whistleblower's complaint turned out to be very accurate, Trump was caught but of course as a trumper to you he is simply incapable of wrong, any wrong, any time. You've taken lying to yourself to a new level.I am saying what I have said earlier is that people that say he should be arrested are full of shit as he broke no laws.
He is doing what he believes to be needed as in outing the whistleblower.
I for one don't even think the whistleblower is relevant. They got nothing from him/her... complete waste of time and money.
Nice try at deflection! If you were serious about not caring who the whistleblower was you would have left it at that, instead odf being compelled to mention Schiff!Well I wasn't going to say it, but since you brought it up. You are pretty silly about lots of things.
And second I did not make a statement about my feelings on outing the whistleblower. I only pointed out that it wasn't illegal to out him/her as portrayed by many on the forum.
I don't know who the whistleblower is and don't really care. They are irrelevant anyway. Meh
I do however suspect that Adam Schiff and his staff were deeply involved with the whistleblower before he blew his whistle.
First off, the reason for wanting to get this done by Christmas was so that the trial didn’t run into the primaries. Second, the reason it was hurried was because trump is/was trying to meddle in the 2020 election. Third; I don’t know what you think fighting for our democracy is if you don’t think democrats using the one tool the founders gave us isn’t it.
Lastly, there is nothing stopping the house from continuing with the investigations you mentioned. In fact I’m very confident we’ll be hearing from Bolton and Parnas very soon.
Everyone here knew and understood that an impeachment was going to result in an acquittal, the outcome wasn’t a surprise to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention. But when the president of the United States violates his oath and abuses the power of his office to pressure a foreign government to meddle in our election, they must be held accountable and that’s what the house democrats did. The fact that the senate republicans failed to hold this president accountable doesn’t change that fact. However, what it did do was to let the American people know and see just who puts party before country and now it will be up to them to not only hold the president accountable but also the republicans who were derelict in their duties.
so here is why discussions typically do not take place. an excellent example of shutting down any chance of debate.Is there something about being a chickenshit Son-of-a-bitch that you don't understand? Some blindspot of yours?
I think the house should start impeaching Trump a second time with an extensive list of charges and go to court to bring in the witnesses. Take it to the ends of the earth even if it means destroying the integrity, the little of it that remains, of the Supreme Court. It's revolution time, seems to me, if we really mean to save our country from a Mafia Dictatorship.
I've seen no one say he should have been "arrested" regarding the impeachment proceedings, it's a political process, not a criminal prosecution. The whistleblower's complaint turned out to be very accurate, Trump was caught but of course as a trumper to you he is simply incapable of wrong, any wrong, any time. You've taken lying to yourself to a new level.
so here is why discussions typically do not take place. an excellent example of shutting down any chance of debate.
I hope he's wrong but he's probably right a main argument he makes is that the House should have broadened he charges to include at least Trump undeniable Emoluments Clause Violations and his assistance to Saudi Arabia in their War Criminal campaign against Yemen....
and as at least a couple of others in this thread apparently also feel unless I am just totally drunkenly misinterpreting their posts.
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you see, in a discussion you made an assertion so it is you who needs to justify their assertion. I do not have to reason against your assertion as you have not provided any specific examples of why your assertion in your opinion is correct. once you do that in a manner that invites debate, then you will almost certainly get a reasonable response.Well, you could tell us why you believe Rand Paul isn't a chickenshit son-of-a-bitch & explain why it just ain't so. Or you can just say it's perfectly OK that he is, because reasons. Give it a shot.
Rand Paul made a scumbag move trying to impugn the proceedings and the CJ by using the question portion to identify the whistleblower, as it would both endanger the whistleblower and use the impeachment proceedings as the venue for that act.you see, in a discussion you made an assertion so it is you who needs to justify their assertion. I do not have to reason against your assertion as you have not provided any specific examples of why your assertion in your opinion is correct. once you do that in a manner that invites debate, then you will almost certainly get a reasonable response.
Yes, I am a legal resident of the State of California. California alone can't end the issue of dark money and the Supreme Court delusion that money is speech. We have eliminated the problem of political gerrymandering, as you may or may not know:
California Terminated Gerrymandering. The U.S. Supreme Court Should Too.
www.commoncause.org
And we are on our way to destroying the Republican Party as needs to happen to save Democracy. We have insured that a Republican candidate for the Senate can't make the ballot just because they imagine their self important because of party affiliation. They actually have to have meaningful support from the people. California, with a liberal educational system and a practical deal with things that are real mentality and basically lacking the self hate engendered in the South by the loss of the Civil War, is not so full of walking brainwashed Republican automatons as other places. Here you need a substantial base to get on the ballot. I am sure, that as the Republican party dies and is replaced by reasoned conservative politicians, a non-demented conservative will be able to run for Senate. Just remember that Republican is in today's world, a form of mental illness. It is wise to protect yourself from crazy people because they are crazy. And remember that I have the greatest sympathy for people who are insane. There was a time long ago when I thought I was sane too, before I came to understand that my view of the world was upside down, inside out, and backward. Now you get to think of me as the one who is crazy.
A fact for your consideration from the world of madness I now live in:
People have sore toes, emotional issues, and they put those sore toes out in the aisle to make sure somebody will step on them.
Having been aggrieved in childhood, we unconsciously seek to relive that pain but without conscious awareness that we are unconsciously provoking it. This is the reason Republicans who thrive on their persecution complexes are seen by more normal people as huge babies. Love you. Now go suck your thumb and think about what I say. All the horrible embarrassing and humiliating truths about yourself that are so obvious to me, are only so because I already had to face them and doing so killed me. All my sacred toes abandoned as the Nothing took me. I let go and fell.
All I can tell you is that it's not the fall that kills you but the joy of realization that down is up.
First off, the reason for wanting to get this done by Christmas was so that the trial didn’t run into the primaries. Second, the reason it was hurried was because trump is/was trying to meddle in the 2020 election. Third; I don’t know what you think fighting for our democracy is if you don’t think democrats using the one tool the founders gave us isn’t it.
Lastly, there is nothing stopping the house from continuing with the investigations you mentioned. In fact I’m very confident we’ll be hearing from Bolton and Parnas very soon.
Everyone here knew and understood that an impeachment was going to result in an acquittal, the outcome wasn’t a surprise to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention. But when the president of the United States violates his oath and abuses the power of his office to pressure a foreign government to meddle in our election, they must be held accountable and that’s what the house democrats did. The fact that the senate republicans failed to hold this president accountable doesn’t change that fact. However, what it did do was to let the American people know and see just who puts party before country and now it will be up to them to not only hold the president accountable but also the republicans who were derelict in their duties.
you see, in a discussion you made an assertion so it is you who needs to justify their assertion. I do not have to reason against your assertion as you have not provided any specific examples of why your assertion in your opinion is correct. once you do that in a manner that invites debate, then you will almost certainly get a reasonable response.
You mean Legally protected info redacted.I'm Senator Rand Fucking Paul & I'm going to out this treasonous asshole of a nobody to make him suffer! I'll use this trial to make it happen! Fuck that guy!
What's the old saying ?
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it again? - Wooten
The Democrats may never have the time to do it again.
You mean redacted.[/QUOTE]Why is that name important to you? Tell us why it matters to you.
you must have hung with disreputable sorts it seems. I never did in my 22+ years of service. All a professional group.
We're sending more [troops] to Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia is paying us for it ... they're paying us. They've already deposited $1 billion in the bank."
We train our boys to be killing machines,
His arrogance and hubris are ridiculous. No one ever expected the Senate to convict. But they did expect the Republicans to declare the President to be above the law, for purely partisan reasons.They did do it right. Though the results were expected, just wait till November.
I've never seen you criticize Trump all the times he's called for the Democrats to be destroyed.On your way to destroying your opposition party. Sounds like a Democrats democracy to me.
I've seen no one say he should have been "arrested" regarding the impeachment proceedings, it's a political process, not a criminal prosecution. The whistleblower's complaint turned out to be very accurate, Trump was caught but of course as a trumper to you he is simply incapable of wrong, any wrong, any time. You've taken lying to yourself to a new level.
Rand Paul needs to be arrested.
Rand Paul made a scumbag move trying to impugn the proceedings and the CJ by using the question portion to identify the whistleblower, as it would both endanger the whistleblower and use the impeachment proceedings as the venue for that act.
So tell us why it wasn't a scumbag move.